Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee Headphones Discussions | Drop

Dec 29, 2017

DavestefIf I could afford it I'd probably get both just so I could compare. We already know the 6XX is great but there's much uncertainty about the 58X except a handful of reviews.

Dec 29, 2017

Dec 29, 2017

DavestefI am! My HD 650 works phenomenally well for most genres of music (in fact, you probably won't ever need anything else besides a 650 when paired with a good DAC). But, I guess I'm just collecting Sennheiser headphones at this point.

Dec 29, 2017

Dec 30, 2017

TekkamanRainI'm still debating. The 6XX now has a proven track record but the 58X is virtually untested. Plus it has a longer wait time. At almost $210 CAD for the 58X and then waiting 6 months to get them to see if they're even any good has me hesitant to pull the trigger.

Dec 30, 2017

Dec 30, 2017

Mark_MThat's true. The wait's long, and it's still rather expensive, too. Also, for the price of this, you'll be able to get a better DAC/Amp for your 6XX (provided that you don't have one already, of course!).

Dec 30, 2017

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Dec 30, 2017

TekkamanRainI don't have either one yet. I'm debating between the two. Right now I have the HD598s and a Micca Origen+ DAC/Amp.

Dec 30, 2017

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Dec 30, 2017

Mark_MOh, alright. I have a HD 598, and getting a 650 was a HUGE upgrade. It's just a much better headphone than the HD 598 in every way. If you have to choose between either, just get the 6XX, you won't regret it.

Dec 30, 2017

Dec 30, 2017

TekkamanRainHmm. Can I swap the headband padding for the style on the 58X? I think it's the same one on the HD600s with the four bumps. That one looks more comfortable to me.

Dec 30, 2017

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Dec 30, 2017

Mark_MApparently, you can! It will require some light modding, though (like in this vid).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbsP3QDJFLk
Although, I have to say, the headband on the HD650 is very comfortable. You probably wouldn't need to change it out once you try it out. In terms of comfort, the biggest issue with these headphones is the clamping force at the sides of your head. It'll feel uncomfortable (like a vice grip) until you've fully broken them in.

Dec 30, 2017

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Dec 30, 2017

TekkamanRainCool thanks. I'll check out that video later. I'm still deciding between the 58X and the 6XX. Largely based on price and that the 58X will take longer to ship.

Dec 30, 2017

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Davestef

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Dec 30, 2017

Mark_MGet both 👹

Dec 30, 2017

Dec 30, 2017

DavestefHonestly I'd love to but I don't have that kind of money.

Dec 30, 2017

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Dec 30, 2017

DavestefI ordered both to add to my collection of 600 series headphones. I currently have the HD600, 650, and 660 S, and I'm just waiting for the right pair of 580's to show up on Ebay. It hard to find ones in really good condition beyond the parts that can be replaced.

Dec 30, 2017

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Dec 30, 2017

OCBobYou seen the HD 565's? They're bloody brilliant.

Dec 30, 2017

Dec 30, 2017

dnalekawI would've never remembered that headphone by its designation, but after seeing the pictures I remember seeing it in some of the local shops (unless it was the HD 545, I really don't remember anything other than the general design). I purchased my first HD 600's after the 580's were out of production, but I had heard the HD 580's years before that (I just couldn't afford them at the time). I'll have to do some additional reading on the HD 565's.

Lately I've been running these guys on the balanced output of my new Jotunheim.

Dec 30, 2017

Dec 30, 2017

OCBobWhat a nice setup you have! My father handed down his 565's to me which were made in 1997. Not that old for Sennheiser headphones, but are ancient compared to my other pairs. They sound very much like the 600's with a bit more low-end, still punchier than the 650's though. Soundstage is also bigger than the two so a little detail is lost. All in all great headphones, settles nicely with gaming.

Dec 30, 2017

Dec 30, 2017

dnalekawThanks, it's on the dining room table because I was re-modeling the old home office. I'd imagine that there's something special about a pair of headphones passed down from one's father that also gives them a little something extra.

Dec 30, 2017

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Dec 30, 2017

OCBobOh yes, I am definitely consciously more careful of them as a result. Are you going to jump in withe the HD 58x?

Dec 30, 2017

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Dec 30, 2017

dnalekawI was #138. I'm also waiting on my HD6XX's.

Dec 30, 2017

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Dec 30, 2017

OCBobI joined #196 then cancelled, then #521 then cancelled, then finally kept it at #780. That ship date really put me off. I am too are waiting for my 6xx so that will keep me occupied during the meantime.

Dec 30, 2017

gcdude

Dec 31, 2017

OCBobI was #139. I thought I was on top of this drop. Enjoy!

Dec 31, 2017

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Dec 31, 2017

gcdudeYou Too!

Dec 31, 2017

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Its_Me_Jose

Jan 1, 2018

gcdudeHow did you find out your number?

Jan 1, 2018

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Jan 1, 2018

Its_Me_JoseI just looked at what is was right after I joined the drop. As far as I could tell, that was the number I joined at. I guess the first 500 people are supposed to have a serial # less than #550. Not that I think that matters. I just wanted to add these to my HD6xx line collection.

Jan 1, 2018

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Jan 1, 2018

OCBobMine are in excellent condition from when they were bought for me on my 16th birthday many years ago. Are they going for good money?

Jan 1, 2018

Jan 1, 2018

MusicFuelsYourSoulI'm currently bidding on a pair that's at $125. They look to be in good shape, and have new pads. I have my bidding set to go as high as $150. I'd consider going higher, but when you can't hear them or examine them, and there's no warranty, it becomes a lot of money to gamble with.

Jan 1, 2018

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Jan 2, 2018

OCBobThat is true. My Dad bought mine for for my 16th birthday. I was a passionate music lover then and more so now. I would struggle to sell, even though I know that the acoustics are perfect. Also well burned in LoL!! I am putting emotion before financial I feel, but my 580 cans set me on my direction of travel,
Mine are 17 years old. Excellent condition. New headband pad and ear pads in the last year. Also upgrade to the HD600 cable as it needed a new cable after all those years. Still have the original HD580 cable which works well, just needs a refresh.

Jan 2, 2018

Jan 2, 2018

OCBobThat is a lovely stack you have there even with the Jotunheim not included!
@OCBob How are you using them all?
I want to start having a feel of tubes and in the future maybe some tube rolling. I see you have a Little Dot MKII and Valhalla 2. I currently have a Jotunheim as well and am not sure on the best tube option. Love Schiit products (always makes me smile) or should I branch out?
Your advice would be really appreciated!
Cheers :)

Jan 2, 2018

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Jan 2, 2018

MusicFuelsYourSoulI had the Bifrost, Valhalla 2, Asgard 2 before I purchased the Jot last month. I used an A/B switch between the Bifrost and the 2 amps. I still drag out the Little Dot (my first tube amp) since it's such a great pairing with my 600's and 650's (Voskhod tubes, sometimes Mullards). With the Jot I really wanted to see what the whole fuss about balanced listening was. The impact on my 700's and the 650's is impressive. I didn't feel the change was as significant with the 600's and 660 S', but you can certainly hear it. The Jot also works great with all of my HD5xx series cans. The Little Dots are a great place to start with tubes, especially given the price and availability of great tubes. Compared to the sound of the Valhalla 2, the LD MK II is noticeably more "tubey". The ability to crank up the gain with the Little Dots is a great benefit as well. I've actually been using the Little Dot MK II off the Jot's single-ended outputs and you could make your ears bleed (I have the gain switches set at "5" and run the Jot at the 1:30 volume position. The noise floor on my LD is impressive as well as the channel separation. I purchased directly from Little Dot through LittleDot.net (which seems to be on maintenance today).

Jan 2, 2018

Jan 2, 2018

OCBobThanks for giving your advice and support. Much appreciated :)

Jan 2, 2018

Jan 7, 2018

MusicFuelsYourSoulIf you're interested, that pair of HD580's I was bidding on went for $286. My final bid was $170, and I was unwilling to go any higher. I actually ended up buying a pair of used Koss ESP-950 Electrostatics instead. I hope they're as nice as they look in the photos. I'm also really curious to see how they sound.

Jan 7, 2018

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Jan 13, 2018

DavestefThe 6xx are my favorite headphones but I still got these. The 58x will be for when I'm not at my desk with my big amp. I should be able to use these easier around the house.

Jan 13, 2018

Davestef

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Jan 13, 2018

JhuntWith a portable amp?

Jan 13, 2018

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Jhunt

Jan 13, 2018

DavestefI've got an old e10k that's easy enough to move around the house with my laptop for them. I think at 150ohm they'll still need some amping.

Jan 13, 2018

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Jan 14, 2018

OCBob @OCBob
Evening Mate.
Am interested if your Koss ESP-950 Electrostatics turned up? I am a 25 year music lover.... 12 month integration into beautiful, diverse place to be. Non stoppurchasing and ripping for my FLAC tastic music collection.
Many will know that time you put on your new Headphones.. Excites... High quality input no matter the source as such and just like that, addicted for life!!
Would be great if you can take the time here and there .Koss ESP-950 Electrostatics sound moat interesting?
Cheers

Jan 14, 2018

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Jan 14, 2018

MusicFuelsYourSoulThey did turn up, and they sound fantastic. I wouldn't call them "Endgame", but they're darn close. They have incredible mid-range, and I also like the highs and lows. The highs aren't sibilant unless the recording is poor (they're some of the most unforgiving cans I've used), and the bass can go deep though the volume of that bass will drop off quickly. The dynamics are the best I've ever heard in a headphone. They play great with all different genres of music, but they really excel with jazz, classical, singer/songwriter, adult contemporary, and classic rock. It's also been a long time since a pair of headphones had me checking the room to see where "that noise" came from. In my opinion, the look is good, the fit and finish are good, but the materials leave something to be desired. They're huge, so it's nice that the materials make them so light, but they just don't stand up to contemporary material standards. I was also happy that even though my pair was used they are in spectacular condition. I didn't even feel the need to replace the pads even though I'd bought a replacement set from Koss. I do notice an occasional whine in the left channel that comes and goes and is only audible at super low volume levels and during very quiet passages. I just got a pack of "C" batteries so I'll try running the energizer (amp) off battery power to see if it's something in my wiring, but my house is quite new and I've never had any electrical issues. If the problem persists I'll head over to Koss and have them help me (I live in the Milwaukee area). I've always had 5 star service from them. If you have any additional questions I'll do my best to answer.

Jan 14, 2018

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Jan 15, 2018

DavestefI ordered both. I figured I could just sell the one I like least. Sennheiser’s typically have a good resale value so I should be able to make my money back.

Jan 15, 2018

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Jan 15, 2018

Y0URaverageUSERDamn good idea there bud!

Jan 15, 2018

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