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JonasHeineman
5987
Feb 22, 2018
Hey everyone,
I first spoke with Tashi Bharucha about a collaboration at the USN Gathering (G9) in September of 2017. I was excited when he said he was interested - he’s a popular and talented designer who has become well-known for his exquisitely-crafted handmade custom knives.
My excitement only grew when we began talking about what kind of knife would be a good fit. Tashi said that he could not keep up with the demand from collectors for his custom Church model, and offered to let Massdrop produce a version of this popular design. The model’s name and skeletonized handles were inspired by the beautiful and intricate panes of stained glass windows adorning the many cathedrals in and around Paris, where Tashi makes his home. Taking a cue from this idea of light passing through a frame, and noting the angular gaps in the handle, we decided on “Prism” for our EDC-friendly production version.
Tashi also loves to cook, and the shape of this blade is derived from a chef’s knife. Because the blade’s edge sits a bit below the handle, it can be used for food prep when cutting on a board. Whereas Tashi’s $1500 custom knives might not see much daily use for most owners, at under $250 we hope these will see their fair share of picnics and other outdoor adventures!
When I asked Tashi, “It’s already a great knife - what could we do to make it better for our community?” he said that, while knife collectors liked the full-size custom Church, it was a bit large to be pocket-friendly for most people. Then, he said that he’d been working on a new style of joining the two handles together, by shaping the two sides to meet flush on the spine instead of being attached with standoffs and/or backspacers.
With these two improvements for the production version in mind, we focused on what was important to keep the same. Tashi was adamant that we keep the same steel - Damasteel’s ® RWL34 - because of the great finish that it offers, especially when it gets the hand-rubbed satin blade treatment that you see paired with these anodized and tumbled blue and bronze handles. Based on these parameters, we sent Tashi’s drawings to have them prototyped so we could review them ourselves and make necessary adjustments.
Based on feedback from community members who handled the prototypes pictured on the page, we’ve made a slight adjustment to the choil for the final production. The change was made to make sure that none of the blade’s edge was exposed near the open portion of the frame when the knife is closed. We tested this, and the only way that we could make contact was by purposefully jamming a very small finger through the gap in the spine, but we thought it was better to err on the side of caution. Tashi agreed, and was gracious enough to make the change - it’s pretty cool working with world-class designers who are still open to taking feedback from the community, and we’re grateful to both him and the folks who gave their input. As you can see from the photo before showing Old/New profiles, it’s a pretty small change.
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Last, a few administrative notes on this drop:
We’ll be closing at 10pm on Wednesday, February 28th and immediately reopening it to run through most of March. If you join in the first week, your card will be charged on February 28th, everyone who joins after will be charged when the drop ends. We hope this will help us to get a jump on production and make sure we hit our Estimated Ship Date.
The introductory price of $234.99 will only be available on this first pre-production launch. Future drops will be priced at $249.99. Thanks to those who are joining the first drop and making this possible!
Carry On - Jonas
Veda
30
Feb 23, 2018
JonasHeinemanWE Knive is the best choice you guys could've ever chosen especially for a knife this complex. I'll definitely join this one.
anonomous
558
Feb 23, 2018
Vedawe knives is not making this one. a better manufacturer called reate is.
mikowl
3
Feb 23, 2018
anonomousSshhhhhh
Nightcrawler113
2
Feb 23, 2018
JonasHeinemanThey really think highly of this knife. The price put it out of my reach. $249 for a knife made in China, I thought the idea was to bring down the price not drive it up..Wow..Just my 2 cents...
namhod
1991
Feb 23, 2018
Nightcrawler113You obviously aren't very familiar with mid range knives. This is a mid range price point. High end prices are disgusting.
Chinese quality is not what it used to be, some of it exceeds it's American counterparts.
anonomous
558
Feb 23, 2018
Nightcrawler113this knife would normally be $350ish. this is a huge deal. also reate is better than most USA manufacturers. you would know if you tried some. check out some knife shows.
Gcaudle91
19
Feb 23, 2018
Nightcrawler113@nightcrawler113 Do you understand how much Tashi’s customs go for ?
Jlhenry55
99
Feb 23, 2018
JonasHeinemanJonas, Have you guys looked into creating some kind of Brand logo you could put on these knives instead of spelling out massdrop? Seems like a lot of us really dont like all the writing on the blade and this would be a good compromise that would still let Massdrop "leave their mark" as it were. Something like just putting the capitol M with the underline in the same style as the current logo. This would be more in line with a makers mark that knife guys are used to seeing and it wouldn't look as billboardy.
anonomous
558
Feb 23, 2018
Jlhenry55no offense but if you don't like it, you can probably remove it by modification. you would likely send it to someone are follow a guide on hand satin, rock tumbling/stone washing, or etc (could def expire the warranty though, or at least the warranty for the blade itself). people have knives Modded all the time. some folks do a very bad job at it so be careful. I know a guy called "spade knife works" who does amazing mods and even more amazing sharpening.
else just don't buy it. there are plenty of good knives to choose from. MD isn't your only solution for good knives.
they thought long about the logo and even improved it since its first iteration on the falcon.
but yea maybe a single digit logo or design would be more fitting than the brand spelled out... but its all debatable and you can't and won't please everyone.
Fatboy4
25
Feb 24, 2018
Jlhenry55Totally agree. The billboarding is way over the top. Every enthusiast I know likes a clean or sterile blade. Consider Cold Steel's (some models I own and love) blade adornments. Just tacky. Do it Spyderco style; it's there but classy. This knife deserved better.
namhod
1991
Feb 24, 2018
Jlhenry55I always love the billboard discussion. You waving your knives around in public?
TrekRider
12
Feb 25, 2018
Fatboy4I agree...The MassDrop billboard is just U.G.L.Y..... The font...the word, etc...hmmm....I wonder if you and "polish it out on the hand-rubbed blade...? :-)
WiseGreyCrow
14
Feb 25, 2018
JonasHeinemanHi Jonas,
First of all, great knife design-- it's been quite a while since I've been this excited about a new knife. A couple quick questions for you though: (1) Since the first round of this drop will close on 2/28 and cards charged then, does that mean that this first group will likely receive their knives before the estimated ship date of July? Or will everything ship together regardless of when you get charged? And (2) Will the price on this go up to $249.99 on 2/28 or remain at $234.99 through the end of the full drop?
Much thanks in advance for the clarifications.
JonasHeineman
5987
Feb 26, 2018
WiseGreyCrowThanks, glad you like it!
1) No, the group's order will be produced, shipped, and fulfilled all together. 2) The introductory price will be the same for everyone who joins in this first pre-production order (Feb and Mar). The regular price will be in effect for future drops (after everyone who joins the pre-order has received theirs).
WiseGreyCrow
14
Feb 28, 2018
JonasHeinemanHi Jonas,
Thanks kindly for the quick reply. One more question: I know you can't advertise the manufacturer of this knife but will this information be shown on the warranty when I receive the knife? If not, whom do I contact for warranty issues?
Much thanks again.
JonasHeineman
5987
Feb 28, 2018
WiseGreyCrowAs with all Massdrop Made products, or anything that you purchase from the site, just submit a help ticket directly from the relevant order in the Transactions tab of your member profile: https://www.massdrop.com/transactions
Junyang
30
Mar 10, 2018
JonasHeinemanI guess no dice for APO? As i don't see that as an option. Still in the US postal system and cost flat rate. Just saying.
ponagathos
512
Aug 9, 2018
JunyangMaybe due to the paperwork? When I was selling on Amazon I hated having to go to the Post Office to fill out the extra forms for APO.
Gunnersmate2
1646
Sep 23, 2018
JonasHeinemanJonas, any word on doing a front flipper collaboration? I also would like to see a folder with super blue steel (spyderco exclusive)
T.willy
463
Nov 1, 2018
JonasHeinemanHey Jonas it's great to see you guys finally used one of your own Massdrop Made knives to billboard the Blades section. If you look back a few months ago you'll see I had asked about this very idea a few times. It just seemed like the obvious thing to do whenever you updated the that page. I guess I was right. lol 😆Hopefully in time there'll be a whole line of knives in the photo just like the old one but done with all Massdrop Made Models. 👍😎
Mithras3
11
Jul 25, 2019
JonasHeinemanAgain, i believe it is dishonest and intentionally deceiving to never offer the knife that is advertised or ever intending to offer.