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Omniseed
1972
Apr 18, 2018
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GregBenoYou've never held a knife from WE before, have you?
PS, other than Millit I don't know of any American company who will do collaboration work in the way this knife has been made. There just isn't a real US competitor to a company as free-ranging and skilled at production as WE.
ZT makes equal quality framelocks, but they don't do contract work and they are probably balls-out with their own models.
Spyderco doesn't really do framelocks or liner locks from their US factory, aside from the Military. That's a knife with fewer features, less finish work, and a higher pricetag than this one.
Benchmade does framelocks, but they're $225.
Which company would you prefer build these knives?
PS, other than Millit I don't know of any American company who will do collaboration work in the way this knife has been made. There just isn't a real US competitor to a company as free-ranging and skilled at production as WE.
ZT makes equal quality framelocks, but they don't do contract work and they are probably balls-out with their own models.
Spyderco doesn't really do framelocks or liner locks from their US factory, aside from the Military. That's a knife with fewer features, less finish work, and a higher pricetag than this one.
Benchmade does framelocks, but they're $225.
Which company would you prefer build these knives?
Omniseed
1972
Apr 19, 2018
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GregBenoThere was a collaboration knife with Millit, out of Idaho I think, and it looked great, but it was a very different knife than anything WE makes.
It was a much simpler design than this one, stainless liners instead of titanium, Spyderco-style adequate, utilitarian, and utterly bland flat G10 scales, a serviceable enough hollow grind, washers instead of bearings. It's basically a solid alternative to a Griptilian or the disco'd HK Axis.
It's a good knife and the only non-production knife I can think of that matches your apparent wish list. It's also not a good-looking knife in the way this one is.
The reaction you're getting is in response to months of people wandering into these drop discussions to do nothing more or less than complain that Chinese knife makers shouldn't get our business even though by any metric other than ease of warranty service they're strictly better than their US competition.
Who mostly won't consider doing limited projects like these Massdrop-produced knives anyway. And even if Massdrop does find a unicorn like Millit to do a US-built knife, the US manufacturer won't deliver the same level of refinement as WE offers.
You can get a decent US knife for under $150, but you're being unrealistic in your expectations here. This knife built by a US maker, any of them, would be well over two hundred dollars. If made to this standard it could easily come with a three hundred dollar sticker price, considering that WE's build quality is closer to midtech than production.
Also, watch that video. Terzuola clearly views this collaboration as something different than his other production ventures with Spyderco and CRKT. This is the flagship knife of a hypothetical Terzuola high end-midtech knife company. This is to Terzuola what the Sebenza is to Chris Reeve Knives. It's not his custom work, but it's unmistakably, archetypically Bob Terzuola.
If he had a production company this would be his only off-the-shelf offering for the first several years of business. The Spyderco collaborations were clearly Spyderco knives that were designed by Terzuola. The same is true of his CRKT knife. I think this project represents something more special to Terzuola than a simple design collaboration and accompanying royalties.
I think he views this as an opportunity to get one of *his* knives built to his standards in the hands of people who love his work but could never hope to commission or buy a knife he made himself.
It was a much simpler design than this one, stainless liners instead of titanium, Spyderco-style adequate, utilitarian, and utterly bland flat G10 scales, a serviceable enough hollow grind, washers instead of bearings. It's basically a solid alternative to a Griptilian or the disco'd HK Axis.
It's a good knife and the only non-production knife I can think of that matches your apparent wish list. It's also not a good-looking knife in the way this one is.
The reaction you're getting is in response to months of people wandering into these drop discussions to do nothing more or less than complain that Chinese knife makers shouldn't get our business even though by any metric other than ease of warranty service they're strictly better than their US competition.
Who mostly won't consider doing limited projects like these Massdrop-produced knives anyway. And even if Massdrop does find a unicorn like Millit to do a US-built knife, the US manufacturer won't deliver the same level of refinement as WE offers.
You can get a decent US knife for under $150, but you're being unrealistic in your expectations here. This knife built by a US maker, any of them, would be well over two hundred dollars. If made to this standard it could easily come with a three hundred dollar sticker price, considering that WE's build quality is closer to midtech than production.
Also, watch that video. Terzuola clearly views this collaboration as something different than his other production ventures with Spyderco and CRKT. This is the flagship knife of a hypothetical Terzuola high end-midtech knife company. This is to Terzuola what the Sebenza is to Chris Reeve Knives. It's not his custom work, but it's unmistakably, archetypically Bob Terzuola.
If he had a production company this would be his only off-the-shelf offering for the first several years of business. The Spyderco collaborations were clearly Spyderco knives that were designed by Terzuola. The same is true of his CRKT knife. I think this project represents something more special to Terzuola than a simple design collaboration and accompanying royalties.
I think he views this as an opportunity to get one of *his* knives built to his standards in the hands of people who love his work but could never hope to commission or buy a knife he made himself.
Lucidream
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Apr 20, 2018
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GregBenoDo not underestimate the quality of Chinese blades... I own many and they are very well made.
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