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2rms2
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Apr 21, 2018
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I can't figure out all the hate for the massdrop logo... The logo on this knife is even more subtle than some of their others. If you don't want a massdrop logo on your knife, don't buy a massdrop knife?
Apr 21, 2018
BARBARRIN
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Apr 21, 2018
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2rms2It's the contrast of that comic sans lookin font on an otherwise tasteful knife.
Also there's only two other common complaints to draw focus: Hating on a quality Chinese product, on a site that facilitates imports... I'm still buying, and I'm not unhappy it's from MD and WE, hell I'd take massdrop arced over the WE logo, it just doesn't fit as is.
And lefty clip, it's a limited first run, we clip's look good but I think this one's a first time, those contours and mounting... delicious. Hope they can accommodate you in the next run.
Find me a knife that looks this good, has nice steel, has a comfortable grip size and shape, g10 so I can reshape as I like, blade isn't compensating for or lacking anything, and 3 oz! No I want this knife, I am astounded this isn't sold out
Apr 21, 2018
Omniseed
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Apr 22, 2018
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BARBARRINThey use that stupid looking typeface on the prototypes, the production version will likely have a similar style as the knives made with Ferrum Forge. I like that logo, it's engraved well and it isn't too noticeable because of the negative space in the lettering.
Apr 22, 2018
BARBARRIN
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Apr 22, 2018
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OmniseedAhh gotcha, yeah that looks much better
Apr 22, 2018
Tigerman
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Apr 23, 2018
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2rms2It's not just whether or not massdrop puts their logo there - I think it's how they do it that people aren't liking. Look at how the pros do it:
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Those logos are Eric and Sal Glesser of Spyderco. See how they look more like the mark of a craftsman than the branding of a company? The spyderco logo itself, on the other side, also follows the same look, even though strictly speaking, it is company branding.
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I agree with you, that technically, massdrop can put whatever logo they want on their stuff, but I reckon they could do better at following the spirit of knife blade logo design.
Apr 23, 2018
2rms2
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Apr 23, 2018
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TigermanI can understand that, but if that IS their logo, what else should they put on there? I've seen people suggest just the M logo, but I think there's near zero brand recognition for that. I compare it to not buying a Benchmade because the butterfly on the blade looks kind of dumb. That may very well be, but that would be about the most ridiculous reason you could come up with to not buy a Benchmade.
Apr 23, 2018
Tigerman
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Apr 23, 2018
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2rms2I know what you mean. At times it sounds like the logo makes up 80% of people's criteria for whether to buy the knife. Here's my suggestion for a logo for the Massdrop Blades Division, which doesn't have a logo yet:
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Apr 23, 2018
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Apr 24, 2018
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2rms2honestly, i think it's mostly people's egos. it's like shopping the clearance rack -- we all do it, we all love it, but we hate to admit that we do it because we wish we could afford to buy things at their full asking price. massdrop is something like a clearance rack to many people, whether or not that is their actual business model; people don't want to advertise that they got something off the clearance rack. i feel a tinge of this myself, and i don't think i'm an outstanding individual in any particular dimension or direction. so if an average human like me feels that way, i'm sure there are others who do, too.
i'm still in for a tan g10, though. so there's that haha.
Apr 24, 2018
TeeRoll
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Apr 25, 2018
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TigermanLooks like a pair of tits...
Apr 25, 2018
Tigerman
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Apr 25, 2018
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TeeRollGood art always conjures up different images for everyone. It's evocative. :P I should make a cutting remark about dirty minds... but I'm the same, so, high five!!
Apr 25, 2018
BARBARRIN
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May 2, 2018
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Given we're average humans who haven't attained ego death, yeah I want the knife to look good.
I'm quite proud when I can thrift something, often it aligns with environmental concerns, and I'm a bit self conscious about throwing that out the window for a knife. I've got some second hand knives I'd be hard pressed to wear out anytime soon, but if I'm splurging on form and function it is at least something I'm going to carry daily. Splurging on a keyboard turned out to be a good choice, and I've been a long time lurking on the knife for me.
I started off lurking the Mech Keys side, so my view may indeed be off from the average, but I don't view Massdrop as a clearance rack at all. When it comes to common products Massdrop often starts a price war with competitors, it's really not what it's best at. I come here expecting some stuff I couldn't otherwise get, limited quantity imports and custom runs.
I think even Massdrop knows the logo doesn't help. Notice that the keyboards they are the sole manufacturer of don't include it AT ALL. The more expensive something is, the less overt the branding should be. 'Hey what is that gorgeous thing', 'It's from a limited run off Massdrop designed by Bob Terzuola who revolutionized what we expect from an EDC knife' is far more likely to get someone here than the logo.
Please consider using just the hollow M
May 2, 2018
A community member
May 2, 2018
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BARBARRINyou make some great points, sir -- massdrop does indeed offer a lot that you can't find elsewhere. but i do think a good amount of their stuff in the sections i browse can be found elsewhere, usually for a few or sometimes for many dollars more. those sorts of drops ade good for us as consumers, but i do think some see it as a clearance/deadstock situation or even as a too-good-to-be-true kind of thing. i think this is particularly strong in the knife world, where buyers are (overly, in my opinion) obsessed with country of manufacture and the illegitimate appropriation of original designs -- to some, a chinese-made terzuola will be a crap terzuola, whether or not it objectively is. prejudice runs deep among knife enthusiasts and egos run high... i'm guilty of all sorts of consumer sins... sorry, now i'm just reflecting...
May 2, 2018
BARBARRIN
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May 3, 2018
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Yeah they do sometimes have some real bargains, but aside from cornering the market on dead stock direct from the manufacturer I think it's gonna be hard for them to compete in the short term sale market. Probably those were their original intended focuses, but I'd expect predatory pricing to just get worse as they get bigger. Getting between Alibaba, Amazon and Walmart is a snowball's chance. Woot was successful enough to get bought out, I guess that's something.
And yeah, here we are with WE Knives, a company that makes remarkably original designs and has a good reputation for quality, and the prejudices stick. Local economy is cool and all, but call me when you're employee owned, real profit share, capped earnings and you're gonna have to make something I want. Let's say we bought more American knives, how much is going to increasing wages and how much is going to more automation and the owner's pockets? Globalism does a lot of the same, but at least people who really need it get employed. We started off lucky, how selfish are we that we're gonna keep it that way?
Not ranting at you, ranting at the world
May 3, 2018
Wayoftread
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May 4, 2018
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Can find most this stuff elsewhere and just as cheap if not cheaper. Yes this is where to buy dead stock. Kinda like overstock dot com.
May 4, 2018
Tigerman
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May 4, 2018
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WayoftreadPersonally, I think massdrop is a mixture. They do sell some lame stuff, putting very little effort into descriptions or anything, but they also sell some really unique, cutting edge stuff. Keyboards, knives and audio are the areas where I feel they contribute with passion. The massdrop staff who help develop those products are let down by their association with the crappy side of massdrop, in my opinion.
May 4, 2018
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