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sehafoc
79
Feb 22, 2016
I own one of these -- and it actually has a terrible problem with registering keys. It effectively acts like you have keys that get stuck. The manufacturer keeps saying it's due to having some wireless signalling source near the keyboard. It's pretty lame to have a *WIRED* keyboard susceptible to interference. After removing everything from my desk except my mouse, I gave up on it. Hope other people have a better experience than I did
wibbles
114
Feb 22, 2016
sehafocWhile I haven't had major problems, I've noticed a few minor key issues. Unless I'm WAY off base, it's because they're using a 3.5mm audio connector between the two halves and the cable that comes with it is, sadly, quite cheap. Edit: As in not properly shielded.
I replaced mine with a better cable, and the problem seems to be much less pronounced. YMMV. I can *maybe* tell it's got a few finicky key issues...but nothing as bad as, say, the Amazon reviews beating on it. I honestly can't tell sometimes what MIGHT be a problem and what might be me not striking the keys correctly. I have a fairly light touch, sometimes, and a weird three-finger-per-hand method of touch typing.
sehafoc
79
Feb 22, 2016
wibblesI've replaced the bridge cable with a nice grade audio spiral cable but didn't have any luck with that either. Also; I tried replacing the USB cable with a nice shielded model. After seeing a few people online with the "repeating key" problem, and with the manufacturer response stating it was an interference issue + the fact that only thing I had near the device was a wireless mouse...
Don't get me wrong, I love the keyboard layout, and the key actuation/feel. I actually still have it and have been considering lining my keyboard tray with foil or an electromagnetically opaque shield, but everytime I say something like that I feel a little ripped off. This is a 200$ keyboard, if interference is a problem the thing should be shielded...
If you have a pointer on the cable you used that was helpful, I'd gladly check it out.
wibbles
114
Feb 22, 2016
sehafocFamiliar with Blackberry chirp? I could always tell a phone call was about to come in - seconds before the screen even lit up - because my speakers would do a little staccato rhythm as the Blackberry started to receive a call. Only ever happened with Blackberry phones.
Anecdote aside, what I'm getting at is that as far as audio cables go I really *do* think even a wireless mouse, or your WiFi signal to your router, someone microwaving a burrito next door, or a bazillion other things, might be enough to screw with the signal. Not the best choice of joining cables, to be sure. I also agree that the price tag should be more insurance against this kind of thing. I'm also not 100% that my own typing style isn't part of the problem. I'm half tempted to say that the issue has been worse depending on what application I'm typing in, but that sounds fairly ridiculous for a low level input device.
Regardless, I use this cable: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LVT4EW4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage FWIW, even the USB cable for the keyboard doesn't run behind my case where my WiFi antenna are.
sehafoc
79
Feb 22, 2016
wibblesBah! I bought the same cable XD. it does look way nicer than the original, but didn't help my problem too much. I did just switch to a wired mouse.... maybe I'll try it again
Thanks for trying to help though :)
I mainly mentioned this as a warning for other Massdroppers. If you check reviews around people other than I have this problem. I wasn't willing to reconfigure my whole work station to accommodate a keyboard (and that's assuming their support team was accurate regarding the source of the problem and it just doesn't have a defect or something).
gcb0
56
Mar 3, 2016
sehafocwhen microsoft naturals disappeared from the market, and before i got a lot of barely used ones from my employer, i was scrambling to search for my next keyboard... i remember seeing how everything on this board was perfect, except that it was USB. at the time, usb means lousy no-key-rollover (got it? heh) and ghosting.
it is shocking that they still have the exact same problems they had what? a decade ago?
and it is not a cheap product. a little update would have been not only welcome but required at this point.
when my 3 last PS/2 naturals die, i will probably go full ergodox or similar.
sehafoc
79
Mar 3, 2016
gcb0It's nice to see someone else who actually looks for PS/2 :) It really seems like USB was a big step back for keyboards. The KRO is a perfect examples of this. It seems like newer keyboards are working some magic since the last time I looked at the interface variances.
Regarding the keyboard situation... I'm in the same boat :( I game so I was looking forward to the Matias (specifically for the "supposed" NKRO). It does do okay in that regard -- it registered everything I could foreseeably press at once but it isn't *true* NKRO (still had a cap in the 20-30 key range IIRC). I didn't notice any ghosts in my tests either. If it wasn't for the whole repeating key thing I could've really stood behind this board.
My PS/2 Natural died a year ago, so I've been on the hunt. I'm using a MS sculpt ergonomic for work currently and it's surprisingly okay...The "chiklet" scissor switches have a shorter throw and feel a little better than the rubber domes, but they're not as nice as mechanical switches still. Still need something to work for programming by day and slaying orcs by night for home tho. I guess it's the ergodox next, but the thumb cluster scares me a bit haha
Edit: Just retested the "NKRO" and ghosting. Ghosting seems minimal (you have to try to find it with a ton of keys), and seems like I can mostly only get 10-12 keys of rollover, but the "U" key stuck during the tests :/
hyperlinked
304
Mar 4, 2016
sehafocRemove the U key cap and blow compressed air around the base of the switch while pressing it a few times. See if that stops the repeating issue. I had a repeating T that was due to dust.
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