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Matrix Quattro II DAC/Amp

Matrix Quattro II DAC/Amp

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Is this actually balanced or just 2 x XLR outputs?
Just received mine today; I tested it on two PCs: a) my laptop w/hub, where it replaced a Topping D50 + Schiit magni3. The DAC is definitely an improvement here, the whole sound felt wider and more expansive. I really enjoyed it. This was solely through my headphones b) my desktop straight to USB, where it replaces a Schiit Jotunheim w/ DAC. Here I have mixed feelings. I listen to music through powered speakers (Adam A3Xs), so the DAC + preamp out impact was expected to be small. Mostly I wanted something smaller which didn't run as hot as the Joti, and has a remote. The Quattro II does all of this. On this PC I barely ever use my headphones (HD6XXs)
But.
The Joti did two things better: * I could connect the headphones at the same time as the speakers, which meant I didn't need to keep them unplugged to hear music. Useful to burn-in headphones if that's your thing, or even just for convenience * The volume control was a lot less gradual and WAY easier to use
The Quattro's volume control is way to grainy, and much tougher to adjust. I feel it's overkill in this respect. It does run cooler though.
Another issue... THAT one is a big problem: my unit lets out some noise through the headphones. They sound electronic in nature. I've had this happen before and it eventually went away; I'm not sure what I did to help it. Weirdly, this did not happen on my laptop, but does happen on the PC. I will try different USB outputs, or maybe the spare Schiit Wyrd I have. Oh and I will try to use install the driver too... which I have not! UPDATE: as expected installing the driver had no effect here... We'll see. I think this may become my office setup actually, as I'm still waiting for the SMSL SU-8 and the HPA-3 which will become my home balanced setup and, I hope, fix these issues.
pott
Weird, the noise went away on its own.
This is a VERY good DAC. I've not tried it with headphones yet.
I have the 2C Classic and it's powerful as $%^& I did change the opamp. Well built amps for sure and will for burson opamps if you take plastic cover off them.
This vs R2R-11?
I can't tell from the description, but is this the version without DSD?
Chipper
look the specs, DSD feature included.
First time looking at a true external DAC, love clear, crystal sound and need a replacement for my internal Sound Card (Asus Xonar Essence STX). Pairing with Senn 650s. This looks like an amazing deal for the price and has the I/O I need (RCA, USB, 1/4 headphone) but am slightly worried about the volume knob issue reports and reports with a dull sounding headphone amp. Debating if I should jump at this or not. or jump at the airist audio R-2R/THXAAA 789 drops
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Hi Rycan, the R-2R drop has not shipped yet, but I ended up cancelling my order lol. I was second guessing I really needed a new DAC, so I can't tell you for sure. I doubt there's a lot of dacs out there that will be a big improvement over the EL Dac...
verifonix
The reason I bought the EL DAC is the two Topping drops i joined didn't ship for well over a month after their 2 month shipping delay. Caused me to look elsewhere and I'm glad I did. Very clean output. Very easy to use
My DAC don't recogonize 44.1/24 PCM while it works for others. Anyone experiencing the same?
Well... I received my unit two days ago... here are some impressions:
1. The DAC itself sounds good. I have no complaints about the sound at all. I tried it with HD598 and HD660S. I feel like the amplifier is just enough to power the HD660S, not sure it can power something like HD600 or HD650...
2. It was shipped with a US power cord. So all you non-US guys should know that you'll probably need to buy a UK/EU or whatever power cord you need when it arrives.
3. Now to the problem... If you look at the manual, you'll see that there is a nice setup mode allowing to manipulate a variety of settings. You are supposed to move between the settings by rotating the volume nob, and alter a given setting by simply pressing the volume nob. Simple and elegant solution, I must say... Two days of use, and this thing somehow already got messed-up. Sometimes I just gently touch the volume nob, and it responds as if I pressed it. As a result, settings get altered while I flip between them. It's very hard to operate the unit like that. I don't know if it's a firmware or hardware problem, but it's very annoying. If anyone is interested, I can easily record a video with my phone and share it...
badheinz1985
I also received mine. Did you install the software. I tried to install, somehow my win10 gives me an error message, saying "The driver DLL required to access the device is missing". Although I did not install the driver, I can still use it. Will it make any difference? THanks.
lumohomo
Initially, I did not bother installing the software since I did not need it. I'm just using the optical output of my sound card. I just wondered if it will work better via USB and here are the findings: 1. It only supports sampling rates up to 192kHz with 24-bit depth. Not that I really care, but it's not the 384kHz/32bit they talked about... 2. I believe I heard the familiar and annoying USB-popping when I tried USB. But it could be my imagination, because the volume knob failure drove me nuts at the moment.
Does anyone else have an issue with this dac clipping on certain low frequencies. I've tried the bass shaker test at the following site (https://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php) with many other dacs (Centrance DACport HD, Teac UD-301, Audio Technica AD-HA60, xDuoo TA-01) and never had a problem, but for some reason this one clips. It happens on the headphone outs and line outs. Is anyone else experiencing this or do I have a faulty dac?
Mine got shipped! Expecting
lumohomo
me too!! exciting
This one or / Denon pma50 🤔
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hello bro ur Wrong .. the 50 ohm its for speakers not headphone the headphone jack for denon pma 50 can drive all the headphone 10 - 600 ohm with 3 level Gain 👌🏻 I already have the denon pma50 its great , but i wanna have more idea by Comparison with other device .
GreatMagician
my senn 598s sounded so bad with the pma-50 that I measured the output impedance impedance of the headphone jack myself. the symptoms were bloated, uncontrolled bass and recessed mids and high end. Turned nice cans into Beats specials.
its not a difficult measurement to make. you just need a dummy load and either a low frequency sine wave and DMM or any audio sinewave and an oscilloscope.
the measurement calculation is explained here, in the technical section, after the discussion of the problems high output impedance can bring.
https://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-amp-impedance.html
Looks a better deal the Topping 7s. Better DAC and better AMP. Am I missing something?
HIFI778
Yes!
Do we know what service is going to be used for shipping outside of the USA? (specifically Canada).
I'm contemplating shipping it to the border and driving to pick it up instead and taking a chance with duties at the border. Costs about the same amount
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So. I finally made-up my mind and joined the drop. Now the question is... will the HPA-3B be available any time soon?
HELP!!!! This Dac or the Topping D50?
Compare this against xDuoo TA-01 DAC/Amp ? both drops are available now and I can't decide which one to go for.
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Thanks for the advise! :D
Will look out for TA-10 too.
Yea TA-01 is powerful, I am actually selling mine on headfi with a Mullard tube. I have the TA-10 and that is so sweet It's nicer than my NFB and M-Stage to my ears.
"the volume control is very easy and intuitive to use." --Oh thank god for that! I've had it with those complicated volume knobs--you know, the kind where if you turn it one way it's gets louder, but if you turn it the other way--like, it doesn't! I hate those kind...
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It gets funnier and funnier !
I miss the old days, when a volume knob did just what it was supposed to--disturb the neighbors.
Originally had an issue getting the unit to work, but it was user error. I didn't set the unit voltage to 120/115V, as it ships default at 230V. Set to 230V but plugged into 120V, the unit still powers up, but won't recognize the inputs. When set to the proper voltage, the unit works beautifully. So don't be a bonehead like me ...
Arthur/Matrix replied within a few minutes. So bravo to them.
Open it back up!
I would like to buy the Quattro especially to listen my HD6XX connected to my CocktailAudio X12 or to my notebook. Also to improve the internal dac of the CocktailAudio X12. It would be a good choice for you?
So, Matrix Quattro 2 vs Grace M9XX - which is better at $500??
JayDay
Quattro2 wins, no contest.
Would this be an upgrade to my Grace m903? In terms of functionality I'd lose the unbalanced and XLR balanced ins but gain 2 digital inputs. I'd also gain DSD playback. What I'm concerned about is how would it do with my HD600.
chichaz
That's a $1700 msrp DAC that is often compared with the Benchmark DAC series... I'm gonna venture to say "side grade" at best... why not throw that $500 at a dedicated headphone amp to go with your DAC. Unless you have an itch for DSD or need the input trade off I don't really see the point in swapping out.
ElectronicVices
Yeah I thought I might try to sell the Grace and make a small profit. I don't want to do that at the detriment of the sound though. Thanks for talking sense into me. I'll just wait until something comes along that's truly comparable and an upgrade in terms of I/O.
Just to confirm we are including the DSD option with these units.
This is a really impressive design built around the well-proven ES9018 chip. The implementation is very well-thought-out from the FPGA to the OpAmps selected to the capacitors used in the Linear Power Supply. Matrix has been in business for a long time and has built a very good reputation for quality. We stand behind our products and we try to offer the best customer service.
If anyone has any questions let me know and I'll do my best to respond here on MassDrop.
Arthur (Matrix Audio USA)
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ArthurPower
Any plans to bring X-Sabre Pro here?
g_v_l
Not at this point in time. :(
Another thing, is the DSD playback option included? Normally it is a separate $149 purchase from Matrix. $749.95 unit price from Matrix-USA includes it, if no DSD I can see how they arrived at the drop price.
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Source?
Too bad I have too many DACs already. Any rumors if MQA upgrade might be provided in the future?
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There is also the FPGA chip, it has some processing power too.
g_v_l
alright, hope you can success.
I'm disappointed this isn't getting any traction - I can't justify buying it right now but would be all over it in like...a month or so. Sigh. Hopefully this drops again someday.
Hi, I'm currently using a Teac UD-301 as my DAC into an HPA-3B and LSR 30X. I know the built in headphone amp is a big upgrade over the Teac's, but does anyone have any idea how this would compare as a DAC and a preamp? Would it be a worthwhile or noticeable upgrade? There's nowhere locally I can test it out so if anyone has any input it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
db42
Save those money for a speaker upgrade instead. teac is a fine preamp/dac.
jrjr2
I'm quite happy with the Teac, however I'm just wondering if this will bring out any more detail in my music since it seems to measure better than the UD-301 as far as distortion (0.0015% vs 0.0003% ) and signal to noise ratio (105 db vs 120db). Also wondering how they compare in soundstage, imaging, and tonality. Not sure how much of a difference it will make on the speakers, but maybe it'll make an impact on my headphones.
Now this is a very good drop, for $499 the Quattro II is a steal as a high end DAC.
http://www.soundperfectionreviews.com/2015/10/review-matrix-quattro-ii-dac-feature.html

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