Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Lune Retrograde Watch Discussions | Drop

Mar 10, 2017

59 jewels? I suspect they would have put them where they're not needed. And seriously, who would part with 3 grand via an internet purchase?

Mar 10, 2017

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Mar 10, 2017

sechtawI would venture a guess...Lots of satisfied people, I being one among them.

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Mar 10, 2017

larrygWell, the following is on the Maurice Lacroix website:
ARE MAURICE LACROIX WATCHES SOLD OVER THE INTERNET? We sell our Maurice Lacroix products only through our network of selected retail partners. We strongly advise you to exercise caution and always to make sure that you are dealing with an authorised Maurice Lacroix retailer. Purchasing an Maurice Lacroix watch from an unauthorised party is at the buyer's sole risk, particularly in the case of counterfeit, substandard or stolen products.

Mar 10, 2017

Mar 10, 2017

sechtawI understand that the manufacturer is obligated to have this disclaimer. Having purchased several high end pieces over the internet, I am fully aware of misrepresentations and risk. There are several steps one can take to, at least, minimize that risk. The same is true, of course, for grey market purchases. If you know which sites are credible (of which there are many), you can save quite substantial amounts. Having said all that, buying from an Authorized Dealer (AD), will alleviate all anxiety you might have.

Mar 10, 2017

Mar 10, 2017

larrygMost (note I said most and not all) watches sold on the grey market are factory seconds - defects which may or may not be seen by the naked eye. One large grey market seller on the internet confirmed this with me. It all gets down to "buyer beware". Is your watch legit? Is your watch free of flaws and defects? I guess you'll never really know unless you purchased it from an authorized dealer.

Mar 10, 2017

Mar 10, 2017

sechtawI agree. As with every purchase (especially high end), you must be an educated consumer. Do your research.

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Mar 10, 2017

"Distribution network" equals grey market. Maurice Lacroix offers a 24 month warranty. Massdrop is only giving 12 months.

Mar 10, 2017

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Mar 10, 2017

larrygObviously, you aren't an educated consumer.

Mar 10, 2017

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SkipPe

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Mar 10, 2017

sechtawI know a few grey dealers. They buy most of their watches from AD's who cannot move their products (one guy literally flew to Greece a half a dozen times buying Rolexes during the crisis there). I will say that some brands (Longines and Federick Constant, for example) do move factory seconds through channels like Amazon, but many watch companies would rather destroy a watch than let it out the back door imperfect. AD's cannot heavily discount so they sell at thin margins to grey market dealers who can move the watches more easily. Many Rolex AD's do this, as well as others. Volume dealers get the good watches anyone can sell.
The only companies' watches where I would be suspect are brands that are part of the Swatch Group. For some reason they do everything differently. I would never buy any Swatch group branded watch off of Amazon because they often are seconds or refurbs. That said, for the more old fashioned brands who live by their quality, you will be fine going grey market. I would especially point out Rolex, Piaget and JLC. They could never abide the idea of one of their products not being perfect.

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Mar 10, 2017

sechtawNo reason to be nasty. I'm merely giving my opinion and sharing my extensive experience with others. You, sir, are obviously free tom disagree.

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Mar 10, 2017

larrygYou, my friend were nasty with your ".....educated consumer. Do your research."

Mar 10, 2017

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dholik8503

Mar 10, 2017

sechtawHop on over to eBay Motors---my neighbor bought a car 🚗 using the site, and the purchase was much more than $3 grand. 😊

Mar 10, 2017

Mar 10, 2017

dholik8503My comment was in reference to this particular item being sold on MD. I'm well aware that people around the globe are parting with much more than 3 grand on the internet - a good number of them have more money than sense.

Mar 10, 2017

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WillVautrain

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Mar 10, 2017

sechtawIt's an in-house movement, I don't think they've added extra jewels where they're not needed. My guess is the retrograde displays require jewels on top of what would be normal for a watch like this.

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Mar 10, 2017

WillVautrainLot's of other in-house movements that have a retrograde and moonphase don't require anywhere near the number of jewels. Many manufacturers have a "mine's bigger than yours" mentally when it comes to jewelling watches. They think that consumers - you and me - are going to think it's a better watch because it has more jewels. I wonder if they've put jewels in the lugs that support the spring bars. Other's have done it.

Mar 10, 2017

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WillVautrain

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Mar 10, 2017

sechtawThe jewels are definitely in the movement. I'm sure they've added jewels where some other manufacturers didn't think they were necessary, but there aren't that many other retrograde moon phase power reserve autos, really.

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Mar 10, 2017

WillVautrainYou checked, did you?

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WillVautrain

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Mar 10, 2017

sechtawChecked the locations of the jewels? I have to qualify, unless Maurice Lacroix is lying, the jewels are all in the movement. They list the caliber itself as containing 59 jewels. Not the watch, the caliber.

Mar 10, 2017

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Mar 11, 2017

sechtawAhahaha you're trying so, so hard. It's kind of adorable.

Mar 11, 2017

Mar 11, 2017

Trying hard to do what?

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dholik8503

Mar 11, 2017

sechtawFight. So far, you've argued about the number of jewels, the warranty, AD versus gray market, $3k purchases,.....whatever....At the end of the day, we all will decide to pull the trigger on the drop or not. In a post below, I asked the MD admin to share all these concerns with Maurice Lacroix. I am interested in ML's explanations about the jewels used, a low beat versus high beat movement explanation, etc. I am not here to fight with you or anyone else. This is a community, and we learn from each other, I hope. Best regards.

Mar 11, 2017

Mar 11, 2017

dholik8503Well, if you think that's "kind of adorable" (your words), then you're a freak. Go and put some big boy pants on and annoy someone else.

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dholik8503

Mar 11, 2017

sechtawYou are replying to the wrong person.

Mar 11, 2017

iStor

Mar 11, 2017

sechtaw3 dollars or 3 thousand your coverage is the same. If you using a US credit card you have zero risk. Call your card issuer to verify.

Mar 11, 2017

Massed

Mar 11, 2017

sechtawSo quick to take offense. Why don't your step away from the keyboard.

Mar 11, 2017