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mCable Upscaling HDMI Cable With 4K UHD Processing

mCable Upscaling HDMI Cable With 4K UHD Processing

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hmm saw this on Linus tech tips.. they seem to work on anime 480p, haven't tried my self though
Don't believe the HYPE about this product. it doesn't make one bit of difference on your picture. I've tried it on a 1080p and 4k screen. NO Difference. There advertisement is BS!
darrellnv
Darrellnv, did you purchase the most recent mCable Cinema or Gaming Edition or an older version? Also please share what source device and content you use. We stand behind our product and love what we do - please contact our customer support right away so we can determine the issue and make it right.
Would this work between an AppleTV and a TV set? And if so where do you plug the USB cable into? I assume the USB cable is for supplying power to the cable electronics?
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Are you saying that the product featured here is not a genuine Marseille product? 🤔
glennac
No - we manufactured this product, but it is one of our older products which is being sold by an an unauthorized seller. The product could be reconditioned or never used; we don't know who this reseller is or how they obtained this older generation product.
As a result, and to ensure you get our warranty so you are buying risk-free, we recommend purchasing the products from us directly either on our website or Amazon. And while we are very proud of our oder products, the newest ones keep up with all the changes in source devices to ensure they work effectively and deliver a superior image. I hope this helps.
This is right now $14.99 with free shipping on buydig
Wow, what a horrible experience with this product. It was defective right out of the box, passing no signal at all, and mCable stopped communicating with me when they realized the product was no good. I can post the email string to prove it. I'd pass on this one.....
Ed240
Hi Ed240,
I'm from Marseille, maker of the mCable. Please let me know what site you purchased the product from and confirm which mCable product was purchased. If your product is our latest version and was purchased from our official Amazon site or at Marseilleinc.com, you can return it without a problem. We take strong pride and love what we do - if there is a problem we will make it right.
The mTeam
mTeam
I bought it on Massdrop, and returned it to them when mCable ceased any effort to help me.
Hi, I'm from Marseille, the maker of mCable. To address your resolution question, you don't have to mess around with the system resolutions to use the cable. However, if you want the best performance, set your content device to output at 720p and it will upscale to 1080p and provide superior enhancement of your image vs. having 1080p content as the source output. If you have a 4K TV, 1080p content will upscale to near-native 4K.
To address the prior question of the 3 generations of mCables, we recommend purchasing the most recent mCable Gaming or Cinema editions. We are very proud of our legacy generations; the difference comes from the updated computer inside the cable, which addresses the on-going changes and upgrades the game and console manufacturers make. Like an iPhone, the older versions are great even though they don't support the latest offerings.
As for the difference between our mCable Gaming & Cinema Editions, the Gaming also upscales and enhances movie/TV/streaming content, and the Cinema will do the same to games. However, each has their own special requirements and algorithms in the computer designed to maximize each separate and unique experience. For instance, our advanced anti-aliasing is specially designed to meet the needs of gaming content, which has unique needs in having realistic edges and elimination of shimmering effects.
Finally, we are constantly looking at new product development and are working on bringing some exciting new products to the market in 2019. We love what we do and want to make sure you fully enjoy your mCable - let me know if you have additional questions.
The mTeam
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mTeam
hi, not sure if this is the right place for this, but I can't get any audio when I use it with my Nintendo Switch. Everything is plugging in correctly and the image looks sharper to me. But why no audio? :(
Do I have to mess around with system resolutions to use this cable? If I play a lower resolution video fullscreen on my display's native 1080p resolution, will it apply any sharpening/processing?
Is this the Cinema version or the Gaming version.... Would like the Gaming one.....
Did anyone else get an oxidized cable hdmi cable like mine? How would I go about getting an exchange if someone has experienced this as well?
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does this support 2560x1440 144hz ??
So, all the confusion was driving me (and possibly others) nuts. I decided to settle things for myself at least, and just ordered one for the sake of working out what this drop is really for:
What arrived was definitively what mCable classifies as their "Legacy" - or first generation - cable (pictured exactly as you see in the images for the drop). Not the latest, 3rd gen gaming/cinema cables. Not the 2nd gen "Ultra" (gold sheath) cable. (Worth noting though that the marketing on the back of the box states, "...our third generation processing technology." So who knows how much random shenanigans is afoot?)
I'm trying to get my hands on a few different components to test the cable, but might not have them in-hand for another week or so. Once I do, I'll try to post some comparison stills and testing method to help out. (Maybe that belongs in the new "Reviews" section?)
shorkorde
could be they software updated their older cables.....who knows.... would be nice if the company would explain... at this price alot of people would try it either way......their top end cables are nice but...the price..........ouch...
would love a display port version for my monitors... with the ability to turn gaming/cin mode on/off...
UnaSalusVictus
Agreed on the gaming/cinema mode switch, but (at least according to the company) it sounds like they are using 2 different processors between the 2 cables. So if they made a cable with both processors, but it just cost twice as much as the 3rd gen cables do now...(so what, ~$250 USD?) I don't think that helps much. (Which is my nice way of saying, "I absolutely will not buy a cable at that price.")
In truth, I'd prefer they spend less time refining the visual quality (it's already pretty good), and more time figuring out how to reduce the overall cost.
As for display port: by the time you hit the output of the cable, the processing should already be done, right? In theory then, there isn't anything stopping you from tacking on an adapter to DisplayPort, DVI, or whatever. It's an interesting thought. If I can find some kind of adapter laying around in one of my many cable bins of shame, I'll try testing this out.
[Edit: in spite of my comment below, it looks like this drop is - and was - for the 1st gen mCable only. Since originally posting this comment both myself and others have purchased this on subsequent drops - receiving the 1st gen cable. So, MD has the photos and description correct, but appears to have the serial number(s) wrong.]
As of today (Apr. 24, 2018), this particular drop is for the 2nd Gen. mCable: the mCable Ultra.
@TheBowArrow Looks like I owe you an apology for correcting you on the version of this cable (should have checked more thoroughly - my mistake).
Finally had a derp-moment and realized I could just Google the model number from Massdrop's order page to clean up this confusion. *In spite* of the fact that every image on the drop page is of the 1st gen. "Legacy" mCable, all 3 cable length options and their respective product numbers point to the 2nd gen. mCable Ultra.
[At least, according to Google and Rakuten. Links follow.] https://www.rakuten.com/shop/beach-camera/product/MARS70200/ https://www.rakuten.com/shop/beach-camera/product/MARS70124/ https://www.rakuten.com/shop/buydig/product/MARS70125/
Apologies for any confusion my original "corrections" caused. (Now, watch them ship the legacy cable...)
shorkorde
I just got my cable and it is 1st gen =(. Is there a reason why we are getting different products.
superstarscrub
I made a later comment that I went ahead and bought one on the last drop as well - also received 1st gen. I'm assuming this means that TheBowArrow looked at the serial number (as I did) to try and verify which gen of cable this drop is for.
At this point, I'm pretty confident saying this drop is only for 1st gen cables, and MD probably has the wrong serial number listed.
Not sure if it's any consolation since the cable isn't 2nd gen, but it seems like there isn't any randomness to who is receiving what. It (currently) appears that everyone gets 1st gen.
Would this be good for playing Xbox one backwards compatible games?
Great cable and it does work. I watch a lot of anime and it's Its most noticable for me with upscalling 720p to 1080p. The colour correction and image sharpening is great. I game with this cable just fine and there is no noticable lag so unless your competitive there should be no need to get the 1ms "gaming" variant. Linus Tech Tips does a review of these mCables and it's really well done. Definitely recommended.
Whats the difference between this and the gaming cable?
deatonis
This cable is the mCable Ultra. It is the older version, which seems to be no longer advertised on their website.
TheBowArrow
One important note: this actually isn't the mCable Ultra either. That was 2nd gen (Ultra), and this is actually the 1st (now called "Legacy"). The Ultra is actually a gold/bronze color cap with a silver band around it. And for others' reference, the 3rd gen was split into 2 categories: Cinema and Gaming.
[Quick Edit: I'd nearly forgotten, but at least one person stated that they definitely received the mCable Ultra - despite the fact that the one pictured in the drop is the mCable Legacy. Not having received one myself, I can't say which you'd actually wind up with; so your mileage may vary.]
That took a bit of digging, but there's actually a video from the mCable CEO that helped to outline the differences on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q--IUlJHLSQ&t=2s
Looking for clarity because I'm by no means a pro: if my monitor is UHD and connected to my PC with a displayport cable, would that be superior to buying and using one of these instead?
Most games have resolution options up and beyond my monitor so that's not an issue, but I notice that a lot of my media is now woefully under-detailed. I guess I'm asking if anyone knows if this would be an upgrade or a downgrade when viewing HD/bluray when the alternative is displayport? Would it have a downgrading effect on games which can display at UHD resolutions?
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So the mCable will make it better, it will do the same thing as the displayport but it will increase certain details making it better. They both technically upscale but only one will make it better.
Okay, so this is slightly confusing (just a function of how the cable works), but bear with. Check out the Linus Tech Tips video linked lower in this discussion board to verify what I'm saying. Basically, if you're going from your computer via DisplayPort over to a UHD monitor, and you have your operating system set at the display's native resolution (3440x1440) - this cable will actually do nothing.
This cable looks for 480p/720p/1080p sources to upscale, right? Well, your computer is actually sending a 1440p signal from your GPU - which is what the cable sees. So it does nothing.
To get it to kick in, you'd actually have to change your native display resolution to match your content (example: setting the display to 720p before opening a 720p video). Then, the cable will see 720p and upscale to 1080p. (Important note: I realize the cable states it is 4k capable; but note in the description that it also says 480p/720p goes up to 1080. 1080p gets upscaled to 4k. As this is the older version of the cable, I'm going to conservatively assume this means that 720p *won't* get the 4k treatment.) --- --- --- --- --- Not 100% I'm answering your question, so I'll just make a second note here: by going through all of this, what you're really trying to do is remove the upscaler from your media player of choice (software implementation, and may not be as good as this cable...or might be just as good - you'd have to check for yourself), and make this cable do the upscaling instead (hardware implementation, and might fare better with some forms of edge sharpening or artifact/noise reduction).
Hope that helps.
Hello everyone! I know this is quite late, but I needed some help before I buy this- I watched Linus and I'm a bit confused; I have a 4k monitor; but my laptop can only output 4k @30Hz. I have some 1080p content; if I'm using this cable- do I need to set my resolution to 1080p; or do I leave it at 4k when playing my 1080p movies? Also, my movies are of a low bitrate, will this cable improve the visual experience?
Edit- my local Fry's has this listed for $21; nevermind, not buying this.
JsDart
It does not matter what the resolution is set to.
Anyone tried this out on the Nintendo Switch?
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Sort of. A lot of videos I had seen recommended reducing the sharpness of your TV and letting the mcable do the work. My TV sharpness was set to 60 (out of 100), and I reduced it to 50. It seemed to look better after I did that. Also, make sure to turn OFF any upscaling features on your TV.
TheBowArrow
Also, there seems to be no noticeable input lag. I was able to play (and win (: ) multiple Rocket League competitive matches. I also battled a few mini-bosses in Breath of the Wild and everything seemed normal. If there was any input lag, it wasn't enough to impact gameplay.
So if I have a 2k monitor and connect my ps4 with this, will it upscale to 2k or will it not do anything unless it's 4k? Can I also plug it to a HDMI switch no problem?
Redington
It will upscale to 4k and the monitor will down sample to 2k, resulting in better quality than plain 1080p. LTT has a video in which this cable impressively works pretty damn well. For $30 it is pretty appealing
Redington
First off, @vanmmyers was very close, but according to the maker of the mCables, the onboard chip actually detects the screen resolution - so it won't go up to 4K and back down to 2K, but just straight to 2K; and this is supposed to work better than jumping back and forth (all of this is allegedly...I have no way to confirm this).
As for the HDMI switch, I can give you a definitely-maybe. I don't know exactly what mumbo-jumbo is going on inside the cable, but it's very possible that if your switch isn't HDCP compliant that the source will either A. not upscale or B. not display at all. Your mileage may vary from one HDMI switch to the next.
Is this the Gaming or Cinema version? Either way it seems to cheap as those MSRP @ $120-$150
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Actually, this is the mCable Ultra. I received mine today and that's what the packaging said.
TheBowArrow
Interesting. That doesn't seem consistent with the images/descriptions here, but thanks for sharing the info. I'm all in favor of Massdrop managing to wrangle a better deal for newer versions and it certainly would make this a better buy.
That being the case though, dear MD: please update the photos and description to clarify which version of the product this actually is.
Just to let anyone who wants this or the gaming edition for their PSVR it won’t work with the second generation hmd, Only the first. I don’t know why, but I bought one and the screen stayed black I sent it back they tested it and others and their conclusion was it was only a problem with 2nd gen hmd.
No option for the gaming version?
Does nothing besides 720p to 1080p for a 4k@30hz TV :-(
LMAO, I've been scratching my head trying to figure out what is shipping to me, I got an alert from FedEx on Monday and today I got a notice from Massdrop.
is there a difference between this and gaming version
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gabrielvis
is this even the cinema version? Either way the Cinema need a 1080p24 signal otherwise it wont upscale. Linus did a decent video on the Cinema and Gaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjJzibFTaqA
gabrielvis
This is the second generation cable (the mCable Ultra). There is neither a Cinema nor a Gaming version of this cable. As far as I can tell, there is no input lag.
Is there anyway to contact the vendor through Massdrop to get the SKU or model number? Read through all of the comments up until this point and no one seems to know what exactly this and the only consensus is that it's not the newly available models.
yugo138
It is the second generation cable (mCable Ultra).
OHHHH so that's how crime TV shows are like ENHANCE and that individual pixel suddenly turns into a 4K image of a license plate
Dynamite339
It all makes sense now! Through the powa of maaaaagic!
No shopping to UK? Why? 😢
The no less than 5 different links to the Linus Tech Tips video about the latest Gaming/Cinema versions of these cables would imply that people aren't paying a ton of attention to these comments, but in usual self-vindication-on-internet fashion; I'll try my best to add to the chatter.
What you probably need to know:
1. Not snake oil (at least, not fully). Real, actively powered (via USB) digital signal processing with a processing chip, seemingly decent AA algorithms, and whatnot. True 4k? Nah. But about as good as you could manage with nice video editing software (and in realtime).
2. How good? Your mileage may vary. Important to note diminishing returns from 480p/720p/1080p sources with lower-res sources seeming to get the biggest improvements. Please watch the Linus video linked many, many times below in these comments for an important source setup caveat. (As a friendly aside: remember that when you're viewing your 4k screen from 6-8ft away, the math would support that 99% probably can't see the 1080p upscale anyway...let the tomatoes be thrown.)
3. Which one is this? Oldest one. Basically, there are the new Gaming/Cinema editions, before that was the Ultra, and the original (this one) is now referred to as the Legacy. That was a pain to figure out, but this short video by the Marseille CEO seems to support this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q--IUlJHLSQ (you can skip to about 1:25 in when he grabs the different boxes).
Verdict? Neat idea, and I certainly have the low-res library of games/movies to support such a cable; but I'll probably hold for a price reduction on either/both of the newer cables. If for no other reason than Linus Tech Tips showed side-by-side comparisons of those to a native source; and I haven't seen the improvements of this one. Given that the results of Linus' review are impressive but still relatively niche - if this one performs worse, my "eyes-to-screen-size-to-distance" ratio probably means I won't see any improvement.


Hope that helps.
shorkorde
Thanks! Do you have any idea what the latency of this cable is? I bought it for gaming not knowing exactly which model it is.
TheBowArrow
Sorry, I don't know the latency for this specific cable. However, in tests done from LTT and PC Perspective, both noted that the newer cables introduced no more latency than any other regular HDMI cable tested (so, in the normal ~25-30ms range).
I know the upscaling tech has changed from this generation up to the newest cables, but if I had to guess; I'd wager the actual cable has changed little if at all. But again, I don't actually have one to test it myself so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt.
You'll have to let me know if it's noticeable or not when you get yours. Now I'm curious, haha.
Would not waste my money on this. All you need is an HDMI 2.0 cable, which you can get twice as long as this for 1/2 the price. You don't need anything else, but the rest is all marketing bs set up to make you think you need it. You don't.
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Ah, I think we had a bit of a disconnect and are agreeing with one another (this happens to me a lot, so it's probably my fault); but this is a great point to bring up to others looking at the cable, so I'll try to clarify here:
The actual HDMI cable is nothing special. In fact, it's pretty old, and if you have a newer spec'd 4K HDR TV (such as yourself) it's entirely possible that the cable won't even have the throughput to support all the different modes on the TV (for example: a 4K@60Hz with HDR source on a player/TV combo that supports all of this).
In a case such as this? The cable will either under-perform a cheaper cable with better throughput OR will provide exactly the same image. It can only be equal or less than, quality-wise. Never better. Period. (Looking at my previous post, I may have worded that badly and added some confusion here. If so, I apologize.) And exactly like you said: if you have a 1080p TV? This won't give you 4K or even a "like-4K" experience. It'll be capped at 1080p, and very well may not even kick in at all.
So the cable is nothing of note. The thing you're paying for is the microprocessor attached to this cable. It's an upscaler that is designed to take the place of the upscaler that may be in your source (Blu-ray/game system/etc.) or TV set. **but** it only works on lower quality stuff! This is why the cable has the caveat that you need to run your lower resolution source natively.
If you pop a DVD (480p) into your Blu-ray player, and it upscales to 1080p or 4K before sending the signal along to your TV? This cable will do very little (if it sees a 4K source, it'll do nothing; and if your 480p/720p source has already been upscaled to 1080p, this cable tacking on additional upscaling to 4K could in fact make things look worse with artifacts and over-sharpening - since you're basically doing this to the source twice in a row). Alternately, if you have a newer TV that already carries a nice upscaling processor (rare, but becoming more frequent nowadays), you will once again see very little benefit (what your TV does and what this cable does may provide near-identical benefit).
This cable is for people who have lower quality (480p/720p/etc.) sources (or gaming hardware! more on that in just a second), and a TV that doesn't handle upscaling all that well (for example: older upscalers that would look at a 480p signal and just keep duplicating pixels or stretching/distorting the image until it fills the screen). In these cases, the cable's onboard chip will do that lifting for you and bypass the potentially less effective work done by your TV.
So yes, in the case you're referring to with already feeding in nice sources to your TV? This cable will not work any wonders, and you are definitely better off just buying good cabling for less money. But for lower quality sources (say, PS3 games capped at 720p), I do think the gaming edition cable did a great job with adding the right amounts of anti-aliasing and sharpening to the image to provide a better looking image across a 4K display. (Please note: I'm basing that off of the Linus Tech Tips review, not personal experience; and that cable *is not* this cable.)
Last note is that I mentioned hardware - and this is more for the PC gamer crowd. For those with modest gaming hardware, but a nice TV/Monitor in the 1080p/4K range of resolution; they may find that they often have to drop quality settings (resolution and effects) just to get a game running at a respectable frame rate. At that point, things start to look unimpressive on their otherwise impressive display.
A cable such as this might take those lower resolution sources and make them more visually pleasing since it will add in those upscaling tricks like anti-aliasing (which is, traditionally, one of the first things a lot of gamers try shutting off to regain a bit of performance). But again, this only works if the computer is running at the game's native resolution (so if you're running your game at 1366x768, but have your desktop set to 1080p with a 1080p monitor? The cable will once again do nothing. Your desktop will also need to be set to 1366x768 before the cable's AA and sharpening kick in).
Is this as good as having the hardware to play games at your display's native 1080p/1440p/2160p resolution? No way. But it would probably still be visually perceived as better than just tacking that 720p-ish source into your high-res display without any anti-aliasing at all.
That's a whole lot of writing, but hopefully clears up some confusion for a few people still looking to buy. This is definitely a, "for some, but not others," kind of item; and as I stated before: I'm actually steering clear of this one (but may eventually buy the gaming edition for some of my older consoles and/or cinema edition for my DVDs). Just trying to make sure others have the info they might need to make their decision.
shorkorde
I agree. I got the new samsung 8000 series. It says "240", but realistically it's only 120hz. Anyways, I found 4k@60hz by Amazon Basics for 6 bucks for 6 feet, or $7 for 10 feet. They have a bunch of different sizes like 15,25. 25 is I think like $11. Unless I'm missing something that seems to be a better choice.