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randre03
4
Dec 24, 2016
Hi all, received mine and put it together. I got the Matias switches and the lightcycle key caps. The key caps fit SO tightly, that when I needed to remove to switch some keys around according to my config, some of the keys broke (the insert on the underside of the key completely separated from the key cap itself and remained lodged in the switch) or I ended up ripping the switch apart. Suggest you really think through your config before you install the key caps. Not sure if the issue exists on the MX-style keys.
One other thing, be sure to install the feet before you add the key caps otherwise you'll find you need to uninstall the key caps to install them and you further expose yourself to this issue.
I do like the keyboard but disappointed about this issue (and lucky I had some extra switches lying around to fix the ones that ripped apart).
shadowdude777
101
Dec 26, 2016
randre03This is how the Alps-mount that Matias chose for their switches just works, unfortunately. It's way too tight and has been known to break when pulling off caps.
randre03I'm sorry to hear about that. Matias stems are a tight fit and when pulled hard can come apart or even snap the keycap stem into the switch.
One thing I found that helps with this is to wiggle the keycap back and forth with your pullet while lightly pulling up. This tends to let you pull the keycaps out properly.
EDIT: Per @WhisperingWindsOfShit " I did do an experiment on one cap, where I applied a thin, even coat of Super Lube to the stem of the cap, and the corresponding area inside the switch stem. I suspect that this did help, as that was the ONLY cap I was able to get off without damaging either the cap or the switch, but that could have just been luck and it still required an uncomfortable amount of force to remove it. Not recommending you do this, as I am unsure if there may be negative consequences for doing so, but if I had to do again I would probably go ahead and try lubing them all "
I'll get some samples in the office to test out as well.
randre03+1 My experience exactly. You do NOT want to have to try to remove the Lightcycle caps from Matias stems. You WILL break caps. I ended up breaking the stem off of two caps; luckily for me this set comes with plenty of other optional caps that could be used in their place. I tried Yanbo's suggestion of wiggling a bit, but that just resulted in the stem of the cap shearing off more quickly. Before installing any caps, make sure your stabilizers are in correctly, test all your switches, make sure you remembered to install the feet and installed all screws that hold the PCB to the case, and make sure you decide on your layout 100%. Then test your switches again, because you will cry if you get the caps on and a switch is faulty and you can't get to it because you cant remove the caps to open up the case.
I did do an experiment on one cap, where I applied a thin, even coat of Super Lube to the stem of the cap, and the corresponding area inside the switch stem. I suspect that this did help, as that was the ONLY cap I was able to get off without damaging either the cap or the switch, but that could have just been luck and it still required an uncomfortable amount of force to remove it. Not recommending you do this, as I am unsure if there may be negative consequences for doing so, but if I had to do again I would probably go ahead and try lubing them all.
Overall very happy with the quality of the kit, Matias stems are just a PITA.
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Stitchpunk
31
Jan 5, 2017
WhisperingWindsOfShitI can't find any instruction on where/how to install those little rubber feet! Can you help me out with some direction? Do they go between the plate and PCB?
StitchpunkPretty sure they are just meant to go in the small indentations on the front edge of the underside of the case to protect your desk. Guess you could use 2 more instead of the cone feet if you did not want the case to be angled.
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