Montblanc Timewalker Automatic Watch Discussions | Drop

Sep 18, 2018

ClerkpalmerSo when looking at watches 5 main factors define the price: The movement, the case material, dial, the fit/finish/polishing, and the brand/exclusivity.
This movement can be found in $600 Swatch group watches, Swatch makes the ETA movements. When compared to a $600 (street price not MSRP) Hamilton Intramatic this watch doesn't excel in any of the above factors in a way to warrant this price difference.

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Clerkpalmer

Sep 18, 2018

KethInteresting for sure. I feel like this is still a bit overpriced. At least compared to what 1500 will get me in the wus forums. Not apples to apples but I think its relevant.

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Sep 18, 2018

ClerkpalmerYou're absolutely correct, this watch is over priced for what you can get from other grey market retailers (no factory warranty).

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Sep 19, 2018

amjo70You say 3000m is bulletproof.
pray, tell me, what would you rate one of those oil-filled divers?
”nuclear bomb resistant?” ;)

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anthonyosborn70

Sep 25, 2018

SirHelixHaha. Maybe.

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amjo70

Sep 26, 2018

SirHelixclose

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Sep 27, 2018

ClerkpalmerHey man with that much you could get all Seiko’s “Legendary SARBs” haha (035, 03, 017, maybe even the old 065)
Edit: and I’m talking about new lol

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Sep 27, 2018

SirHelixI mean, I have a new in box SARY089, #149/1000 and even it's going for $800 or less at this point.

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Sep 28, 2018

KethHow much did it cost you in the first place...?

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Sep 28, 2018

SirHelixIt was on $408 shipped from Japan. Really a shame that 38mm watches are just too small for my wrist. Would have preferred the SPB075J1, but just not in my price range.

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Sep 28, 2018

Kethwow

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Sep 28, 2018

Keth38 is awesome for me. That’s too bad It doesn’t work for you. Some awesome Seikos in that size range.

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Sep 29, 2018

SirHelixYeah, 40mm without the crown is as small as I enjoy. I have a 45mm Alpina, and a 46mm Oris Aquis small seconds...the Aquis wears big.

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Sep 29, 2018

KethI just saw in some post on your profile that you’ve got an 8 inch wrist. Now that makes a lot of sense.
...have you ever tried on one of Invicta’s 50mm++ dive watches [abominations]? You seem like their target market. ;)

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Sep 29, 2018

SirHelixNo, no..The Aquis is already a bit larger than I'd like. My current grail is a new in box Black Bay Bronze...but I can't justify the cost.

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Sep 29, 2018

KethI can say those bronze black bays do look very nice.

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Sep 29, 2018

SirHelixIf I could sell my Alpina and Oris for $800 or more each, and that Seiko for $800, I might take the plunge. The Alpina is no longer available, and the Aquis is always in demand...but they're bigger than what most people want.
https://www.jomashop.com/media/catalog/product/a/l/alpina-racing-level-5-automatic-black-dial-black-leather-mens-watch-al535ab5ar26.jpg
https://www.oris.ch/data/21381_01%20743%207673%204159-07%204%2026%2034eb_horizontale.png

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Sep 30, 2018

KethAre you familiar with Reddit's r/Watchexchange forum? You might try your luck there. I know they really like Seikos over there.

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Aleskb

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Dec 1, 2018

amjo70On a 3 hander, 25 jewels is no better than 21. In terms of parts exposed to friction, 21 largely covers all that's needed and 4 additional are more decorative than functional.

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Aleskb

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Dec 1, 2018

anthonyosborn70This and that have nothing to do with it. WR and toughness are totally different things. Drop your Invicta and an Oris diver 65 from the same height in example, and nothing says the Invicta will resist the drop better, despite the Oris being 10 ATM only. Same if you test a 20 ATM Damasko and any 100 ATM rated watch in stainless steel, chances are the Damasko will better resist the drop. WR is only about gaskets and screw-down crowns to make it resistent to leaks. Watch makers don't put thick WR gaskets in dress watches as they need to keep the case slim. And the absence of screw down is to make it more practical on a watch that's not designed to go in the swimming pool. So WR makes a watch tougher only in the sense it will sustain more humidity and water. The rest of toughness comes from overall engineering.

Slprwrx13

Dec 4, 2018

SirHelixI've got a SARB065. I'd hardly call it legendary. More like, pedestrian...

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Dec 4, 2018

Slprwrx13Hmm maybe Cocktail Time isnt as cool anymore. I remember it was really something a few years ago.

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Slprwrx13

Dec 4, 2018

SirHelixI like my cocktail and I still think it’s cool. But the movement, which is supposed to be superior to what they put in the Presage, is garbage. Way over rated.