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Romulux
66
Sep 30, 2016
Lol this thing looks horrendous. Price points aside, just look at it... wow.
Yagyu
3
Oct 1, 2016
Romuluxhell no this is so sexy
Romulux
66
Oct 1, 2016
YagyuIt looks like a failed helmet design from a Blizzard game.
stashcat
5
Oct 1, 2016
RomuluxBeauty is in the eye of the beholder. To me this is a work of art.
Romulux
66
Oct 1, 2016
stashcatYeah, I definitely agree. And that's fine, everyone has different tastes. It's just interesting that the whole "gaming" style for a lot of these companies that make high end components is almost always the same. Red and black, with some crazy shapes and angles and lights thrown in. It all looks mostly the same to me, and it's okay, but this case is just something else. I'm sure there are people who love it, but a PC case is something where the importance of functionality should be placed over form. This might be a piece of art, but to me, as a PC builder and gamer, it just looks way off.
The PSU is in the bottom part of the case, so if the PSU dies and you can't get it out of there to replace it you may be screwed. PSUs should be replaced as a preventative measure well before other components because if they fail they can destroy your much more expensive parts. No PSU upgradability and only one PCI-E slot means SLI is out of the picture, so there's no easy GPU upgrade there. Video cards are getting bigger and bigger, so it's likely that you won't be able to fit a larger card in there even if you wanted to upgrade that way anyway. One 256 GB SSD is not enough for a serious gamer, so you're most likely going to have buy external storage. They don't even mention how the CPU is cooled, which is a big issue for me. An improperly cooled CPU, in a gaming PC where the CPU is likely to take a heavy load often, could live a much shorter life than it's supposed to, especially if you're recording or streaming as well. Cooling in general looks to be off. Nice big fans on the GPU but they're 75% blocked, so the most important and expensive part in a gaming PC isn't being cooled properly, limiting its potential speed and life. No exhaust fan in the back so you're relying on the front fan(s?) to push air hard enough to cool all your internals, which is never a good idea in a rig that's meant to play high end games that will push your components to their limits regularly. And you can't upgrade GPU fans, so enjoy hearing those whirr right out the side of the case as they're trying to keep up with the heat.
Weigh your options with the rest of the PC world who builds their rig from scratch. I'm able to push my parts further and can upgrade my PC however I want because I took the time and care to choose the right case and components, meaning just off the bat I'm spending less money over time. My PC is near silent while my components are all properly cooled and will likely last past their life expectancy. If you've never built one yourself and are apprehensive, I definitely understand, but keep in mind that I've been building PCs for myself and my family for the last 15 years and I still have to ask for help on the internet when I want to build a new one because the game is constantly changing. If you know what you want in a PC (quiet? what games at what settings? streaming? editing? mediabox?) there are tons of people who are more than happy to help you with projects like this, they're all over any hardware forum. People can help you through the parts picking process and will be happy for you when you get it all put together. The amount of satisfaction in booting up your first PC that you built yourself is greater than any joy you'd get from setting up this thing.
Everyone's PC says something about them, and this, to me, says that you have too much invested in something that won't last you long enough. If you enjoy this PC for its case you may consider looking at other cases, there are plenty that look equally as bad but have more functionality. The case is literally limiting the potential life of this PC and the components in it.
HubbaMaBubba
0
Oct 2, 2016
RomuluxYou're reaching a bit. MSI wouldn't put a bomb of a PSU, you can't SLI 1070s anyways, and it's a locked 6700 it won't get too hot.
Romulux
66
Oct 2, 2016
HubbaMaBubbaTrue that I may be reaching in that I didn't know you can't SLI a 1070, but the rest of my points still stand. Fundamentally, a video card should never have its fans blocked like that. It's just poor form. They could've made the cutout fit the fans perfectly, but they didn't, in the name of aesthetic. Like I said, function should take priority over form. The rest of the case looks to have poor airflow as well, so how will the other components be affected? Nobody knows till they've had it for a while, but the point is that the case can be done better in every way. My point of mentioning the weird PSU is that it's an extra liability and limits any real upgrades. Every component will fail eventually. A PSU does not have to be a "bomb" to fail and destroy other components. The PSU is the weakest link in many pre-built systems, and this one is literally built into the bottom of this case. Is it proprietary? Are you going to be able to replace it with something else? These are the things that should be brought up. Not whether it's a bomb or not, but how easily can you replace it in the event of its inevitable failure?
techwiz
235
Oct 2, 2016
RomuluxI have no idea who told you guys that you can't SLI a 1070... maybe you can't in this machine but you can definitely do 2-way SLI. That being said, you can always replace the 1070 with some next generation card in the future and apparently MSI makes an Aegis with a 600W PSU so you can probably find an upgrade or replacement on ebay at some point or something.
HubbaMaBubba
0
Oct 2, 2016
RomuluxI'm not saying I would buy it, but MSI knows what they're doing. The PSU should last a long time and if it doesn't send the machine in for warranty. Someone buying a prebuilt isn't going to be able to diagnose a PSU issue anyways.
HubbaMaBubba
0
Oct 2, 2016
techwizI guess I got confused with the 1060. SLI 1070s would be dumb anyways.
Romulux
66
Oct 2, 2016
HubbaMaBubbaYou're still missing the point. It's a 1 year warranty. Most of these parts on their own should last 3-5 years. That means you have basically no support for this thing unless it fails within the first year. Almost all my parts bought seperately have 3+ year warranties each.
You're basically recommending someone run this thing run into the ground via component failure. It makes more sense to me, and a lot of people spending $1k+ on a gaming PC, to just drop another 40-60 dollars on a PSU after 2 years as preventative maintenance. Can you do that with this? Is the base of the case sold somewhere?
HubbaMaBubba
0
Oct 2, 2016
RomuluxYou wouldn't have to replace your PSU so often if you didn't buy 40-60 dollar crap.
Romulux
66
Oct 2, 2016
HubbaMaBubbaYou're just wrong here, and you're now showing your true lack of knowledge by assuming inexpensive PSUs are always crap, and assuming that I myself own a crap PSU. Two years is not "often" for a PSU replacement. I'm talking about preventative maintenance here. How long do you expect a PC to last? ~5 years is the typical life of a gaming PC. You can make it last longer by upgrading and/or replacing parts as they fail, but that's pretty average. That's one PSU replacement over the course of the PC's life. Replacing the PSU after two years isn't uncommon, it's one of the most critical parts to ensuring the safety of the rest of your components and it's one of the cheapest to replace. So many people overspend on a PSU for no reason. It makes more sense to spend less and replace it than it does to drop twice the price thinking you're safe.
My PSU certainly isn't crap, it's 80 plus gold rated, has tons of great ratings on Amazon and Newegg, supplies power to all my parts efficiently, and has great reviews on multiple sites. http://www.anandtech.com/show/5698/rosewill-capstone-450w-and-650w-80plus-gold http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=250
Now what can you, or anyone, tell me about the PSU in this PC?
Thermolink
1
Oct 2, 2016
RomuluxIt's 350w.
HubbaMaBubba
0
Oct 2, 2016
RomuluxI didn't think anyone would feel the need to replace a PSU every two years unless they were knowingly buying crap. High-end PSUs often have ~8 year warranties and some companies will even replace any damaged components should the PSU harm anything which is unlikely.