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I think you are forgetting about the AMD 295 (which still destroys the titan x) and the new Radeon pro duo which is close to 2x titan X. If you are crazy enough to think that the 1080 can beat 2xGPU cards then you have drank way too much koolaid and should see a doctor.
Honestly this card is around the performance of the titan, which is good especially for the price. BUT still gets destroyed buy a few other cards and that is not including Crossfire/SLI configurations. The titan X is only about 10% slower than the 1080 stock, less if you overclock it. A lot of the extra FPS that you see is actually from the software upgrades allowing the card to handle heavier work loads better.
But the real question you should be asking is if it is software, why can't they apply it to the older gen cards. The answer, money. Which sadly is always the answer when it comes to Nvidia. They are now charging you even for the SLI bridge which use to come free with most motherboards that supported it.
But what you said is a little confusing. AMD IS trying to win back the market share but are doing so buy playing to the mid market. The 1080 is for enthusiast gamers, which doesn't make up even 10% of the entire computer industry. Even less when you subtract the AMD fanboys. So of course AMD WILL sell more 480/470/460 than Nvidia does 1080/1070. They are getting contracts with dell/hp/lenovo/etc to have their cards in everything from basic laptops to off the shelf gaming PCs. So your idea there is a little strange because you think (or it makes you think, somehow) that nVidia is immune to normal everyday business practices. Lowering their margin of profit to be more competitive.
Until the cards actually come out and we can hack them apart to see the true cost of production on the card. Will we know IF all the people who are buying it now are getting ripped off. Which is what my first comment was about, not insulting the card outright but questioning its hardware. Nvidia is well known for not really updating tech but just packing more on (or less in cases like the 980ti). The 1080's RAM for example, GDDR5/X its not NEW its just MORE and a little faster.
Also you seem to be misreading my comments so I will break it out. Also you jump around a lot and its hard to follow.
I don't know why you go off on the RAM tangent, I was saying the RAM is everywhere so it shouldn't cost that much and you seem to agree with me. My point was GDDR5/x is much less expensive because it is mass produced. When HBM/2 is new, and for $600+ dollar card that is a "Next Gen" card I would expect it to have "next gen" tech. (which I believe Nvidia promised when first talking about pascal, but then never delivered on. #JustNvidiaThings) But many of the improvements of the card are not just that of the GPU but also the software. The VR driver improvements that they have made allows the 1080 to do about 1/3 (or more) less work than the titan to render the same image in VR. But as a informed buyer you really should be asking the question of, "Why can't you use that same software on the titanX or 980ti?"
The 10% is a guess on my part (this is an internet comment section not a thesis paper, calm down) but if you honestly calculate all the computers in the world and think how many of them are used for gaming and you think it is more that 15% you are CRAZY. I mean ALL computers. The company I work for has 50,000+ employees and each person has at least one computer, sometimes even a laptop as well. Now multiply that by all the companies like that IN THE WORLD. That alone would make the gaming market seem like a drop in a bucket and that is not including all the individuals that buy PCs for various reasons other than gaming. A large chunk of the gaming market is still tied to XBOX/PS/Nintendo which I am not including because those are consoles not PCs.
The "enthusiast" and "entry-level" words that I am using are regularly used terms. They have lots of meanings, that's how English works in case you didn't know already. Marketing uses them, economists use them, designers use them. I am not being sucked into marketing ploys, you are just assuming that I am and making yourself look stupid.
What I am using the term for is that of an economists point of view and again you are reading my comment and not actually comprehending it... From an economy stand point only an "Enthusiast" would pay 600+ for a video card. For a marketing team "Enthusiast" would be for judging the level of performance of the card. In a group of builders, an overclocker would be an "Entusiast." The way you used it was even some what valid which surprised me, That you were an "Enthusiast" of your builds.
See, same word, different meanings. You're just being stupid. :D
My point about RAM is that it is a constant in the computing world. If it was a tangent topic, it was your tangent lol. The real-world difference in performance doesn't come from the RAM (when all competitors are using the same RAM); it comes from the GPU that is writing to this RAM. For example, most cars run on unleaded gasoline, but do you question why a Porsche costs more than a Honda? Didn't think so. This is because it is the ENGINE, not the gasoline, that is provided this difference in value (among many other things, but for simplicity sake...)
I reluctantly agree that NVIDIA COULD have introduced a new gen. of memory to this generation of cards. But why do you think they would ever do this? By your own words, their price is already too high for what they provide. So your answer is to increase production costs by using superior components? (This will really only raise the consumer price and perpetuate your butthurted-ness) The way I see it, when you're at the top of your industry (like NVIDIA in this context), why play your whole hand all at once? Keep an Ace or two up your sleeve, right? They can continue releasing GDDR5-based cards until AMD makes the change and NVIDIA can simply follow suit if it turns our worthwhile for them (I have a feeling R&D of both companies is YEARS ahead of current consumer products, so maybe don't focus so much on the "What if's" and "Why not's", the future may just surprise you)
So back to the original post; yes NVIDIA's GPU is more valuable than AMD's; and yes up to $400 more. (5 generations and counting of this being the case) It's not any newer or extra RAM driving the price up; it's NVIDIA's IP in the form of a more advanced GPU core architecture. AMD's next arch. is right around the corner, if I'm not mistaken; maybe you can take apart the cards like you're claiming and see where all the value is going. I think this is a huge waste of time, I don't buy something to figure out what it's worth, I already know what it's worth (to me), the price I pay is the value I perceive in my products.
"You just have not been around as long as I have. There is so much you should learn young pattawon." Well seeing as how you know nothing about me, save what you could allude or assume through a few sentences, believe what you want. I'm relatively young, so there's a good chance this is true. Nonetheless, a Jedi does not speak in absolutes. Maybe you are Sith then? I'd rather be a scruffy nerf herder than your "pattawon". The one thing I know for certain is that you have plenty of learning left to do as well. If you think you've done all your learning, the first new thing to learn is that you haven't, yet (or ever). You will even learn something on the day you die.
"The 10% is a guess on my part (this is an internet comment section not a thesis paper, calm down)" - actually, you calm down lol. Or show me where anyone said it was a thesis paper? The point here is that you made an assertion over the market share of the "enthusiast" level, one nobody in the world can state as fact, because no one has the expertise to do so.
"A large chunk of the gaming market is still tied to XBOX/PS/Nintendo which I am not including because those are consoles not PCs." sweeping generalization again, receipts or sources?? "The "enthusiast" and "entry-level" words that I am using are regularly used terms. They have lots of meanings, that's how English works in case you didn't know already. " Thanks...I know. They are still marketing buzz words and still working way too well on you (IMO).
"You're just being stupid. :D" LOL, whatever gets you through the day, you've been around for SO VERY LONG after all. You are just playing semantics to bully an e-stranger on the points you raised yourself (and fairly ineffectively from my perspective). But hey, I think you're pretty stupid too. Cheers! Thank you for noting that I jump around, please refer to your point about this not being a thesis :D
400 is not a fair price for that gpu. Their margin is over 20%, probably around 30%. Stop being a sheep and question that.
I'm no sheep lol. Or let's assume I am, now you told me not to be; so now I am not. Pheww, that was easy. Stop calling people names on the internet, tough guy. I know it makes you feel better when you've made an arse of yourself online; but do better; be less...sheepish.