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So I request a return, Nick sends me an email saying "Hi there, I appreciate your message. But it seems that you're a bit misinformed as to what "oz" mean in terms of leather. 3 oz of leather refers to the average thickness of the hide. 3 oz = 1.2 mm in thickness. It has nothing to do with weight. "
Yeah that is definitely false advertisement but I am apparently misinformed about what an ounce is.
An ounce = 28 grams Nick says these are 4 ounces = 112 grams I received 4 grams of leather But I am somehow misinformed. YEAH BY HIS PRODUCT DESCRIPTION! DONOTBUY!
OK. Did the strap break? You're really concerned about the weight of the leather being off?
www.rusticleather.com/LeatherThicknessChart.html
The strap didn't break because I have not worn it. It is paper thin. Literally I could tear through it very very easily. I would never trust this to hold any of my watches.
@Notsurewhyibother, Nick linked me that exact same chart. Guess I wasn't in on the lingo. Shame on me right? I don't know what an ounce means because some fucks in Texas have a website up. That website must help explanations frequently for Nick. Just sayin.
I will stick with https://www.etsy.com/shop/ManCaveLeather. That dude is a real artist.
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You must be joking.
edit: Oh I see he was referring to the original comment and just hadn't read through the conversation yet. Yes in this listing without the understanding that oz is a measurement of thickness, for some god awful reason, people could be confused that they are going to get 4oz of premium leather. But if they read through this they would find out that some leather guys in Texas decided they just didn't like using metric measurements. So here we are.
Leather Buying Guide - Tandy Leather | Tandy Leather Weight/Thickness - Leather is usually measured in terms of ounces. One ounce equals 1/64th of an inch thickness. Thus, a weight of 7 to 8 oz. means the leather is 7/64th to 8/64th of an inch thickness. https://www.tandyleather.com/en/leather-buying-guide.html
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Created in 2016... when Nick Mankey first sold the ruler strap on here. I am sure he doesn't have 4 shill accounts, maybe 1 isn't him and it was someone like you who just felt the need to read through all of this then take more time and protect Nick Mankey in his quest to rip off the masses? Tell me more about yourself new guy. What are your dreams and aspirations aside from defending Nick Mankey's crap products? Because this being your first post, I have no reference. SHILL
You emailed Mr. Mankey and asked about what "4oz" really meant. He answered your question. Other internet references and actual leather workers support what Mr. Mankey told you. Then you decide to insult Mr. Mankey's business and integrity, and insult everyone who interacts with you, including me.
I suggest leaving the keyboard for a while.
I take astroturfing and deceptive business practices very seriously. If any of these accounts are in fact duplicates or show evidence of an attempt to manipulate the conversation, then I will work with the other teams to deal with that accordingly.
Any further comments in this thread will be removed or moderated. Thank you
TLDR: I bought product on amazon, I didn't understand that "Premium Leather: Naturally soft and supple vegetable tanned 2-3 oz leather " was a measurement of leather thickness and not the actual weight of the leather > I requested refund from Nick > Nick then told me it is supposed to thin > I still want refund because I felt strap was too thin to function and of too low quality leather for how thin it is > Nick wants me to pay for shipping more than 10 bucks > whatever I keep it since that is half the price of a new one and warn the community.
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