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Nordost Blue Heaven Headphone Cables

Nordost Blue Heaven Headphone Cables

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So, any comments from those who have received their cable from this drop?
LOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Ridiculous! $20 cables priced at $270 for $200 headphones...
What headphones will this fit with the supplied connectors?
PenceyPrep
HD 600 HD650 HD6XX
PenceyPrep
There are several options available. Click "join drop" and you will see various terminations available for, amongst others, HD800; HD6XX (also fits HD580/HD600/HD650); 4 pin mini XLR (which fits Audeze LCD-3, LCD-2, LCD-X, LCD-XC), AKG K812 etc. Clicking on "Join Drop" does not commit to a purchase until you fill everything in so don't be afraid to go to it. If you don't want to purchase after looking at the termination options, simply hit your backspace key. If you do select to purchase, click on the proper option you need and fill in the rest of the required info.
Are this cables directly came from heaven and make the headphone more magical ? So than please god make this cable sing for us without headphone. In that way we can save some money!
wow ... the cables cost more than the headphones themselves :) 34 AWG seems thin, esp for this price
What sort of gear would someone be running for these to be a worthwhile improvement in the sound quality? Would the stock cable for somebody's Focals be junk compared to these? I can understand buying them just because they are nice if you have the money.
71Bacon
These cables will not alter the sound quality of your headphones.
nbcnbcnbc
Dream on. If you can’t hear a difference, I’m afraid, yeah, don’t spend the money, you can’t appreciate it. That’s okay, you saved some money so don’t fret
Will this cable allow me to hear sounds from higher space-times?
Was wondering if any of you could recommend a decent budget replacement cable.
My second K7XX ~$50 green cable that I bought directly from AKG AU supplier is failing me again, but the Aussie supplier do not carry cables anymore last time I contacted them.
Nordost? Really? We already have Cardas' crap here, why do we need another overpriced cable company's spin heavy marketing polluting things? At least we get to hear something other than "quad-eutectic" and "golden ratio" now...
I've heard things through Audioquest (at least they make some things that aren't all nonsense) cables and Cardas cables of varying "quality" levels. Not sure I've actually heard Nordost firsthand, but I'm already at a confirmed 2/2 for underwhelming results for the price asked. Not a good start on the high end cable front.
None of it was anything particularly special. The gear it was connected to was simply good enough that you could claim the cables were a big part of the sound and some people might believe you. I will not claim that there are zero differences between cables. My stance is that cables make a difference, but often a very subtle difference, and none of these differences justify the costs of replacing a cable with an identical length and termination combo from most of these companies. I want to replace my HD6XX and M1060 cables, but only because they're 1/8" plugs on short cables, not because there's magic to be had by paying more than I did for the headphones themselves.
If cables were such a magical and dramatic improvement, we wouldn't be seeing all of the praise we do for new headphones. A HD650 with a $6-700 cable would still manage to sit above the pile of crap Audeze just sold you for $4000 with those awful stock cables. All of these reviews would be relative to an older model with the "mandatory mod" of a new cable if this were really the case. Given that it's not, we're back to my assertion. The changes are fairly minor. How much is that tiny improvement worth to you? Would you not rather just fund better gear at these prices? Sure, $3-400 on those $4000 LCD4s isn't as ridiculous as $400 on a $200 headphone, but $400 will buy you a decent chunk of new music if nothing else, which... you know, is the thing you bought them for in the first place.
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You’re hopeless! One’s and zero’s. Really, is that the best you can come up with. What about jitter, impedance inconsistencies and on and on? And let’s talk inductance, capacitance and resistance in cables. And how about skin effect and, bleed through of the signal into the dielectric? You really think it is just 1’s and 0’s? That’s pathetic and you deserve ridicule whether you find it pretentious or offensive. Yes, tin ears due to insensitivity to subtlety, melodic differences, etc. Sorry if you are insulted. The truth hurts sometimes.
SGva
Unfortunately, you're fundamentally incorrect. Obviously just arguing antagonistically for the sake of enjoyment. I would expect nothing less from a pretentious audiophool who believes they are better than everyone else and dedicates their life to gatekeeping the audio world. I hear about people like you not only in the audiophile world, but the "elites" in other hobbies as well.
You didn't critically read my last comment at all. You took it completely at face value and used it only as ammunition to further insult me. Unfortunately for you here as well, I've been on the internet for decades and I won't waste my time on that kind of dead end. If you reply to this comment, I won't reply. I won't even read it.
I'll leave you with this. If you had used even an ounce of reading comprehension you would have been able to realize my mention of "1's and 0's" was only part of it. The part to describe that there are differences between the quality of an audio/sound signal, and the quality of the content, the music, that is contained in that signal. Tin ears refers to the content of the signal, not the quality of the signal itself. Only holier than thou audiophile gatekeepers use it the way you did.
Enjoy your bitter life, just don't expect us peasants to stand beneath you to prop up your industry. Luckily and thankfully, the new generation of audiophiles understands that there are substantial quality differences between a $100 beginner headphone amp and a really great quality one in the $400-500 range, but the difference between a $500 amp and a $5,000 amp leaves at least $3,000 left over that went to pure snake oil.
Triboelectric noise? I bid you farewell old foe! No long shall you taint my tunes!
I can bet 99% of the people talking about how these cables make an audible difference have near-zero knowledge of electrical engineering. Or psychoacoustics. Just saying.
I'd consider buying a cable at this price if it had all-metal connector bodies, 8 way kevlar braid and could literally stop a medieval longsword.
jdeoxys
A near indestructible cable that could support 300 lbs+ of weight/force even at its weakest point might actually be worth the money, but even then that's a stretch. Anker sells USB 3.0/3.1 cables that are proven to support 175 lbs, but those don't even cost $20 shipped.
Objectively/factually speaking (sorry snakeoil victims), the sound coming from this cable and a $10 cable is identical to even a flawlessly functioning human ear. Price hikes after that have to be accounted for in build quality, and the build quality of this cable isn't good enough to support the price.
Supreme quality, handmade commissioned cables don't even cost this much.
From the Nordost website:
" In order to accommodate the added demands on our headphone cables, Nordost has included an Aramid fiber strength member to the construction of this cable. Aramid fibers serve a dual purpose. Not only do they ensure the mechanical integrity of the cable, transferring the strain away from the conductors, but the resonating properties of Aramid fibers also enhance sound quality. "
HUH? What? Aramid is used in things like drum heads and woodwind reeds, where a mechanical force is applied and the material is able to vibrate/resonate. Please tell me how the current running through a headphone cable, or even the magnetic field generated by said current, is interacting with and releasing the "resonating properties" of these aramid fibers.
Any material physicists out there able to shed some light on this pseudoscience? Or perhaps a snekoylologist?
mcknig.k
I will. Aramid is just the name of the product, people know it better as kevlar. Aramid has 0 conductive properties, it is used in wire manufacturing because the extruder pulls on wire pretty damn hard and this prevents it from breaking. (It is around 25 USD a pound depending on vendor) most used 1 strand of it and wrap with another material like fiber glass. On the very low end of the spectrum a cloth tape is used. I do not have my phd in material phys, however before leaving the field I had 15 years experience in wire manufacturing. It takes 75 USD to buy a print wheel, 125 USD for the pint of ink you need and bam slap your name on it. If you want something custom get ready to pay way over cost since we are only doing one spool (which nordost prolly did) When I first started it really opened my eyes into manufacturing products for other companies. One company would sell for 25 the other for 300 for the same product.
mcknig.k
It's a known fact that the more one pays for a given product, the more one will enjoy that product--even when comparing that product to the same product purchased for a lesser amount. In other words, if I pay $270 for this cable, and you pay $30 for it, mine will sound significantly better. If you doubt me, I challenge you to find someone who actually has spent the $270 for this cable, and is willing to tell you they can't hear any difference and freely admit they were dumb, and fell for a load of slick marketing hype--good luck with that!
for the price of HD6XX (stock cable included) and 7 trips to Chipotle, you get... another headphone cable.
Yes, they are silly expensive. No, you do not have to buy them. ...oh but you want them.... So quit your bitching, you babies.
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Objective measurements prove things, if you don't think so no audio product has a proven frequency response because everyone measures things differently. Don't shy measurements away when they very clearly do something. No, minor differences in cables impedance and resistance unintentionally because of source material is not a valid argument for "cables impact sound". Properly made cables will sound exactly the same as one another.
ripsterarmy99
I notice that you failed to even address the question and continue try to project an argument no one is making. -->...but are you really saying that you are also unable to hear the difference between a coat hangar and a high quality 12g wire? between cat5 and starquad? Objective measurements do prove things, nobody is arguing against that. Objective measurements do not 'prove' everything. Perhaps you've never actually done experiments. I doubt you have with the way you desperately cling to the 'measurements by machines are everything' myth. I wish it were not true, but "properly made cables" made out of quality materials can sound different.
Nope. Not now. Not ever at a price over $100, and even 100 is going a bit far for 4-16 wires and a couple of off the shelf connectors.
They're mighty pretty looking cables too. But $270 for a f'ing headphone cable? Does this thing transcend space and time? Or does Nordost (and Massdrop by extension) think that I'm a bloody idiot with more cash (or credit) than brains?
Love ya Massdrop, but every time you spam me with crud like this, I'ma postin' mah thoughts.
Fayne
It sure ain't spam to the 5 people who bought them (so far)...
audible
Which I understand not. But hey, to each their own. Isn't like they spent my money or anything. :)
About two years ago, I was pretty confident in recommending Massdrop to people new to the audiophile hobby. The vast majority of the drops were either great products or decent/good products at a great price.
Those days are long gone and it's largely due to drops like this. I won't even mention Massdrop to newcomers because I don't want people think I'm an idiot who supports buying $300 cables for $200 headphones.
Drops like this are going to destroy your reputation in the long term.
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It would be the opposite of confirmation bias if they stated that one sounded better or worse regardless of price. They made a cable with different materials and the cable sounded different for an unexplained reason? That's pretty much the definition of confirmation bias.
Rashkh
Hahaha. That is absolutely not the definition of confirmation bias. Look, I get that you want to perceived as an educated sceptic and 'confirmation bias' is one of the terms that sceptics and naysayers love to throw around because they think it makes them look smart...but when you use it incorrectly it sure does make you look dumb....which actually confirms my bias about you. "It would be the opposite of confirmation bias if they stated that one sounded better or worse regardless of price." He said "independent of cost" which means the same thing last I checked.
shame on MASSDROP for asking members (not customers, mind you, MEMBERS) to fall for this.
Still working on my ultimate headphone cable design. Raw materials are arriving at the factory daily; prototype assembly starting soon!
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RayF
where's the snakes and oil?
DinoJoe
On the Audiophile page, where it always is!
I can't speak to these cables, but interconnects and power cables make a very audible difference if at the end of your system are high resolution speakers... As far as headphones, I imagine it's just like speaker cable; I have yet to hear a difference in 'speaker cable' that wasn't due to the cable being too small.
I also want to say that I like Nordost quality and if I was in the market for such headphone wires I'd happily buy Nordost from my past purchases. Their blue heaven power cables were terrific upgrades in my system.
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Power cables make a huge difference. It doesn't make sense... but they do... I wish it wasn't the case! When I had the money to 'waste' and had a 30 day return policy I bought a Nordost Blue Heaven 6ft cable, made my own 6ft cable, got a hospital-grade cable online, and compared to the 6ft cable that was free with my Focal subwoofter... all connected to two different tube amps just to test both systems. The comparison is audible to even non audiophile friends. I have seen many double blind speaker cables tests, but not power cable tests that "observe" or measure no difference. Apparently the power cable helps filter the 60hz switching noise of AC... or so seems the most valid explanation since Romex wire in the wall is not twisted And why hospital grade cable is the genesis of 'audiophile' cable. These cables exists and are sold on a large scale because they show a measurable benefit to equipment.
If you enjoy the hobby you should try a nice cable with a return policy! It will blow your mind I bet... And you will have fun trying.
excuse my format, I typed this on my phone waiting for my barber
StevePA
There is something weird going on with your system or the electric in your home if you are getting big audible changes simply by swapping out a power cord.
Dear massdrop I feel outraged that you put such a lowly product in here I am a true Audiophile and wouldnt even consider buying a sub 1k cable if you really care about your comunitty you would drop the Nordost 25k power cable (yes they make those look it up)
Damn it Jim, I'm an Audiophile, not an idiot with a wallet full of Goldcards!!!
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Like the 50's iPod, a "Nichinan 2 Transistor Boy's Radio".
johnpalacio
I actually had a "BOYS" transistor radio. They must have been pretty inexpensive, because on Christmas my father gave them to each of his three kids and all four of my cousins. I used to listen to KHJ (Los Angeles) late at night, under the covers, with my high-quality, audiophile-grade, head set:
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Tell Nordost to try pulling my other leg 😩
This cable costs them $15 to manufacture, so the classic profiteering here is ludicrous beyond stupid. Get rich quick schemes should be shutdown, even in a freemarket situation.
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So he zombie hits (revives it from the dead - old thread) this thread, then smashes a 1 cent comment on the table😩
As you were😜
Mbot
ah. I guess you won't get over it.
lol these cost more than the headphones themselves
Some expensive snake oil
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Audiophool defeated.
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-cable-measurements-part-one-page-2 Frequency response measurements showing a slightly bad stock cable but otherwise all cables are within margin of error.
Summed up results of final experiment (source included on the page) https://consumerist.com/2008/03/03/do-coat-hangers-sound-as-good-monster-cables/
Is the stereo 3.5mm for sony two sided? Is it compatible with beyerdynamic T1 2nd Gen?
I hate triboelectric noise.
Tragique
As do I. All the noise caused by these Tribbles can drive anyone insane.
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Jdjung
Well played!
I have no problem with expensive cables. Just know that when you buy them they won't improve the sound at all. If you just want a nicer cable then by all means go ahead. I'm still sticking to me $72 Periapt Balanced cables.
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Oh for sure. I wouldn’t pay that for a cable.
Cokeman
I love my Periapt cables
I do believe that good cables make some improvement but when the cable cost more than the headphones they are for, it does not make any senses to buy them.
It's like tires for your car are more expensive than a car. Logic.