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NovelKeys x Kailh BOX Thick Clicks Switches

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Update!
- September 21, 2019 - All packages shipped out for BOX thick clicks. - August 22, 2018 - All packages shipped out. Drop complete for just the BOX Switches drop. BOX thick clicks will be shipped out by Sept 21, 2018. -August 21, 2018 - Received the switches and have them packaged up. All switches from this drop will be shipped out tomorrow. - July 30, 2019 - There have been some recent reports of customer's experiencing issues with BOX switches and GMK keycaps. Because of this, I have worked/talked to Kailh to get to the bottom of this. For the long explanation, go to my reddit account and see my latest post. The issue will be resolved, but this is going to delay this drop. I apologize for the delay, but I would rather have this issue fixed asap. I should be able to still get this round shipped out by the middle of September.
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Just to clarify, so I know my understanding is correct: The switches were made to a specification designed for one manufacturer who was using an atypical size, so all of the switches were made to that size at the time, and the sizing was never changed, which is why some people are experiencing problems, and the new batches will be made to a more universal or general sizing specification that should not cause standard keycaps to break?
mgsickler
Wow, that was fast! Thank you for all your work on these.
My navy switches arrived today, are now adorning my CTRL eyboard (loos lie I need to replace the "cay"). I previously had Halo clears on this board, and I did lie them. I've ept them on the WASD eys, for now at least. REALLY liing the clicy goodness of these navys though. (will replace the "cay" as soon as I finish writing this.
Spork13
I can now add the missing letter to my previous post: kkkkkkkkk :)
Here is where the discussion continues (ends? dies?) on these switches: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-tokyo-keyboard-tokyo60-keyboard-kit/talk/2179883
@mgsickler I received my Jades, Navies, and Pales today :D. It almost reminds me of clicking pens. I noticed that in the reddit post you mentioned "eating the cost..." if that means that you have a stock of the older switches, I would gladly buy some to lessen that burden on you :D
So these switches are back in stock on kbd fans. When can I expect my package?
Can this drop be reopen since the order is being delayed..? Missed this one and would love to get in on it
I’m so glad this drop has been delayed to address this issue, I’m really looking forward to trying my first box switches and was worried this might mar my experience. Great decision and I hope the issue is rectified.
With all the recent shenanigans going on about box switches, I don't know how I should feel about my drop on this...
otanishock
I'll have an update on this soon.
Should have waited on my keyboard I recently built. Anyways, I got navy blues and they're honestly one of the best switches I ever used in my life. Granted I prefer a heavy switch, and these are pretty heavy.
Hmm good price but have to wait too long...
Dgordon
Straight from Novelkeys they're ~$41 shipped for 110, so you're saving <$8 but waiting 3 months for it. I'd rather just buy straight from Mike since then he's getting a better cut and I don't wait 3 months for $8 difference.
donutcat
Novelkeys is really good at delivering their stuff. I wouldn't say it's going to take the actual length stated.
I recently went from cherry mx browns to box jades and I love it. I'll still buy boards with browns, but these have taken the new top spot. They're definitely loud. They're not far off my buckling spring kb, but the sound signature is higher in pitch. On the other end, they're a little louder than blues, but with a much lower pitch.
The action is fabulous. I'll be strung up for saying it, but I prefer it to my buckling spring kb.
I got some Box Jades direct from NovelKeys a few months ago, and I freakin' love these switches. Admittedly, this is the first set of "exotic" switches I've tried, but Jades perfectly satisfy my need for switches that are clicky but relatively light. They're slightly heavier than the Gateron Blues I've been using in my TADA68, but you can only notice it if you're feeling them side-by-side.
My ideal click is loud and deep, and the Jade click is wonderfully loud. It's slightly higher in pitch than a traditional clicky switch, but I've found that the type of keycap affects the pitch much more strongly than anything else. (To get that really deep pitch, I had to invest in some SA caps. With SA caps, Blues and Jades sound virtually the same.)
Just sharing my experiences for anyone else recently snagged into the murky hole of custom keyboards ^^'
Man, the Box Navy's look like they might be my dream switch. I hope Massdrop makes a split keyboard, like the Mistel Barocco, or better yet, the Kinesis Freestyle Edge, to go with the CTRL and ALT. Perhaps they could call it the SPACE.
The_Jniac
That's brilliant.
Is it true that these switches do not suffer from hysterisis, like the cherry clicky switches do?
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To be honest I don't really have much technical knowledge regarding hysteresis, so I can only speak for my experience. When I think of hysteresis, I am thinking of difficulty in rapidly depressing a key twice. The easier it is, less hysteresis. I think this also correlates to how easy it is to accidentally keep the key depressed from just the weight of your fingers. I have this problem with MX Blues where I will press a last letter, and don't realize that I am continuously pressing it because the reset point is too high up, or because the spring isn't stiff enough. Please correct me if my interpretation of hysteresis is wrong. And if I am correct in my understanding of the concept, I really can't see how hysteresis is a positive character in any switch at all.
Sorry if i misunderstood the question. I was basing my answer off of elastic hysteresis Long version: https://gradestack.com/JEE-Main-2015-Complete/Elasticity/Elastic-Hysteresis/19497-3784-40968-study-wtw Short version: When you deform something (a spring in this case) it may not return the same amount of energy you put into it when it returns to its resting position. If you compare the blue line and the orange line the larger the area between the 2 the more energy is lost (hysteresis)
It sounds like you're describing the actual electrical contact that the key press makes, in which case, I have not used these so I can not contribute :P
Are these RGB compatible? Would they work on the ALT (and let light through)?
Thornkin
Yes they will.
Will these fit into the ALT, or is the switch housing different than normal MX switches?
Ginron
They will fit in the ALT just fine.
We all know that these force curves are not accurate. Why won't you link haata force curves instead?
given the +20% import tax and +£8 admin costs, is this still a good deal if you're in the uk? is there a different place importing that ends up cheaper? (for now anywhere in europe doesn't incur import fees)
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ah, so 9p more per switch (roughly) than the site vigrith suggested. thank you for data! :)
dolljoints
The numbers I've listed are rough numbers but yeah it's only a bit more expensive to grab them from massdrop. What I've found while using Massdrop in the UK is that if you look at the price and just whack a £ in front instead of a $ that's about how much you'll be paying.
There are a few things that have worked out to be cheaper (keycaps and full boards normally have crazy shipping on them from places like MechanicalKeyboards.com so it's always good to have a peak on here from time to time!
AUGUST?! What have I done...
onishima
Just got my BOX Navy's and they feel very similar to my MX Greens, but with a deeper click sound and a bit more tactile and seem like they require a bit more force. They work well with SMD leds in-case anyone was wondering.
They Feel very different then my Gatereon Greens-=
Just got box navies today and switched out the arrow keys for now. Wow, very clicky! If I had to compare them to another key I would say they are comparable to MX greens. Very tactile as well, much more than my Pale Blues. I honestly can'd decide which one I like better at this point. Navies are more tactile and clicky, but Pale Blues are more smooth. Both are excellent though, and I'll have to switch out the entire keyboard and go through a sew typing sessions to be sure.
Included sticker is a nice touch. Does anybody know if the sticker is removable? It doesn't seem all that sticky.
etatauri
Just finished replacing my board with the Navies.. and oh boy, I will be annoying a whole bunch of people at work ;)
Are these switches compatible with LEDs?
steve19
Yes and no. The click bar interferes if you try to mount a 3mm either below or above the switch housing. A 1.8mm LED soldered to the PCB beneath the switch will work just fine though, and will still shine through. I've got RED 1.8mm LEDs underneath the Box Navies on my DZ60 and it looks fantastic.
steve19
I used 2x3x4mm led's and they fit in the slot just fine. Just solder them as close to the pcb as possible. I used these: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C5HL0PO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
so angry i just missed this. If anyone ordered an extra set of jades please pm
Sseeaann
you can still order from their sight. It will cost a little bit more, but they will ship it to you faster.
Sseeaann
Hey, I have an extra 50 switches or so if you still need them.
Do they work with O-rings (I have a SA profile = room for big O-rings)?
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OlivierPons
You can't use O-Rings with Signature Plastics SA profile caps. You would need like 2-3 really fat ones and it just doesn't feel right. Someone on r/mk made a post about this like 3 years ago, I would look around and try to find that post.
mzipf
interesting thanks, I didn't think it would matter what profile, but I guess the stem attachment part would be fatter?
Still waiting for the "Super Switch Tester (63 switches)" and the Massdrop CTRL to arrive before purchasing this. I want to jump the gun so bad.
Holy moly on those box navies I just received today. I love how super clicky and loud these ”thick click navies” I ordered at Novel Keys, and it’s nice I don’t have to lube them.
I might have to order the box jades before I decide which to put on my EOTW Preonic. Thank you Novel Keys for adding stickers.

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we'll bring back the thic clicks later in June, stay tuned :)
XiK
Sounds great ty. Any chance of a linear option as well?
Still haven't gotten my Box Jade from the last drop and they are dropping them again?
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mzipf
After reading a few of these, I decided not to go with this drop :/ I'll have to check back and see if things are looking better, but I probably just buy off Ebay where the shipping dates are not an issue. Keep me posted!
I love my Box Navies, but there's something you should consider before installing them.
I found that the switches were a very tight fit going into the plate, and much harder to get out because of this. Spreading a little lube around the edges of the hole in the plate fixed this.
The keycaps were also very tight and had to be pushed quite hard to get them all the way in. I ended up putting lube on both the stem and the keycap before it was easy enough to move.
Of course, your conditions might be different. But I'd recommend installing and removing one switch before comitting to the whole keyboard.
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I was looking at the KIRA, and it looked awesome, but holy crap, $240? IDK about that, but looks neat, hope they can actually come out with it, cuz I'm not spending that much without more info about production and dates etc... Maybe MD will take the %100 size hot swap design and push it forward. Hope so.
SennapodTee
I also think this is an issue with the board plate rather than the switches. I have the K-Type and the cause seems to be the rounded corners on the cut-outs of the plate. Its not a huge deal though, It shaves off the corners ever so slightly.
I bought the Pale Blue Boxes a couple drops ago and I was wondering if anybody else here are having trouble with key chatter? There are certain key combos that sometimes make double taps of the same letter. For example, for the past few days I had trouble with my R key until I switched the switch with a function row key that I don't use often. Seems ok now, but I had other keys behaving like this in the past, like my M key. Is there a tendency for the box switch mechanism to fire twice in certain situations? I can't seem to reproduce the error consistently so it can be kind of frustrating.
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Have you tried any Box linear? I was thinking about trying them, but I guess the point of box is mainly the click or tactile versions... Any thoughts?
etatauri
Fwiw I got box whites from an older drop installed in my GMMK and definitely noticed occasional chatter in multiple keys. I've already swapped out two of the ones that were happening frequently. There are still a few keys that chatter infrequently enough that I haven't yet swapped.
Why shouldn't I just buy these from NovelKeys site? Are they backordered or slow to ship from there? I don't particularly care about saving a few dollars, I just want them as soon as possible.
JeanZ
No reason, I would just get them from Novelkeys, as long as you're not ordering like several thousand switches (in which case you can probably get a volume rebate directly from Novelkeys).