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NovelKeys x Kailh Low-Profile Heavy Switches

NovelKeys x Kailh Low-Profile Heavy Switches

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So, for the people that have bought these: what are your experiences so far? Mine are below.
I've bought the tactile version, overall I'm slightly disappointed. I expected these keys to have less travel than regular keys, but I didn't expect it to feel this much. Not really a fault of the keys, but a bit of a bummer. More annoying though, is the fact that I feel pretty much no tactile bump at all on any of the keys. It may have to do with the small amount of travel and that it leads to 'skipping' the bump, but no matter how I try to test the switches I don't feel anything. To me that's the biggest disappointment and it will likely put me off of purchasing a Planck light down the road. So if you're looking for a tactile switch I'd give this a pass.
What about another drop? With an option for 87 keys also?
how do you find keycaps for these switches?
JohnDerp
Novel keys have keycaps that will fit
So, there's no way these will work with a OLKB Preonic keyboard even with current Kailh Bronze switches?
Dominosmofo
These are different than mx style switches. The footprint is different. They will work on the Planck light though.
What PCBs support these kailh switches? If I do buy these it would be my first build and I would love to have a 75% PCB to go along with these switches for travel. Is there any keywords I should look for? Is the pinout on the switches a standard Kailh pinout? If that is the case, do I just need to search for Kailh-compatible PCBs? What do I need to search for specifically to ensure a proper fit with these switches?
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Thanks for the reply! So it seems that there are very little PCBs that support this keyswitch. I found one PCB (https://keeb.io/products/chocopad-16-key-macropad-for-kailh-choc-low-profile-switches ) but it is arranged in a grid and more suited for a macropad or something similar. I'll keep an eye out for any other PCBs that pop up. But I don't think this product is fleshed out yet as much as it should be for me to actually consider buying them.
WeaselBurray
Yep, it's unfortunate. It's definitely fully fleshed out in that they work (and they work well), but there just aren't enough PCBs that support them just yet to make them 100% worth it, though I have hope that we're getting there soon!
So why should you buy these if cherry mx keycaps don't work
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There are very few options right now. I think this is mostly for people making things from scratch.
climbalima
Yeah that's what I as thinking
Would love a drop for the lighter versions with compatible (preferably blank) caps.
BillyBuerger
Yup. Thank you for the suggestion:) I have seen it there but ordering from the EU ends up very expensive.. Hence a drop would be cool :)
Is there a numpad that I can use these with? I was looking to get a numpad for my laptop so I want it to be thin (travel with it) and these would be great.
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Yes, I should actually have something to announce hopefully by end of March
Zynski
Check out keeb.io they have a choco pad which is a 4x4 macro pad that is fully programmable. You could program it to be a number pad and still have extra keys
Does anyone know if these are the same switches used on Planck Light board (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-olkb-planck-light-mechanical-keyboard)? The same, I mean, do they have the same spring rates? I'm thinking about picking these up to replace switches on Planck Light if spring rates are different.
EDIT: Nvm. Found the answer. https://www.reddit.com/r/olkb/comments/6zethe/the_planck_light_kailh_low_profile_switches_rgb/dmuo7yl/
TAsU
These are heavier versions of the switches offered for the light board.
mgsickler
yup yup. I got this drop. Can't wait to get my board and put these babies.
Would these work for any plate? Might be fun to try them in my hot-swappable board...
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so no K-Type compatibility? :(
kylehovey
Apparently not
Where can keycaps be found for these that ship to the UK. Only place I've found charges $55 for shipping and I'd rather not pay that much...
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Just noticed the pins on these aren't going to work with the PCB I want to use so maybe next time. Thanks for the answer none the less!
Sheeepman
Anytime! More Kailh Low Profile PCBs have been popping up. :)
1) Are there non-heavy variants of these switches? Edit: Yes, there are. 2) Where do you get stabilizers for these? 3) Is the bottom really white? Quote: "Transparent top with white bottom"
denshi
1) Yes there are. I have them on my site now, but I will be working with MD on a drop for those sometime soon too. :) 2) I am working on that with Kailh right now on that. I got sent some samples, need to figure out the pricing. 3) No, bottom on these is black.
" Compatible with MX stem keycaps and SMD LEDs " as @Makami asked? How are these compatible with MX?
bogdanm
Seconded. How is this compatible with MX?
bogdanm
They are not compatible with MX keycaps or PCBs.
So is there a source for these keycaps?
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What the heck is up with that bottom row? Any idea if these are ABS or PBT? Any idea where to get stabilizers?
denshi
I bought mine to use on orth style builds so I never really paid attention to the bottom row. But yeah, non-standard there. Ctrl is 1.25u but Alt, Win and Fn are 1.5u. Menu key is 1u. Not sure if they are ABS or PBT. They use an MX style cross for the stabilizers but I'm not sure where you would get them. I wonder if you could use a costar stabilizer if you cut down the sides for the shorter travel.
no mx stems, they require dedicated caps (even the cherry ml ones are not compatibile)
s__y
we're working to get that updated, thanks for the call out :)
is this the same switch used on OLKB Planck Lite?
TheDoom8ringer
Yes this is!
TheDoom8ringer
No, these are a heavier version. But same style.
Dear MD,
maybe i'm completly on the wrong track or still to asleep, would you please mind to explain:
" Compatible with MX stem keycaps and SMD LEDs "
Thank you
Edit: I'm having fun with my Drevo Joyeuse, do like those low profile switches, but those keycaps lack some profile. Looking for the first keycapdrop fitting :)
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Agreed. I tend to be lenient towards small mistakes like this but not everyone double checks everything like I do so I can see how it can trip people up and cause them to join in something that isn't what they want this one being a drastic case because I strongly hope people realize mx compatible keycaps won't work here. Recent example would be no mention of the 2u left shift on the GK64. Some people wouldn't realize at first glance. Should have been noted.
TanvirK175
Oh my, had just been looking at https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ducky-horizon-pbt-dpubleshot-keycap-set From the description at the bottom: " Front-printed legends " Another small mistake, "Manager" for product description seems to be on vacation.