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INnoVation
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Mar 16, 2017
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Received the set within about 6 weeks after the drop due to a couple of redirects and delays, but that wasn't the worst part.... I have a Razer Blackwidow X Chroma that has as far as I know standard cherry stems. Yet the set has one of the worst fits of a keycap I have had the mistortune to own-trying to get them on the keyboard itself I feared for the stems and if the fit for the original keycaps would be affected due to the tight fit that would wear away at the material. Later came the worst part: removal. I was horrified to realise that all the effort to put the whole set on would only be doubled in trying to get them off. Due to no keycap puller being included and having none of my own lying around, I spent the better part of an hour using a ruler, hoping it would not break as I pried each keycap off. Truly the amount of force needed to force each keycap off the stem is ridiculous-perhaps the people who deal with these daily participate in some sort of thumbwrestling professional league? Due to this being my first custom keycap set, you can be sure it will be my last as I have never honestly expected to pay for and receive so much trouble for my efforts. Thank you for putting the listing perhaps to widen a keyboard ignorant's world, but perhaps it was a step too far for me to take. It shall rest in the bottom drawer of my desk, never to see the light of day again-or perhaps be handed off to another unfortunate soul. Of course this might be a fluke and an unfortunate occurence, but having one of my two orders canceled and the other with so many flaws leads me to believe waiting for an Amazon sale would be better...
Mar 16, 2017
PropsAndMayhem
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Mar 18, 2017
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INnoVationNo where does it say the set comes with a keycap puller, nor is your keyboards layout compatible with this set, you'd have to mix and match to get it all to fit. I feel like you didn't do adequate research before purchasing and now are lashing out. Sorry it didn't work out but NPKC's keycaps are generally good quality.
Mar 18, 2017
INnoVation
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Mar 18, 2017
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PropsAndMayhemGenerally Razer's key stems are compatible with most cherry keycaps-if anything they are some of the best cherry clones on the market, or at least have the best name due to being rated even higher than that of cherry itself. The part about the keycap puller I retract becasue no mention of keycap was in the drop, but I am stll very surprised at the overly tight fit on the keycap set that I received. By right no manufacturer should inconvenience themselves by increasing the size of the stem of the key itself and thus the error should lie with the keycap set that I received. Admittedly it might seem like a fluke or a one off but since this concerns me I will of course make these issues known.
Mar 18, 2017
PoekRose
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Mar 28, 2017
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INnoVationCM Storm Quickfirst XT here (cherry switches, not clones), and my caps have the same tight fit. Swear I was going to break the stems just putting these caps on. (it is however, my first time changing caps, so I'm not an expert on how tight these should be)
Mar 28, 2017
INnoVation
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Mar 29, 2017
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PoekRoseDue to the replies from the admin and the others on other websites, I am led to believe that the replacement keycaps are supposed to go on like the standard ones, with a easy yet snug fit. What you describe and the lack of replies to my second comment has led me to believe that our sets are merely a small number that has somehow made it to retail without being QCed, a fucking oversight if I've ever seen one but admittedly something that is well within reason to happen. Considering my set took over a month in limbo as teh system tried to send the set to an address not within the US, I have a feeling that RMAing the product will have little to no use. Now it is up to the admin or the managers of the page to reply to my post, and for us to see the outcome of how the company handles our two cases. Surely for Razer and Coolermaster some of the two largest brands the keycaps should fit? Is that why my post has received no further replies admin? The ball's in your court to clarify.
Mar 29, 2017
GoKartMozart
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Apr 7, 2017
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INnoVationHow'd you get your original keycaps off without a keycap puller? Don't make it seem like it's Massdrop's / manufacturer's fault you weren't adequately prepared. Additionally Razor's layout is non standard and wont work with sets like these without mix matching / having extra keys to work with. Next time do your research.
Apr 7, 2017
INnoVation
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Apr 7, 2017
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GoKartMozartI used my sense and fingers. They slide off easily. Why on earth would you need an implement? And I see you're not replying to the other user about his set. I am not saying the keys dont fit the whole keyboard, I mean the keycaps dont fit the key stems. The STEMS. With regards to that I see little reason as to why ther would be issues. Unless you are saying that QC is not done on each set? That standards are not as consistent as you would like it to be? Frankly I'm tired of trying to get a direct response but for my sake and the other user, either reply directly to me as to why on earth the keycaps dont fit CHERRY COMPATIBLE key stems, or please stop replying and deflecting what otherwise is a very direct query. Why on earth does a cherry compatible keycap set not fit a cherry compatible stem?
Apr 7, 2017
INnoVation
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Apr 7, 2017
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GoKartMozartMakes me rethink why I even chose this website to make my purchases. If you have nothing to help or even attempt to assuage my concerns then please take your ignorance elsewhere.
Apr 7, 2017
RandomPerson52
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Apr 10, 2017
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INnoVationNo offense mate, but there's no reason to get uppity like that. You're not going to get any help posting walls of text and taking neutral comments personally. I will empathize with you however, this hobby requires a -lot-of research. I'll also empathize that massdrop logistics need some work, I've also dealt with that.
People aren't really providing help, because there really isn't any way to help. Either the keycap is going to fit or it isn't. Either this is on Massdrop/NPKC or on you. Unfortunately the keycaps do not fit and this is on you from our perspective, hence the comments.
It also comes across a bit odd to call razer keyswitches some of the best. By those who investigate keyswitches often, they are of poor to okay quality, and certainly poor value due to the extraprice razer charges.
As per having difficulty getting the keycaps off, that is on you. Keycap pullers are cheap and you can fashion them from paper clips if you must. Even tightly fit keycaps (like those with ALPS stems) will be a breeze with these.
Now, are you claiming that the NPKC keycaps won't even fit on the razer switches? It isn't unheard of to have issues fitting with the occasional rogue keycap, but I find it unlikely that this will happen for every key. After you get them on, a tight fit is no issue.
Now, when they mean that the razer blackwidow x chroma isn't a compatible layout they mean that the keycap widths aren't correct. Take a look at your keyboard (https://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-blackwidow-x-chroma ), specifically at the bottom row. Now take a look at a standard 104 key layout (http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional/images/model_s_pro_slider_2016.png). Notice that keys like the windows key is smaller, and the control and alt keys are wider on the razer. This is actually one compelling reason to avoid razer keyboard.
Even if you fix your fitting issue, your layout incompatibility is an indication to us that your research wasn't complete.
BTW, you won't find stuff like these on amazon, and when you do they will often be of poorer quality.
Apr 10, 2017
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