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Oris Artelier Translucent Skeleton Automatic Watch

Oris Artelier Translucent Skeleton Automatic Watch

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Way too inexpensive on MD! You can get 'em for a lot more here:
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Great this time it actually is the watch that they advertised => Oris Artelier Translucent Skeleton, not just Oris Artelier Skeleton with gold plated bits. :)
cheaper on jomashop
pjacks10
Hi, fortunately, this time they added the right one, the artelier translucent skeleton, except that normal one with gold plated bezel, indexes and hands. So unfortunately You are wrong translucent one goes on jomashop for 1195 $. So here it is almost 200 $ cheaper.
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Hey Massdrop, consider adding high-FPS gifs to the images. Every time I scroll through watch drops, I wish I could see the movement actually moving.
Obviously a different model from what was offered in the previous drop and in the title (Translucent Skeleton). Quit recycling pages, Massdrop, creating new ones costs a dime and all you do instead is screw over people that wanted to buy the original piece, got an email and ended up disappointed.
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New drop and still waiting for the right option to come here... So close... just need the "non-gold" version of the same model and I am sold... Not a huge gold fan, go figure :)
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Yes, but it's the translucent one. I am hoping for non-gold, non-translucent version. They have like 5 different variations of their Artelier line. Hoping that someday, my preferred version comes :)
marko.pecnik
I think I want to wait for that version as well... I like it better aesthetically.
Months after this drop ended I finally received this watch due to import and customs delays. I have to say its a beautiful watch and was worth the wait. As another comment suggests the pictures don't do it justice. The mechanism is mesmerizing and you begin to take in the intricate nature of the design the longer you wear it. I am something of a watch novice and this is my first Oris watch but i am very impressed with the overall quality.
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Got mine today and all I can say is that pictures really don't do it justice, particularly to the steel bracelet. The case is gorgeous and the straps simply blend in rather than being the eye sore pictured in the description. Also, they are much more flexible than expected (in lack of a better term) and adjust to the arm nicely. I unfortunately can't comment on the performance yet, as this is my first mechanical watch. However, while I imagine people buying these make some research beforehand, I do have three points I feel worth mentioning: 1. The bracelet isn't adjustable, and upon receiving the watch, you will need to head to a local watch shop to tailor it to your wrist. The process takes about 15 minutes and costs less than $10, but do keep this in mind. 2. A new leather strap from Oris (crocodile dark brown, like in the Google pictures) costs about $150 and may take up to a month to arrive, depending on where you live. 3. This, as all watches in general, is water resistant, not water proof. The "xx meters" measurement is VERY misleading, with '3 bar' being basically "splash resistant". Do not shower with, do not swim with it. Check this article for reference: https://www.thrillist.com/gear/what-your-watch-water-resistance-numbers-mean
Edit: Fresh out of the box I measured +4s/24h, which, considering the -5 to +20 specified deviation, is pretty good. Will update again in a month.
Edit #2: Had it for a month now, and here's some impressions. Starting with the time keeping ability, the average daily deviation is +5.5 seconds, 'average' being a key word here, as I've had daily deviations ranging from +2 to +9. Still, that's apparently considered perfectly normal for mechanical watches, and other than that, it behaves - there are no mismatches in the hand positions, the automatic winding mechanism can fully wind the spring and in general, I couldn't spot any oddities in its operation. In terms of comfort, the case just sits there on the hand without any problems, and the real factor is the strap. The steel one I found very comfortable (for a steel strap), although the folding butterfly clasp might take a while getting used to. As for the croco leather strap ($150), when it eventually mellows out and becomes supple, it has a softer, more pleasant touch. However, initially, it's very stiff and unbendy, so prepare for an adaptation period if you choose that one. Lastly, a word on build quality. With great price come great expectations, and Oris has delivered on the 99th percentile, which in my book is just a small step below Perfect. There are small imperfections on the grain uniformity close to the cuts, and on the barrel (seen through the back), but that's only visible if you REALLY stuff your face into the watch. I suppose I can also negatively comment on the steel's chrome being easy to scratch, but literally every watch has this issue (unless it's made of Platinum). The bracelet is very well built as well, looking good and feeling sturdy. The one thing I do have an issue with, is the (optional) leather strap. The so-called "croco" leather is actually lambskin with a crocodile pattern. The looks and stitching is great, but the leather itself not only is stupidly stiff out of the box, it also tends to "break" on the croco pattern lines. This is most prominent if there's a hole drilled on that line (which in my case, there is), causing it to L-bend, which further prolongs the softening period as well as potentially being a comfort nuisance. Anyhow, with all that in mind, if I had to recommend the watch to someone loving the design and having the spare cash, I wholeheartedly would.
DimaG
Random tidbit to add: friend of mine got a Tissot that ended up having a big gap at one side (band has two holes for mounting onto the watch body, it came mounted on the second one leaving an ugly gaping maw where the body met the band). Official Tissot place is kinda far from us so ended up going to the outlet/mall nearby. First discount watch store he went to initially wanted $10 to tighten, then backed out when they found out the brand. Second (right across from that shop) was a jewelry store. The lady inside was super nice and 'unofficially' made him promise not to get upset if any minor scratches end up while trying to pry the band off. Friend was cool with it and she ended up making a successful adjustment. He asked how much and she scoffed saying she just took a small screwdriver to pry it out, probably 5-10 minutes of her time, and that she wasn't charging him. Your mileage might vary, but just a heads up.
Great brand! I have an Artelier and love it! Throw an Aquis (men’s this time) and I’ll be all over it!
Massdrop, we love Oris. If this didn't break any sales records, please don't give up on the brand.
Right brand, right collection, but not the right model.... :( Hope some 01 734 7670 4051-07 5 21 70FC come in soon... :) :)
marko.pecnik
> 01 734 7670 4051-07 5 21 70FC
The Oris model numbering is just insane :)
What's funny then is seeing the serial number on the watch. It has 1/3rd digit count of the kilometre long model number... If 7 digits can exactly identify particular manufactured physical piece of watch (if you try to register it on Oris.ch, you get full model number and details), why the heck have 22 letters just to identify a model variant?
marko.pecnik
It sure is... Try and make a phone call to local dealer and ask if they have that particular one on stock or in sales... Is a fun call everytime :)
Is this price cheaper than ashford and jomashop?
Wow. This is an amazing deal for the watch, considering it is 2500+ EUR officially in Europe.
But I really do have mixed feelings about this one. I had this watch in my sights for some time and actually, I bought this exact model just a month ago elsewhere. It is still out there, for 979 shipped immediately, shop around. Yes, it was store display, but flawless, still in foils, no scratches whatsoever (checked all around with 20x loupe), and I suspect (only suspect!) this is actually the same source as them, since they have similar amounts available.
On one hand, the watch is really gorgeous, the movement is properly skeletonized with hollowed out bridges, the "high mech" trademark really shines through both in writing on the weight in the back and also in physical and mechanical appearance through the front. Non-WIS people appraised the watch immediately when they saw it. I never saw the appeal of skeletons showing a part of the movement obscured by full front plate, or showing only a partially obscured escapement, but this is THE true skeleton. The see-through-and-through front and back crystals with the movement 'hanging' on 'indices' create an illusion of the movement being suspended mid-air and it is really beatifull sight.
That being said, one major caveat. Only the front crystal is sapphire. The back crystal is mineral only (scratches? especially on metal bracelet) and what's worse, it is convex.
Firstly, it creates a sort of weird feeling against the wrist, but there is probably some aesthetic reason behind that.
Secondly, without being subjected to any abuse, the back crystal just cracked right through the middle on second wear, took the watch off the wrist and there it goes. I have multiple watches, some of them were exposed to a pretty hard use (construction work with percussion drills, etc. - and obviously, this is not a watch for this kind of wrist time, so it got none of it) and never had a crystal damage, more so on the back. That "vendor for 979 USD" was very straightforward about that - immediately offered exchange with pre-paid shipping (which is nice, but repeated import tax/required paperwork remains an issue) and also offered reimbursement for the local service, which I am currently procuring.
Given my experience, I would never order such fragile (full, convex crystal on the back) watch from Massdrop given Massdrop-only warranty. Seiko Alpinist from Massdrop? Hell, yes! You can throw that thing across the room and stomp on it and it will still work with +2 sec/day (I have one, from Massdrop), that one will never need any service in several years, any warranty apart from DOA is pretty useless on that.
But this watch, susceptible to even looking at it sideways? Be really wary. *Of course, your mileage may vary.*
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63 days in my case, for two repair cycles. * 41 days for the first one (mostly spent on waiting for Oris to ship), after which the watch was returned with the back glass shattered - not the little crack in our pictures, but like someone had beat the crap out of it. The salesperson was very apologetic, which didn't make me feel any better about it. * 22 days for the second repair, this time they made sure not to screw up, I guess, although the watch did not return as flawless as it was left there. The rotor has micro dents in the red colouring, and tiny grains of dust inside the back glass. I'm nitpicking, of course, both can only be seen either through extreme closeups or with a strong flashlight, but for a luxury watch (with luxury pricing), "almost" doesn't cut it for me.
As for the nature of the replacement glass, the repairs shop that actually did the work says it's sapphire (claims they had actually tested it). I don't really have the means to test it myself, but while the somewhat blueish hue and the "successful" water drop tests might be just my luck, it is thicker than I originally remember it, so that's a good sign.
Finally, recommending the watch past this experience, I honestly can't decide. It's still a remarkable piece of work, but how many people have had this particular issue? Did Oris revise the original design and we got a "bad batch"? For how long will the new glass last? The repair cost $180, the watch a $1k. I won't bother with Massdrop's warranty since the receipts aren't in English and I seriously doubt I'll get any refund anyways. Bottom line then, I'd recommend this only if someone's really in love with the design (which I do, but no longer can call the deal "worth").
DimaG
Thanks for sharing. Two repairs is crazy...
Now that you mention the sapphire, my invoice also said "Sapphire crystal replacement" (on the line billing for work, there was no mention of crystal type for the crystal itself), but I brushed it off as accounting error, just a generic name for crystal replacement work and didn't bother to ask. But I also noticed the crystal being thicker than remembering it.
In my case the total was around 140 USD, but they didn't bill for pressure test. Thankfully, in my case, Ashford refunded it in full even with foreign language receipt. I wouldn't mind the cost itself, but the disappointment of new watch suddenly being unusable, the waiting, the drive to service center, the drive to pickup store, etc. My conclusion would be the same as yours, buy with caution... But this is still one of the nicest skeleton designs out there in the non-30.000 range.
I never understood the appeal of a skeletonized watch. I would understand if it were some insane manual wind chrono (think Zenith or some hand-finished thing the cost of a car), but this just does not do it for me. I would rather have a regular Atelier. That said, I really do prefer an ETA movement.
SkipPp
To present an opposing opinion:
Actually, there is not much more to see on chronos. Yes, cam/column wheel, but that is on the back and you get that on manual-winds with see-through casebacks (e.g. Strela 3133, which is based on Valjoux 7734 machinery), you won't see that from front anyway.
What got me on this watch is the hardcore skeletonization. You really see through the entire movement and having it 'suspended' on the indices creates an appearance of "this is really it? this thing suspended mid-air in the middle is the entire watch?", whereas the Arteliers with skeletonized middle and full white plate with indices create an appearance of "there is some shenanigans going on behind the indices" (the Arteliers with full plate behind indices also have smaller crystals on the caseback - which actually may be a good thing, see the post above on my caseback having failed). In person, you actually wonder how the movement holds together with such minimalized bridges. Just compare the watch to the base movement to see how much they have done aesthetically.
Seems far too similar to an old Swatch Irony. Which was a great watch at $150. https://www.ebay.com/p/Swatch-Irony-Body-and-Soul-Automatic-Steel-Watch-37mm-YAS100G/6003303885?iid=122309282095
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Ignoring the price increase because of brand name. I can tell by the images that the images are of greatly different quality. Having physical experience with both watches, I can say exterior appearances of build quality are damned near similar. The Swatch actually has a more finely adjustable bracelet. But that seems pretty typical of high-end watches. Better to tell the quality of manufacture when you tear down the watch for servicing, but like cars, most people don't do their own maintenance.
Retail pricing of $20 for a replacement sapphire crystal vs $10 plastic still does not justify a cost difference. Cost difference in the slightly more complicated casing of the Oris isn't going to raise the price much either. They are both solid (if you can't stand holding the Swatch, their masses and water resistance levels are the same). If it's a question of build quality (because, again, near no difference in materials), I have no argument, because I have no data suggesting the Oris is superior or inferior in this regard. Cost is in no way a determination of quality manufacture.
The level of polish and filigree additions are truly the only manufacturing differences between these watches.
As for whether the Swatch is ugly and gawdy. That's a matter of opinion. The black lettered logo with Swiss Made on the Oris appear cheap to me. I find the watch to be extraordinarily plain to the point of being dull. Now if you wanted to call something gawdy, ugly, and loud, I'd go for this overpriced gem: http://www.thewatchlab.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/ER.jpg
In my mind, if Oris spent far more time with detailing, polish, and embellishments, then maybe this price would be reasonable. Alternately, if they were an actual manufacturer of the movement, that would raise its value in my eyes. But having done what appears to be the bare minimum the throw a common 3rd party movement into a plain stainless steel case and putting their name on it, makes this a big pass.
shackledtodesk
You don't like it, you don't like it. We all put value in different things. As for Rolex, I don't like them, haven't seen one that I like. So, instead of having a simple classy logo, you go ahead and pronounce to the world 6 times that you're wearing a swatch. If that's what you thing, go ahead and like it.
Needs a tan leather strap.
The second Oris on Massdrop, in the last couple of months. If you're in the market for an Oris, it might be a good idea to wait and watch this space.
Pretty sure jomashop has a better warranty and it's 10 bucks cheaper
RussB
jomashop does have it with a 2 year warranty and a leather strap instead at $975.
Just a data point for anyone considering this watch... I have this exact same movement in a slightly different Oris watch and it has been the most unreliable movement I've ever experienced. Oris had to exchange my watch three times due to the movement jamming up (time gear train, not spring winding). The third Oris watch is still working, but it looses about 7-8 minutes per day! Crown winding requires much more force than should be necessary. Maybe I'm spoiled with too many watches containing ETA 2824 and SW200 variants and I have too high of expectations, but for the $$$ Oris is charging, even at $1k, I'd personally be cautious.
FreakyFred
Do you know the watch's manufacturing date? Supposedly they improved the mechanism in 2008: https://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=SW_200 This movement specifically seems to range between good and great on Google, but I know nothing about automatic watches to base purchase decisions on (in fact, I'm just looking for a pretty skeleton watch ._.).
DimaG
@DimaG I'm not sure where to check for date of manufacture on my Oris movement. Keep in mind that Oris modifies the movement quite a bit to skeletonize it. I'd get a watch with a SW200-1 movement without a second thought, but modified by Oris is what makes me nervous based on my history with them.
I totally get the part about looking for a nice skeleton watch though, especially in this price range. :-) The Tissot T-Complication Squelette is close in price, but is a more modern skeleton design rather than this more classic (pretty) style.
Had it been with a leather strap I'd jump right on, but struggling to find a lot of live footage on this one.
DimaG
Actually, after some time I came to prefer buying watches with bracelets. The leather strap has some defined lifetime, even when properly oiled, used with deployant clasp, avoiding hot weather, etc. - and more importantly, you can get variety of straps from many vendors. Disregarding some exotics (straps with shaped ends and watches with different lug positions for straps and bracelets), it will look just as good or better than the original.
But obtaining an original bracelet for the watch bought with strap is: - expensive (e.g. 200 EUR for 600 EUR watch, you can get a very very pretty leather strap for that money) - difficult (try buying Seiko Alpinist or Hamilton Khaki bracelet)
And if you go aftermarket, you won't get endlinks matched to the watch case, so it will look way worse than aftermarket leather strap, which can easily be indistinguishable to original leather strap.
It seems like less hassle and better investment to just buy the watch with bracelet outright and swap leather straps, NATOs, etc. as preferred...
You can buy an used Omega Seamaster for this much. I'd go with Omega.
Its a beautiful piece
Wow what a deal
man, if only i had a grand to burn