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beatstreet
9
Oct 28, 2014
I'm already committed, hopefully this drop gets one more at $75 commit then I'll opt to possibly buy at 99 point as my utmost reach. The effect is nice, but I have qualms at the issues I see from half a day troubleshooting with trials.
I've had issues with this on foobar btw, but works ok in JRiver and VLC. Not tried yet with powerdvd and movies. Problem with having this as a virtual card is that I cannot figure how to export decoded DTSMA audio before output of my soundcard (even if virtual like this one) so that this software would use PCM decoded from DTSMA, powerdvd seems to want to decode the core audio I think. The only way I've gotten DTSMA is to bitstream it out from HDMI and then have it decoded to lossless PCM externally.
Also, your Mac trial will not work with Yosemite, in either of my dual boot Macbook Airs. I don't have Mavericks installed and cannot reverse, so IDK maybe it's stable there.
Only the windows side works. Also, one of my Windows machines that is a Macbook Air 2012 stutters with this program in Windows 8.1 bootcamp, doesn't matter Foobar or JRiver. This renders this trial unusable on that machine.
However, I've essentially only go this to work on a 2013 Air in Windows 7 bootcamp for the trial after half a day (4-5 hours of futzing and messing around with it.
For all that work this is worth a $100 program max, simply because it sounds nice. I think the $100 with 2 presets price would be a more reasonable package to consider in the future.
I do want to commend you for creating this program, it sounds great! This is why I'm willing to give you a shot with this drop. I just don't see it as a premium software from my impressions.
nhubley
49
Oct 28, 2014
beatstreetI agree completely with this! If there is no requirement to whip out terminal to get it working, I would have no issues paying $100+ for the program but, with two presets.
The software seems like it's the old software developer situation of I made it back in the early 2000's and its good enough. No need to update it.
I know for a matter of fact developing with Mac OSX you can preview your app/software on newer OS versions well in advance of the release of newer OS's.
This software is something I have been looking for. Sounds amazing easy to use after the hurdle of the initial set up. It bestows a sense of realism to headphones that is unmatched from any setup.
My hat is off to you @Darin_Fong_Audio you have developed a true piece of art here. However, I wish that the price tag would offer me more incentive, have no bugs, and routine updates with larger improvements.
nhubleyHi nhubley,
FYI, Out Of Your Head for Mac was released on September 17th, 2014. It's a little over a month old. So it was not made a long time ago and never updated. If or when I get approval from Apple, then I will provide an update to fix the installation issue. Believe me, I would LOVE to be able to update the installer so you do not have to enter commands in the Terminal. It's not like I don't care, as you suggested.
As far as pricing goes, there are a lot of ways to look at pricing and value. The only other way to get a similar effect as Out Of Your Head is to buy a Smyth Realiser for $2910USD. Those are your two options. (I am not saying that Out Of Your Head is the same as a Realiser. It's just the only other way I know of to get a similar experience.) Yes, you can use other free options like crossfeed but in my opinion, it's not the same.
Pricing also has to do with volume, of course. I admit than we are a very small company and I also wanted to start off slow to make sure I can provide good customer service. I certainly value your opinion as far as pricing goes. Pricing software is a very difficult problem due to SO many factors. Would I sell more if the price were lower? Sure. Would that be better for you? Sure. Would that be better for us? I don't know.
Regardless, I really appreciate your comments. If our software was perfect and bug free, would I sell more? Yes, most definitely. Routine updates? Well, after a little over 5 weeks from releasing version 1.0 of the Mac version, we have had 5 updates so far. I am not saying that's necessarily a good thing, but at least it shows we are striving to improve our software.
Thanks, -Darin Fong
nhubley
49
Oct 29, 2014
Darin_Fong_AudioCheck out Xcode and the development environment. Have you tried working with the App store instead of through a installer package? I love how your product sounds. Yosemite was a well recorded and well documented update from the dev. community. I am looking forward to buying this product from you. And wish you all the best with selling it and distributing it!
beatstreetHi beatstreet, Regarding DTS MA decoding, JRiver does not support decoding DTS MA by default. But I have successfully enabled support by following the instructions for JRiver here: http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Blu-ray (Under the heading "HD Audio") Or in this thread: http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=67401.0
For VLC, try this: http://www.bbroy.com/2013/05/how-to-change-vlc-audio-output-to-5171.html
I believe Cyberlink Power DVD Ultra or Live does support DTS MA decoding. I need to try it again, but at the bottom of this page they list support for DTS MA: http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdvd-ultra/compare-versions_en_US.html
nhubleyWe use XCode for all our Mac development. Eventually we will look into selling via the App store, but initially we just wanted to get the Mac version of Out Of Your Head released as soon as possible. We were months and months behind schedule and we were just focused on getting it to work at all.
I will admit that the release of Yosemite did take us by surprise a little. All our development was done on Mavericks. Again, we were struggling just to get Out Of Your Head working at all on OS X. To be honest, I am thankful that the only issue we have found so far with Yosemite is the code signing of the KEXT (driver) which is more of an administration issue than a technical issue. It's unfortunate there are any issues, but there's nothing I can do about it now except wait for Apple.
nhubley
49
Oct 29, 2014
Darin_Fong_AudioYa, I feel ya I am in a similar situation with a app I am developing for iOS. iOS 6/Yosemite has not necessarily changed the game but, has given us developers one more speed bump in our development cycles.
Again, what you have developed is an amazing product. I don't necessarily agree with the pricing especially around presets. But, hey great support and a very appealing product to any audio lover.
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