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DarkNalel
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Sep 30, 2017
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Why the stretch?! Are all men boys now? I don't want stretch pants, stretch jeans, stretch shorts, stretch anything!
Jeggings are for girls and I am not a girl.
gnarledcoulee
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Sep 30, 2017
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DarkNalelThese were designed with climbers in mind. They also don't stretch very much and are pretty loose fitting. Just enough give for climbers or technical hikers to be able to sprawl comfortably.
Fynd
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Sep 30, 2017
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DarkNalelPolyamide/Nylon is plastic. If you want a 100% nylon pant, you're going to give up some stretch and lose range of motion. The point of adding stretch fibers(spandex/lycra/elastane in this case) is so you can use the pants for doing physically strenuous activities, like running, jumping, sprawling, etc. without the pant material/seams ripping or causing skeletomuscular injury to your body. There is a reason that some gyms ban members from wearing denim jeans - it's so they don't tear muscles when doing squats and other activities where the clothing limits natural biological movement. If you look at most modern jeans, they are introducing stretch fibers in their athletic cut jeans for the same reason - safety and comfort. It's not always to save cost and use a less expensive material than cotton. Give up the "tough guy" bravado when you see the term "stretch" and embrace science. The addition of stretch material here allows you to do more strenuous activities, for longer periods of time, and safer. Also, disregarding the inclusion of a stretch polymer, the pant legs here are loose cut to allow for more leg splay.
DarkNalel
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Oct 2, 2017
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FyndI've worked my whole life in no-stretch pants and never had a problem. People have done "physically strenuous activity" for centuries sans stretchy pants and never had a problem.
Companies that introduce stretch to jeans do so for style. There's a reason you don't find stretch workwear - It sacrifices functionality/durability for style and a bit of comfort.
No jeans at the gym as a safety rule? Eh, that's a stretch at best (where are the rules against poor form and silly exercises?), it's to protect the equipment from rivets and the image of the gym.
So stretch is science and if I don't agree with your argument from authority for stretch then I must disagree with science? Hmmm. Perhaps. Or perhaps stretch is a gimmick and I aint falling for the advertising.
So stretch is science and if I don't agree with your argument from authority for stretch then I must disagree with science? Hmmm. Perhaps. Or perhaps stretch is a gimmick and I aint falling for the advertising.
DarkNalel
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Oct 2, 2017
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gnarledcouleeI guess... I have just never had a problem and then all of a sudden companies are telling us everyone has this problem and plain pants are no where to be found. I can only buy less thermally efficient, less waterproof, less durable, weirdly soft pants for more money.
I just want plain, functional pants. Style is at the bottom of the list below price, brand/made in USA, and does it come in black.
RockyMountains
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Oct 4, 2017
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DarkNalelDo you rockclimb, and if you do, do you still do so in a tweed mountaineering suit like the old timey climbers?
Because these are pants designed for rockclimbing, where there's a definite advantage to being able to lift your feet higher than when walking along pavement.
The pants suck because the materially is too fragile, but the one and only good thing about them is that they stretch.
Because these are pants designed for rockclimbing, where there's a definite advantage to being able to lift your feet higher than when walking along pavement.
The pants suck because the materially is too fragile, but the one and only good thing about them is that they stretch.
DarkNalel
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Oct 4, 2017
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RockyMountainsHaha no tweed mountaineering suit, but I don't wear stretchy stuff either.
I scrape my pants plenty, and I prefer a more functional cut than a normal cut where they just add in stretch material.
To each his own, I'm just sick of companies retiring the old function for the new fashion.
To each his own, I'm just sick of companies retiring the old function for the new fashion.
Motorrad
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Oct 5, 2017
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DarkNalelI don't think anybody
is "retiring the old function for the new fashion". lots of options out there.
Perhaps some Wokes would suit you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adPXDTvADD0
DannyMilks
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Oct 5, 2017
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DarkNalelFjallraven is known for great fitting, well designed and high quality pants. Most of their pants are made of a tough cotton blend that can be waxed for water resistance. They have a cult following for pants, but have lately gotten a lot of attention for their cute Kanken packs. I mention that so you're not confused or dissuaded from the brand if you first only find info on the packs and fashion-y clothing.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fjallraven-karl-trousers
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fjallraven-vidda-pro-pants
DarkNalel
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Oct 5, 2017
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DannyMilksThanks Danny,
These look great! I have requested both that you linked and will probably pick up a pair before they drop. Happy to find someone that still does plain pants.
These look great! I have requested both that you linked and will probably pick up a pair before they drop. Happy to find someone that still does plain pants.
RockyMountains
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Oct 12, 2017
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DannyMilksWhat are the chances of getting some good Schoeller fabric products on Massdrop? I know that a lot of manufacturers are going with their own fabric selections these days, presumably because of cost, but the downside of this is that you don't know what you're getting until you've put it through a season of use.
My Ferrosi shorts were fine for a season before I discovered they're neither all that durable and that they tend to go soggy a bit too easily. I've had proprietary Arcteryx softshell stuff with really weird coatings that triggered allergies. But my two Schoeller pieces (WB400 gloves, Dryskin trousers) have held through 5-10 years of use, including ice climbing and Nepalese peaks.
My Ferrosi shorts were fine for a season before I discovered they're neither all that durable and that they tend to go soggy a bit too easily. I've had proprietary Arcteryx softshell stuff with really weird coatings that triggered allergies. But my two Schoeller pieces (WB400 gloves, Dryskin trousers) have held through 5-10 years of use, including ice climbing and Nepalese peaks.
RockyMountains
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Jul 30, 2018
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RockyMountainsUpdate to my post above. After using my Ferrosi trousers for a week in the Italian alps, they've now got abrasion marks (pilling) from the leg loops of my harness.
OR really dropped the ball when they specified the material for these pants.
OR really dropped the ball when they specified the material for these pants.
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