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Patriot Seeds Heirloom Seed Vault & More

Patriot Seeds Heirloom Seed Vault & More

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This is one of those things that is cool as $h!t but I would never buy/use.
Can anyone recommend another option that has a better Shelf life?
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I’ve got some reading to do! Thanks again for your advice and taking the time to respond. I truly appreciate it. God bless.
Thank you. I was wondering about germination rate as it wasn't mentioned anywhere on the page. It is really a shame their rates are so low but I can't say it's unexpected. When sellers don't mention such things it is only natural to assume they either don't care or don't disclose such information, which in both cases is bad.
If you are outside of the US, do check your local restrictions on importing plant materials. In my case, the UK Animal and Plant Health Agency stopped the package in customs and removed/destroyed several of the seed packets. They do not ship with a Phytosecurity Certificate.
Do these come with a phytochemical certificate for import purposes? Has anyone had any problems getting these through customs in Japan? At the airport they will open each and every pack and visually inspect them, but my impression is that seeds received by mail just get trashed. I don't think that they let corn seed in under any circumstances.
Cloaca
They don't and as a result your national environmental/agricultural agency (in the UK, the National Animal & Plant Health Agency) will stop it in customs and pull out/destroy any offending seeds. This happened to my package and I lost a reasonable number of packets from the pack as a result. My own fault really; I should have thought of it. Of course, check your local laws, as I imagine some countries could take a far more draconian line on this than others...
Buy this, take it to the hilltop, they make you king and you make sweet love to the widow. 😃
Is anybody having problems with some of the seeds? For example I can't seem to get a single peppermint seed to germinate.
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My response was to halfbellstate, who posted: "For example I can't seem to get a single peppermint seed to germinate." Sounds like a germination problem to me! Before you post directions on how to read, you should make sure you're up to speed yourself - who I was responding to is quite clear in my post (it's in a little lozenge or cartouche at the start of my post), and you come off both stupid and needlessly rude.
And yet I'm by no means the only person reporting that germination rates are poor. Clearly someone forgot to inform my allotment that I have no gardening experience!
Non-GMO=lower germinating rate=less yield=low ability against disease and pest=less nutrition... why in the world would I torture myself in a survival situations with those?
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please stop using wiki as a reliable Source. Please give me some publshed peer reviewed paper about your claim. GMO is geneticlily modified organism, that it. Did not indicate any methods to modifyin. Also, i don’t believe the methods of modification is relevant, if you think it is relevan, please back up your claim.
Rebuswind
You clearly don't know what you are talking about. GMO crops are genetically modified to include pesticides like with BT Corn, or resist herbicides like GMO Soy.
That is a very distinct separation from hybridization, which selectively breeds plants to get specific traits like disease resistance. One is natural, the other is not.
There IS a difference between Hybrid and GMO.
Please read up on the subject more.
Any thoughts on the best way to store this?
CrabMcNasty
Best to store seeds like these in a cool, dry, dark location. Some use a fridge. Best kept under 70 degrees.
To anyone making a fussy statement about gmo on this nongmo product, is clearly just prooving a non point. Gmo crops aren't bad for you to eat, it's the glyphasate and 24d they spray on them that kill you from the inside. Non-gmo grains are far more toxic than gmos, do your research.
These seeds are conventionally grown, with fungi, pesti and herbicides, which is what might contribute to them not germinating and having low yields. Monsanto does own the patent on marketmore and beefstake though, but that doesnt mean it has been genetically altered by crisper yet.
russ311
Non-gmo grains are far more toxic than GMOs, LOL. Toxic to what standard? A lot of small levels of stuff considered toxic for you in plant material is actually beneficial for your overall health. Like wolfberries. Yeah, Monsanto has damage control even in these remote forums.
russ311
How are non-GMO grains toxic? The only grain in this kit is corn btw...
The Monsanto Internet Defense Force has arrived. I never knew we had transgenic organisms in 1500 BC
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No I define GMO the way that IT IS DEFINED. You cannot decide to just define it your own way. Selective breeding is choosing a plant for it's better naturally occuring genetics, genetics which are wholly NATURAL. Nothing spliced in a lab. Stop trolling.
Uzuzu
of cause you can define it your own way. you can define all the words in your own way if you clarify the definition before you use it and get a neutral understanding before you talk to other people. that is how language works...that is why I ask you what GMO is for you, so we can do more discussion about it. you did not answer my question at all. I did not ask you how do you define GMO I was asking what is GMO to you. because I don't give a damn how you define it, I only carry what it is to you, because I am doing the discussion with you...not a dictionary...not wiki-pedia...I want to know what is GMO in your opinion. Without your personal definition, I am just attacking a strew-men I assumed... In your statement you replied, you said all genetics being 'wholly NATURAL '...please define 'NATURAL'.. As what I concerned, people, lab, science, are all part of nature...so they are all natural to me. Were you implying people and labs are not a part of nature? so what are we? supernatural?
Are these designed for a particular geography/climate/soil or can they be planted anywhere?
I farm for a living and can say this pack is a good deal, except the varieties are not good choices but cheap choices. You're better off buying covercrop, nappa cabbage, bushbeans sunflowers, root crops (carrot parsnip and beets) and potatoes. There is more calories amongst these, and wider range of grow season. But for $18 this is a deal that will put you through tests of cheap varieties
I just want to buy some seeds. I really do not care what you all pendejos have to say.
I carry this every day.
Hi all you GMO fearing souls, please note that even your non GMO foods are not the same plants our ancestors were eating 15000 years ago. For instance, rice was not big and fluffy, and carrots were not orange, and bananas have seeds. Therefore the oh no we are altering genetics is not a valid argument because it is just an accelerated form of whatever we have been doing for the past few hundred centuries. Sure there are some unethical GMO corporations, but it doesn't mean all GMO is bad. Just like how Google collects your search data and sells it to advertisers doesn't mean all search engines are inherently bad.
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Selective breeding and GMO ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
halfbellstate
Sorry, that's not entirely true. Artificial selection methods - such as have been used for thousands of years - cannot insert a novel gene (such as from a bacterium) into a plant; you are limited to working with the genetic material that is already present within the species. Modern scientific techniques have massively increased our ability to pursue and accelerate conventional breeding methods, and this is very beneficial. However, the ability to insert entirely new gene sequences into a plant, taken from unrelated species or totally different organisms, is new, and is not merely an accelerated form of conventional breeding.
Seems to be a lot of hillbillies in this thread who are upset these aren't GMO. They are called HEIRLOOM SEEDS. You cannot have an heirloom seed that is GMO because it wouldn't be heirloom anymore. Heirlooms are non-hybridized landrace species. The more you know. 
Would buy if it was 100% GMO Guaranteed. I'd much rather have seeds that grow larger, ward off bugs on both the aboveground portions and roots. These terrible hipsters and there "i get all my supplements from rainbows and dandelion sun beams"
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And most gluten intolerance is actually Roundup intolerance. Crops are soakedd in Roundup just before havesting to make it easier.
Jollyriffic
Good luck finding an agricultural mega-corp that will allow you to gather seed from your GMO crop and re-plant it, rather than buying new seed from them again the following year!
why restrict to non-GMO? unless you're susceptible to conspiracy theories, for some of these, you could find better GMO seeds with respect to "hardiness and ability to grow in almost any region". Like drought-resistant seeds for instance...
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yeah I am saying I'd rather see GMO than heirloom vegetables as they should be better suited to fit the "hardiness and ability to grow in almost any region". You obviously don't understand either English or basic logic. Learn.
yooo
I guess because you can't gather seed from most GMO crops and re-plant it.
Can anyone confirm that this is truly not touched by GMO?
Survival seed kit with non-GMO sticker. This should go with carving '100% Vegan' knife.
Sergi0
What's wrong with non GMO? So do you only eat GMO food and reject non GMO options? That's like eating only meat all day because you think vegans are a joke.
halfbellstate
for starters, there are no such thing like "non GMO", cause all modern crops were bred using radiation and ultraviolet exposure with random unpredictable mutations. second, going from 'survival kit seeds' to 'everyday eating' says it all. and last, I'm all pro 100% organic non GMO vegan survival kits. I think that is extremely stupid, but there should be more of them.
How is this "Everyday Carry" ?
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Greengoo
I think the EDC community also includes a lot of prepper/survivalist items. This would fall into those categories.
That comment was made before everyone started to EDC fidget spinners.
I'd be more apt to join this drop if they were gmo, if it was a survival situation I'd rather have plants that need less attention
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Still waiting on links.
I am reluctant to even post into this quagmire, because I know doing so will just make me a target, but in the interest of trying to inject some level of fact checking into this argument, please read the article and citations on Wikipedia on GMO foods in Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_in_Europe
I can honestly say that I do not know what side of this argument I fall on, I am familiar with the talking points on both sides, but the way these personal opinions are being served up, by both sides, with out any links to corroborating facts, journal articles, scientific studies (PRO or CON) makes this entire thread, little more than noise.
I applaud anyone who feels they have found some nugget of truth in life and wants to share it with others, but doing so with barbed comment, and personal slights doesn't help anyone understand or learn from the points you are trying to make.
Share the knowledge you have gained in life but do it in a way that educates, not alienates others. Share the articles and science that have help you form your opinion, so that others may learn. Otherwise an opportunity to learn, will be lost in all the angry rhetoric.
In case I haven't been clear enough, I am not aiming this at either side, but rather, both.
This is cheaper on Amazon if you have prime.
....Still no package delivered?
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Is there an expiry date on them?
nchang
It says they have a shelf life of 5 years.
It's $20 on Amazon and shipping is free with Prime. No real savings here. Good product though.
Architech
good savings if you bundle up and buy the additional packets, those are $15 on Amazon
So for those of us who didn't receive the order and were told that there was an issue being sorted out with the vendor, do we have any idea on how long it could take to sort?  Help was rather vague on timelines.  It would just be nice to know it was being worked on.
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I received tracking info and USPS says it accepted package in NJ on Dec. 12 but there has been no update since. Hope its not just sitting there. Anyone one else have the same situation?
jcoop
Hey @jcoop - I see the same thing when tracking your package, but hopefully there is an update soon for you. I ordered these as well and mine should arrive tomorrow. Keep us posted if you don't see movement when tracking...!
KatieA
Package arrived today! Tracking went from accepted in NJ to local Post Office. Relief.