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The Pentax KP digital camera may be compact, but it’s chock-full of advanced features. It has a high-performance optical viewfinder and a high sensitivity of ISO 819200 for shooting in low light Read More

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fakuryu
13
May 17, 2017
Somewhat unbelievable that no one is taking advantage of this! The KP is the best APSC DSLR in the market right now in terms of lowlight capability and image quality, plus that DA25 f2.8 Macro Limited is so sharp and has character.
fakuryu
13
Feb 13, 2019
Its not about the high ISO, the KP's output is simply cleaner at any equivalent ISO (APSC) because it has a built in Image Acceleration unit. Even at a modest ISO1600 shows better detail than its peers and is already almost or is also matching a FF camera. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=pentax_kp&attr13_1=sony_a6300&attr13_2=sony_a7ii&attr13_3=fujifilm_xt3&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=1600&attr16_1=1600&attr16_2=1600&attr16_3=1600&attr171_1=1&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.8970131200246877&y=0.18439830804576898


Party_Hard
0
Feb 25, 2019
fakuryu"built in Image Acceleration uni" is a name of way of implementing the technology (digital noise reduction) known for decades. Typically it is done on the main processor and was already used since K10D and by other OEMs as well but Pentax decided to make it a different chip. There are three problems with this chip:
  • it does nothing what can't be done with raw file developer. Specifically, it seems to apply mostly colour noise reduction as Fujifilm does for years already and Fujifilm does it even more aggressively.
  • it cannot be disabled and it's effect cannot be (easily) reversed
  • it reduces image detail (in this case: only slightly) as ANY existing random noise reduction algorithm
Here is comparison between K-1 which does not have it and K-1 II which has similar chip. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=pentax_k1&attr13_1=pentax_k1ii&attr13_2=sony_a7ii&attr13_3=fujifilm_xt3&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=1600&attr16_1=1600&attr16_2=1600&attr16_3=1600&attr126_0=1&attr126_1=1&attr171_1=1&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.31430476455080064&y=0.6849277254716402 Look at the purple spool. You can see that K-1 has more noise and slightly better detail. Then look at how D7200 has less colour noise (tens of pixels large green and purple blobs in this case) than KP even without noise reduction. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=nikon_d7200&attr13_1=pentax_kp&attr13_2=pentax_kp&attr13_3=fujifilm_xt3&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=3200&attr16_1=3200&attr16_2=3200&attr16_3=3200&attr126_0=1&attr126_1=1&attr171_1=1&normalization=full&widget=1&x=0.34696618373376736&y=-0.08711197526986966


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mass_sean
67
May 15, 2017
Wow. people are missing out on a good deal here...
MrBean
121
May 12, 2017
Does anyone know what all of the dials on this camera do? I understand the shooting mode dial, the front-right dial, and the back-right dial. But what about the two top dials on the right side?
mass_sean
67
May 12, 2017
MrBeanThe top right dial is for entering certain modes on your camera (like continuous shooting or HDR) the lower right dial is for modifying those modes once entered. I'm still learning the camera but I am pretty sure that's correct going from memory.
kpinkert
0
Jun 17, 2017
MrBeanYou can download the user manual for this camera and learn what everything does. Free... http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/download_manual.html
mass_sean
67
May 12, 2017
Kinda wish I had waited to buy the KP now. I could have had a limited lens LOL
I'm still learning it's ins and outs but I like this camera very much so far.
Leoi
23
May 12, 2017
If someone is interested in knowing the image quality of this camera, just check the stills comparison tool on dpreview.com; it is certainly the best of APS-C options, at least in RAW. A friend has one, so I've confirmed.
mass_sean
67
May 13, 2017
All fair points, I just don't think Canon and Nikon will pay the same price for essentially doing the same thing.
Leoi
23
May 13, 2017
mass_seanNo they won't :D
idarerick
167
May 9, 2017
These were the prices for the body only as of last week (Week of 4/30).
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I notice the prices have changed since then. As of now, the price is $1499.99 on MD.
One thing I will mention in comparison is that the Pentax 35mm DA L f/2.4 Lens at B&H (yes it's a plastic quality vs the stronger 35mm DA) seems to offer the better picture quality (from scouring online forums) for more than half the price. Otherwise, as @Casmus mentioned, B&H offers the lenses separately for a little bit more, but MD does have the lower price and many different options.
However, if you are purchasing this bundle in California, it is definitely the cheaper route to go through the B&H site since MD has sales tax for shipping to California. B&H (located in New Jersey) charges no sales tax, and the price difference and B&H perks which include shorter shipping times makes purchasing this MD bundle in California not worth it. Otherwise, if you're in any other part of the US, this MD bundle is the more cost-effective bundle.
MD also offers the battery grip for $30 cheaper than B&H does. But if you bundle this on top of the MD bundle, then B&H is the way to go (edit: for California residents only; see above paragraph). B&H overall would be about $3 cheaper than this MD bundle if you're looking for the D-BG7 battery grip to go with it. Everything about B&H would make it the superior choice and the free shipping and free returns make it the faster and cost-effective choice to go. The only way that the MD bundle (w/ the battery grip) would be worth it if you are purchasing this MD bundle anywhere else.
idarerick
167
May 10, 2017
@JaySun
Also, yes I may have been a little hasty in my conclusion. I meant to say that the prices I have posted were for the body only, and that I acknowledge that the Massdrop price of $1499.99 is for the bundle (including one of the three choices for a lens). I apologize for being unclear myself, but I assure you that I had no confusion myself on this bundle and that my analysis of the battery grip bundle still stands (with B&H having the more aggressive price for California residents).
idarerick
167
May 10, 2017
@JaySun
Our company only collects shelf and net price, so we do not include tax data. Our data is nationally representative, so we do not reflect regional sales or changes in prices. We do have services for printers in the UK and EU however.
Thank you for clarifying. That falls in line with what I researched when I looked up tax information on the Massdrop page.
Also, I did click "join drop" to determine the total price before commenting, hence why I determined that B&H is the advantageous route to go for California residents only. It appears that when I posted I did not indicate that it was for California residents only, hence why I sought to clarify.
Casmus
2
May 9, 2017
You can get this for just $91 more from B&H Photo's site ($65 more with the 70mm). They have other bundles with zoom lenses that are much less than this (and a bundle with 40mm lens for $1200). Free shipping and you get $ back in loyalty points to spend later. Plus, and this is BIG for me, you can return it to B&H if you don't like it (unlike Massdrop). Some things I like to buy on this site, but not photo equipment. The deals aren't that great and you cannot return anything it it's not to your liking. Just my 2 cents.
Jaysun
1855
May 9, 2017
CasmusThat is a great point!
You can save $91 on Massdrop with free shipping if you know you want this camera.
What camera are you shooting with?
Casmus
2
May 9, 2017
JaysunI have a few cameras I use. Leica M-P(TYP 240), Fujifilm X100F, Fujifilm Xt-1, and Sony A7 RII. I have been using the Sony and X100F mostly, as of late. My recommendation for someone wanting a APS-C size sensor is to go with Fujifilm. Both of mine are absolutely stellar. Can't go wrong with an Xt! My opinion... I shop for my camera gear mostly at BH because of their excellent return policy and fast free shipping. Best...
blnswamy
7
May 9, 2017
Hi Guys, what is the crop factor for this camera.
jimosphere
74
May 9, 2017
blnswamyLooks like it has the same Pentax variety APS-C sensor as the K-3 etc. So it's likely to be 1.53x.
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"built in Image Acceleration uni" is a name of way of implementing the technology (digital noise reduction) known for decades. Typically it is done on the main processor and was already used since K10D and by other OEMs as well but Pentax decided to make it a different chip. There are three problems with this chip: it does nothing what can't be done with raw file developer. Specifically, it seems to apply mostly colour noise reduction as Fujifilm does for years already and Fujifilm does it even more aggressively. it cannot be disabled and it's effect cannot be (easily) reversed it reduces image detail (in this case: only slightly) as ANY existing random noise reduction algorithm Here is comparison between K-1 which does not have it and K-1 II which has similar chip. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=pentax_k1&attr13_1=pentax_k1ii&attr13_2=sony_a7ii&attr13_3=fujifilm_xt3&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=1600&attr16_1=1600&attr16_2=1600&attr16_3=1600&attr126_0=1&attr126_1=1&attr171_1=1&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.31430476455080064&y=0.6849277254716402 Look at the purple spool. You can see that K-1 has more noise and slightly better detail. Then look at how D7200 has less colour noise (tens of pixels large green and purple blobs in this case) than KP even without noise reduction. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=nikon_d7200&attr13_1=pentax_kp&attr13_2=pentax_kp&attr13_3=fujifilm_xt3&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=3200&attr16_1=3200&attr16_2=3200&attr16_3=3200&attr126_0=1&attr126_1=1&attr171_1=1&normalization=full&widget=1&x=0.34696618373376736&y=-0.08711197526986966
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