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ebaydan777
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Mar 30, 2016
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Which Switches did everyone get? Honestly cant decide between Cherry Blues/Clears/Greens. I have Blues and Greens on Pok3r's and like the blues quite a lot, greens too. Ordered the VA68M in Clears but wont get in a while. Hmmmm
Mar 30, 2016
crers
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Mar 30, 2016
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ebaydan777I ordered Zealios for the sake of curiosity, I like typing on my current cherry Browns most of the time and i like the bump of Clears more but they're a bit heavy for my taste so hopefully the Zealios is in between.
Mar 30, 2016
ebaydan777
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Mar 30, 2016
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crersDo the Cherry MX Only caps fit the zealios? Trying to get the keycaps in the photo and I believe those are OEM cherry only?
Mar 30, 2016
Ephemeral
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Mar 30, 2016
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ebaydan777Yes. The ones in the photo are the PBT OEM caps.
Mar 30, 2016
ebaydan777
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Mar 30, 2016
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Ephemeralroger, and theyll fit zealios correct as well as cherry's
Mar 30, 2016
l2yuk3n
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Mar 30, 2016
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ebaydan777I have Cherry browns on my Quickfire TK at home, which I find a bit too light and non-tactile (though I still enjoy gaming on them! :)). I got this first because my friend recommended browns for decent gaming/typing, while not being too noisy.
I have a Pok3r with Cherry clears at work, and it's pretty close to what I'm looking for in a keyboard. Still pretty quiet, decently stiff (I'm a heavy typer), and good tactile bump. I think I personally want something between brown and clear but closer to clear.
I have the CM switch tester and didn't really like the clicky sound of the blues, and felt like it was still too soft a switch for my heavy hands. The green, on the other hand, sounded and felt pretty good. Since I'm mostly going to use the Planck for typing heavy tasks, and I'm a pretty big fan of my MX clears (similar weight to MX green), I ended up getting MX Greens for the Planck. Always fun to have a clicky keyboard around for annoying housemates and/or coworkers ;).
Lastly, because of my preference for the tactile (quiet) switches in general, I recently purchased a bunch of 67g (and a handful of 78g) Zealios to try. These are supposed to be the holy grail of tactile, so...if I love them, I might swap them with the greens in my Planck :).
Obviously my experiences/likes probably won't mirror yours, but hopefully the path I've taken helps you with your decisions!
Mar 30, 2016
ebaydan777
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Mar 30, 2016
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l2yuk3nThank you so much for this, great explanation!!
I am torn between the Zealios and the cherrys now. I see so many posts...I use this at school but the noise isnt THAT big a deal. Just want something that wont get too tiresome, blue was good for this. Haven't had a chance to really try clears yet so im pretty stuck :(
Mar 30, 2016
ebaydan777
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Mar 30, 2016
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Ephemeralor is it truly cherry only fit
Mar 30, 2016
l2yuk3n
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Mar 30, 2016
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ebaydan777While I love my clears, I fully understand what people mean when they say it's "fatiguing," so if you very much like the blue/red/brown tier of switches from a typing standpoint, you...may not be super happy with clears (though you may be very happy with zealios based on the interwebs. And the internet is never wrong...)
My issue with the brown is that they're just too light for me, and the tactile bump is definitely not very pronounced (although still more present than linear switches :P).
Mar 30, 2016
l2yuk3n
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ebaydan777should fit the zealios. Based on everything mentioned about Zealios, the stem is basically the same cross-shape, but it's slightly smaller, so it won't be as tight as the MX clear stem (which, from my experience, is one of the hardest stems to get keycaps off of).
Mar 30, 2016
apertur
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Mar 31, 2016
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l2yuk3nYou say "swap them with the greens". Is it easy to changes all the switches after being soldered on the board? Will is be likely to damage the board during the process? Is it just desoldering and popping each one off and replacing it all? No wiring involved? (Sorry for the questions - This would be my first DIY kb) I've tried MX Blues and Browns and I like Browns much more for typing and gaming. But I ordered my Planck with my first MX Clears. Not sure if it's the wise thing to do... but I did it anyway after some research! Apparently it's like the heavier Brown and like the non-clicky version of Blue? I'd love to hear your advice. Thanks so much.
Mar 31, 2016
l2yuk3n
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Mar 31, 2016
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aperturWith PCB keyboards, it's pretty easy to solder switches on. to SWAP switches, it's not as easy, but you have the right idea. you have to physically desolder every switch, then you can remove it from the PCB and swap a new one. There's no special wiring involved since the PCB takes care of that. You can damage the board if you're not careful, but with proper tools and technique the risk would be low.
Cherry MX switches tend to fall into three categories. Linear (quiet, no bump/feedback feeling at actuation point), Tactile (quiet, but has a feedback bump at actuation point), and Clicky (tactile, with a different piece that makes a click sound when you cross the actuation point). The Blue is Clicky and the Brown is Tactile, at close to the same "weight" to actuate. The MX Clear is tactile, so it is closer to a Brown than a Blue, but it has a stronger spring inside, so it requires more force to actuate. So, typically, if you think your Brown switch is too easy to press, but you like that there's a bump feeling that indicates when you have pressed the switch, then the Clears are usually a good place to go. The biggest complaint I read about for MX Clear is that the bottom-out force (force required to push the key all the way down so that it cant go any further down) is quite high, which can cause fatigue when typing for a long time. I think I have a heavy hand for typing, so this doesn't bother me :).
MX Clear is more like a tactile (non-clicky) MX Green, than MX Blue. MX Green is a higher-force MX Blue.
I personally prefer MX Clear, but I also ordered my first MX Clear keyboard blind, after only trying Brown and Blue keyboards. The best way to figure out your own preferences is to try typing on a keyboard yourself. Ideally if you can try a friend's keyboard, then you don't have to shell out money for something you might hate, but I bit the bullet and got lucky :D
Hope this helps!
Mar 31, 2016
apertur
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l2yuk3nThis helped a lot Thanks!!! I just researched some more on Reddit and realised what put me off the the "hand-wiring" versions vs PCB. I didn't know they were different. PCB is much more approachable for me.
So I guess I'm in the same situation as you! I started with Blues, now Brown and buying Clears blindly. I don't mind the lightness of the Browns but I want a bigger tactile bump. I don't think I'll be bottoming out that often as I don't do so with my Browns at the moment. I'll stick with my Clear option I think after your comment!
Mar 31, 2016
Mario.Paul
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Mar 31, 2016
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aperturA few things. I've used MX reds, blues and now clears with my current Planck. I could not be happier, reds are ninja silent but don't like them for typing. Blues are the inverse, loud as high school kids but accurate for typing. Clears are the perfect middle ground IMO. I also chose grid because I like symmetry, and I also have an extra key for an extra modifier or a delete key (still thinking ). It has an unforgiving learning curve but I'm finally getting used to it and I love my Planck to bits. I'm debating getting another one to keep one at home and another one for on the go. Good luck you will love your keyboard and forgive any typos (cellphone).
Mar 31, 2016
apertur
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Mario.PaulThanks for your input! I am quite happy with my choice at the moment with the Clears. I'm also off the fence now for grid vs MIT because after drawing out a true to size sketch... My right thumb would not suit the 2u centered space bar. My right thumb is resting on the down button I drew...
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Thanks again for your heads up. I noticed it already by "pretend typing" on the sketch. Non staggered will take some getting used to! Can't wait to get this though!
Mar 31, 2016
TWD-Industries
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Apr 3, 2016
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l2yuk3nAs a slight correction, and you might need to check with Jack, but if they're sending his universal plate, it's cut to allow mounted switch disassembly, so you could to a stem swap without desoldering
EDIT: description indicates the non universal plate, I wish that was an option
Apr 3, 2016
iLoveTomb3rY
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Apr 3, 2016
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TWD-IndustriesThe plates that are on offer ARE allowing mounted switch disassembly. Due to the simple fact that they are ALPS switch compatible holes.
Apr 3, 2016
iLoveTomb3rY
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aperturSo you're getting the GRID option, right ?
Apr 3, 2016
apertur
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Apr 3, 2016
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iLoveTomb3rYYes I am going with grid.
Apr 3, 2016
iLoveTomb3rY
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aperturNice ! Me to!
Apr 3, 2016
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