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KITTY
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Feb 9, 2018
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ld100I feel you. I think cables should be cheaper, but there's not that many cable companies out there that makes "fancy" or custom looking ones like these for IEMs or Headphones. It might be some sort of a placebo effect, but I can guarantee you that cables does make a difference when it comes to quality of the sound and connectivity. I don't know if you're an audiophile, but sometimes I just think these as accessories for your IEMs. They look good and who knows, some people might use it as fashion sense to match with their clothes or to simply upgrade their gear. It's a personal hobby. There's a lot of things out there that's unnecessarily expensive... I mean people buy $1,000 headphones and amplifiers... but they're way too expensive for any consumer... I think my $500 headphones will suffice and for others they're fine with their $15 earbuds from their local convenient store.
asigal
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Feb 10, 2018
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KITTYThere's actually a ton. I've been reviewing IEMs for two years and have covered over 100 individual products with my own two ears. I've tested cables from six cable makers, including Plussound. I am a big fan of the construction quality and aesthetic factors of their products, but I can conclusively say that these cables make absolutely no difference in sound when compared to any other reasonable cable (even the $5 ones off Ali Express!).
The reason these cost so much is simply because there are enough people out there willing to pay the price. I know that I would drop some good money for a sexy looking cable if I had it.
The reason these cost so much is simply because there are enough people out there willing to pay the price. I know that I would drop some good money for a sexy looking cable if I had it.
asigal
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Feb 10, 2018
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ld100It looks fancy though.
Do you happen to own an iPhone or an Apple product? If so, how could you possibly justify the price? There's a huge number of products out there that offer better performance and functionality for far less money. And yet the iPhone is the most popular brand of phone in the world. Why is this? Because it looks fancy.
To be honest, I'd probably pay $100 for a really well built cable that looked fancy and was aesthetically complementary to my TOTL IEM if I had the money laying around. But currently I don't so oh well. Other people buying these cables doesn't negatively affect me in any way, and it doesn't affect you in any way either.
Do you happen to own an iPhone or an Apple product? If so, how could you possibly justify the price? There's a huge number of products out there that offer better performance and functionality for far less money. And yet the iPhone is the most popular brand of phone in the world. Why is this? Because it looks fancy.
To be honest, I'd probably pay $100 for a really well built cable that looked fancy and was aesthetically complementary to my TOTL IEM if I had the money laying around. But currently I don't so oh well. Other people buying these cables doesn't negatively affect me in any way, and it doesn't affect you in any way either.
ld100
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Feb 10, 2018
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asigalI can justify the price of an apple product based on benefit I get from it. It is a pioneering product with very high quality and enormous amount of research and development put into it. I do recall paying a $1000 for Motorola Startek and other phone or two. I am not sure why Apple price seems so outrageous to people. It certainly not the first phone that retails at $1000 range. It is a small well designed computer that is clearly a market leader. Yes there is Samsung this and that. But it is hard to argue iPhone's unique position in the market... And it starts at $400 and goes to $1300 for top model... So why exactly it is overpriced? People pay for desktop and laptop computers $1000 or $2000 for decades and any iPhone is pretty much a small powerful computer.
Now we go back to cables. These are cables. There was not millions or billions spent on research and development. It is a cable that looks very average. Even if it is sprinkled with silver dust and some other magic substance to make waves travel faster, slower, better, straighter, than any other cable on the earth it is still cable. As a cable it gives a very questionable benefit over stock cable or cheaper $20 alternative cable from Amazon. I think it looks below average. I don't like the connectors and clear wire will become dirty soon. And again what exactly are the benefits of this cable that makes it worth the price of Massdrop headphones and stock cable that this cable is designed for...
Now we go back to cables. These are cables. There was not millions or billions spent on research and development. It is a cable that looks very average. Even if it is sprinkled with silver dust and some other magic substance to make waves travel faster, slower, better, straighter, than any other cable on the earth it is still cable. As a cable it gives a very questionable benefit over stock cable or cheaper $20 alternative cable from Amazon. I think it looks below average. I don't like the connectors and clear wire will become dirty soon. And again what exactly are the benefits of this cable that makes it worth the price of Massdrop headphones and stock cable that this cable is designed for...
ld100
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Feb 10, 2018
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KITTYIt is hard to find nice diamonds. They are very rare and not easily available. It is a supply and demand. I don't see how diamonds are similar to cables. From finding them to making them look beautiful lots of blood, sweat and tears goes into them. Let's be honest about this... What is a cost of manufacturing cables for someone like Monster cable? It is really higher than Monoprice? I bet it is even lower. So what makes cables $200 expensive? I can understand higher prices if there is a silver wire or gold plated connector involved... But still that would not bring cables into $200-$1000 territory. Cables is a very dirty business where consumers get seriously taken for a ride. I still have not seen a real proof that cables make any difference in sound quality, but I often feel like replacing cables myself as I do not like stock cables... But I personally can't justify the prices cable companies are asking. So maybe it takes a bit more to create nice packaging and nicer looking wire is a bit more expensive. So instead of Monoprice $10 a nice cable can be $25... Or $40... But how does it get to $300...
asigal
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Feb 11, 2018
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ld100It's really not that hard to find nice diamonds. In fact they are pretty common, its just that the company that mines most of them and has monopolies on the areas where you can find them restricts supply drastically. Furthermore, there is a huge brand markup on most diamonds that is over 300%. Look into it, the diamond industry is quite analogous to Apple's industry.
Also, the cheapest current-gen iPhone is $700. That's for the base model iPhone 8. If you want a base model iPhone X that's going to run you $1000. I'm guessing that my point struck a cord in you! My whole point was that from my perspective these devices are a waste of money since you can beat them in longevity and functionality for half the price (see any Android flagship sold in 2017). The Essential phone was released before the iPhone X and can often times be found for $300 online. That's over 66% cheaper than a base model iPhone X, and the Essential phone comes with 128Gb of storage. So then by your logic no one should ever buy the iPhone X! But even more than that, your logic foots the X as an even worse option since by switching from the Essential phone, which is cheaper, to the X you *loose* functionality. That would be like switching from a perfectly working cable to one that only works in the left channel.
You're fanboyism is clouding your judgement. Just let people enjoy their fancy things and they will let you enjoy yours.
Also, the cheapest current-gen iPhone is $700. That's for the base model iPhone 8. If you want a base model iPhone X that's going to run you $1000. I'm guessing that my point struck a cord in you! My whole point was that from my perspective these devices are a waste of money since you can beat them in longevity and functionality for half the price (see any Android flagship sold in 2017). The Essential phone was released before the iPhone X and can often times be found for $300 online. That's over 66% cheaper than a base model iPhone X, and the Essential phone comes with 128Gb of storage. So then by your logic no one should ever buy the iPhone X! But even more than that, your logic foots the X as an even worse option since by switching from the Essential phone, which is cheaper, to the X you *loose* functionality. That would be like switching from a perfectly working cable to one that only works in the left channel.
You're fanboyism is clouding your judgement. Just let people enjoy their fancy things and they will let you enjoy yours.
ld100
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Feb 11, 2018
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asigalI might like apple products, but you can't argue that there is way more substance in iPhone than in a set of cables... Personally I never found any diamonds... I think it is pretty hard to find them. I am not sure what makes you think that diamonds are easily found... Go find them. But anyway we talking about cables. I don't deny enjoyment of cables to anyone. I just question high prices...
asigal
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Feb 11, 2018
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ld100Diamonds are just as easily found as fancy braided cables are made.
And I never said that cables provide as much functionality as an iPhone, I was merely stating that your logic was inconsistent. You say that these cables are bad because they are expensive and don't add more functionality than a regular cable. I was merely pointing out that by that logic iPhones and Apple products as a whole would be bad since they are expensive and have *less* functionality than many lower priced Android phones.
Honestly I agree with you: it's a bit insane to spend so much on a cable. But I disagree with the idea that they should dissappear since they aren't harming anyone by existing. They simply sell to a market created by the demand of idiots.
And I never said that cables provide as much functionality as an iPhone, I was merely stating that your logic was inconsistent. You say that these cables are bad because they are expensive and don't add more functionality than a regular cable. I was merely pointing out that by that logic iPhones and Apple products as a whole would be bad since they are expensive and have *less* functionality than many lower priced Android phones.
Honestly I agree with you: it's a bit insane to spend so much on a cable. But I disagree with the idea that they should dissappear since they aren't harming anyone by existing. They simply sell to a market created by the demand of idiots.
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