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fjrabon
456
Feb 28, 2017
I'm assuming the date isn't perpetual? After getting used to this on my lowly citizen, I find that I simply can't go back to non-perpetual, no matter how good looking the watch (and I do find this watch very good looking).
dholik8503
Feb 28, 2017
fjrabonThis watch uses a Valjoux 7750 movement (a very standard chrono movement--which I think comes in various grades), and none of my 7750 watches have a perpetual calendar. For a perpetual calendar to be of any use on a mechanical watch, the watch would have to be wound all the time, either by daily wear and/or using a winder. Not sure if your Citizen is mechanical or quartz, it's alot easier to implement a perpetual calendar on a quartz movement. Mechanical perpetual calendar complications may be had--they just cost a lot more money than I can afford :) BTW, Citizen makes very nice watches, I wouldn't call them lowly at all. Hope that helps.
Royalpig180
107
Feb 28, 2017
fjrabonTo echo what's already been said, perpetual calendars on mechanical watches do exist, but you're usually going to be getting close to 5 figures for that sort of complication. The 7750 is a great movement though, very well respected and has stood the test of time.
fjrabon
456
Feb 28, 2017
dholik8503yeah, as far as I know all Citizen watches are Japanese quartz movement. It's solar powered. Didn't realize mechanical perpetual was so hard to do, thanks for the info. That explains a lot of my difficult in finding my next watch upgrade, as most of the higher end watches that would be a true upgrade for me are mechanical. I've been looking for: 100m (or more) waterproof Perpetual day and date some form of automatic (solar, kinetic, etc) sapphire titanium medium proportion a similar type style/aesthetic to a Tag Heuer Carrera Calibre 5
Putting that all together, with a budget sub $2000 hasn't been particularly easy, but anything short of all that and I feel like I will just stick with my https://www.amazon.com/Citizen-BL5250-02L-Titanium-Eco-Drive-Leather/dp/B000EQS0WK/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1488303933&sr=8-5&keywords=citizen+titanium Which is most everything I want, except it's a little thick, and doesn't have a day complication.
dholik8503
Feb 28, 2017
fjrabonThe usual suspects---TAG, Tudor, Rolex, Omega--all make mechanical/automatic titanium watches from a quick search, prices were $4K-$20K, without perpetual calendar. It's hard to go wrong with the big names, that's not to say there are other brands out there, these are just obvious. To stay within a $2k budget, check the used markets (a good site is www.chrono24.com). Enjoy!
dholik8503
Feb 28, 2017
fjrabonYou have excellent taste! Yep, if you go to Geneva, and you have the $$$, you can specify anything you want and they will build it, but cash up front. Good luck with your search. There are some nice titanium TAGs out there, since you like that design. I like TAGs, they're good values in general.
ensulyn
55
Feb 28, 2017
fjrabonI..... may end up buying that. Would have liked a metal band, and maybe kinetic but damn, that's a good looking watch. Always had a soft spot for citizen.
fjrabon
456
Feb 28, 2017
ensulynThey make a metal band version of that watch.
ensulyn
55
Feb 28, 2017
fjrabonThanks, turns out its hideous with a metal band. The leather makes it really impressive looking. I'm going to have to look around a bit more.
fjrabon
456
Feb 28, 2017
ensulynYeah, I like it a lot with a black leather band with white stitching. Not quite my ideal watch, but as close as I've been able to find so far and dirt cheap. To upgrade into something that hits all my personal requirements and feels like a true upgrade has been consistently in the $5000-10,000 range.