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OrCohen
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Aug 6, 2017
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Would this work to heat a tent from the inside in -5 degrees Celsius? Any idea on how this will compare to the BRS-55 lantern which has no mantle? (I'm sure the light will be dimmer, but I'm specifically interested in heating)
Aug 6, 2017
ChicagoWay
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Aug 7, 2017
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OrCohenIt's not recommended to use an open flame heat source such as this inside a tent. People have died doing such. Look down in the comments someone posted a news article. In addition the manufacture does not recommend inside tent use.
Aug 7, 2017
OrCohen
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Aug 7, 2017
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ChicagoWayThe article is fake news And manufacturer don't recommend it because of liability issues https://backpackinglight.com/cooking-in-a-tent-caffin/
Aug 7, 2017
ChicagoWay
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OrCohenYeah CO never killed anyone. You're welcome to become part of fake news. We're not talking about cooking. People fall asleep and die. I've see it while a LEO in Chicago.
Aug 7, 2017
OrCohen
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Aug 7, 2017
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ChicagoWayThat's not what I said The article is anecdotal, not providing any details, and we're actually told that the father was found with burns from a lighting So beside that occasion and some people who died when they let a barbecue grill into a sealed tent, there are no known cases of people who died from having a stove inside their tent
If you'd like to contribute, you are welcome to answer my question I will be in charge of my own safety
Aug 7, 2017
ChicagoWay
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Aug 7, 2017
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OrCohenIt's purely a matter of physics and chemistry. Tighter tents will not allow CO to escape. it was know back in 2015 that the father and some probably died of CO. I'm going to take the fake news report for its word that a test was conducted to determine CO levels. Easy test do to. But hey, some more fake news from NPR about tests conducted on tents. http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2013/08/25/214925124/the-same-tents-that-seal-storms-out-can-seal-carbon-monoxide-in Fake news from the CDC. Cases 1-4 might be new to you. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4832a1.htm Fake news from the CSPB. https://www.cpsc.gov/Global/Safety%20Education/Sports%20and%20Recreation/CampingEquipmentPortableHeaterSafetyAlert.pdf Oh, btw, glad you like backing light. Here is a fake discussion about the Aspen incident. https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/105556/
Sorry going to have to take the word of the coroner over the mortician for cause of death. Like I say do what you want. Pretty sure all news stories are antidotal.
Aug 7, 2017
OrCohen
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ChicagoWay"the sheriff’s office said there was evidence to suggest carbon monoxide poisoning as a possible cause of death, as well as lightning."
Did you even read it?
Aug 7, 2017
ChicagoWay
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OrCohenSheriff does not determine cod. Also did YOU even read the backpacking light discussion or for that matter any of the other links I supplied? this story was all over the news at the time. For one who claims to have a grasp of fake news you should know more about the diferent roles public officials fill.
Aug 7, 2017
OrCohen
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ChicagoWayThis getting into tones I don't like I was asking for opinion on the product only
Aug 7, 2017
seenypaul
Aug 7, 2017
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OrCohenThis whole conversation seems pretty whacked, but I'll try to give some semblance of an answer anyway. From what I can tell with a quick Internet search, the BRS-55 lantern you mention has a listed gas consumption rate of 6g/h. I could find no meaningful comparison rate for the Primus Micron lantern. That would have been the best way to match up the energy converted for each. You give no indication of the type or size of tent you are referencing, or how or where it would be pitched or the degree of wind protection. Also no information on what temperature you are trying to heat it to from that starting value of -5°C, nor what nor how many other heat sources (read as human bodies) are in there. The Steel Micron lantern is pretty bright because it is more efficient at converting some of the energy to visible spectrum rather than as heavily in the infrared than a simple flame such as the BRS-55 does. But probably none of this is really going to help you anyway. Maybe buy both and perform the comparison yourself? Just don't poison yourself in the process. EDIT: I found a claim that the Primus lantern runs 6-12 hours on a 220g canister. That's 3 to 6 times the flow rate mentioned for the BRS-55, so probably a lot more heat along with the light.
Aug 7, 2017
OrCohen
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seenypaulI'm not looking for an accurate number, just couldn't find any word about the heating capacity other then "the compact Micron Lantern provides the light and warmth you need without taking up much space"
Thanks anyway
Aug 7, 2017
seenypaul
Aug 7, 2017
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OrCohenSee my edit.
Aug 7, 2017
OrCohen
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Aug 7, 2017
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seenypaulThat's interesting I'll try to find a more accurate number for the BRS It has an adjustment valve, so maybe it can be less "economic"
Aug 7, 2017
ChicagoWay
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OrCohenWell I initially gave my answer which was I would suggest you not use it for heating in an enclosed space and drop it at that.
Aug 7, 2017
seenypaul
Aug 7, 2017
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OrCohenOr you could use a sleep system rated below -5°C... You can accomplish a lot of winter camping comfort with the right tent (and tent size), the right clothing, the right sleep system, and the right food. By the way, jacking up that BRS from what it looks like with a flame in photos to 3 or 6 times as much is starting to sound a lot like a butane blowtorch - or maybe just a flaming tent.
Aug 7, 2017
OrCohen
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seenypaulYeah, I cant tell exactly how large the flame will be The primus lantern seem to have a more enclosed flame
And I want to use it before I got to sleep, I do have the right sleep system
Aug 7, 2017
speedfiend
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Dec 8, 2017
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OrCohenReally depend on the size of your tent. But a lamp of this size isn't going to put out enough heat to warm up anything larger than a compact 1 person tent. I usually fire up several Coleman 200a for lighting and heat when I go car camping in the winter, but we use a family tent large enough for 6 cots. Regarding the CO poisoning issue, I usually carry a portable CO detector with me when I have open flame inside the tent. Just can never be too careful when camping with the family.
Dec 8, 2017
OrCohen
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Dec 8, 2017
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speedfiendI got a different product that is basically a gas candle. It doesn't warm up anything then my hands when I put them over it, but it'll be enough to make me a bit more comfortable at cold nights before going to sleep. I don't worry about CO poisoning since it's too weak, I'll be using it for less than an hour, and in a two layer tent.
Dec 8, 2017
Tdominguez
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Nov 4, 2018
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speedfiendWhat portable CO detector do you have?
Nov 4, 2018
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