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Rab Flashpoint 2 Jacket

Rab Flashpoint 2 Jacket

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Does the jacket comes with hands pockets? Or chest pocket only, both?
Yanex
Sorry for the confusion - this drop is for the Flashpoint 2 Jacket, that comes with hand pockets. The older version had the chest pocket. I've had our copy updated to reflect the correct information.
How does this jacket compared to the Rab Muztag? From what i can see the Muztag is heaver, and have more pockets? What is the difference between 3L Pertex Shield+ and 3L eVent DVStorm?
Im looking for an ultralight jacket suitable for commuter cycling, ive had a couple of heavier ones in the past but need something thats going to hold up well to regular use with a bag too, will this be ok or more suited to occasional use?
I love Rab, but i have no complaints about my Helium II. Helium II is a little bit lighter (6.5ozvs7.0oz) and cheaper (100vs160). I would probably buy the Rab if I had no monetary restriction just cause i love the brand and every Rab product I own, I would in no way change.
GoGoGreenGiant
This is a 3 layer jacket and the hood will be better than the helium's. Weight and price isn't everything - in fact it isn't anything in a survival situation.
This jacket will stand up to repeated abrasion from packwearing and strong winds better than the helium. Nothing against the helium (I have one) but not my first choice for off track or extended wear.
I haven't seen this jacket back up here in over a year, this time around I think I'll pull the trigger. My one big reservation now, howeeve, is that I read on Trailspace Reviews, a site I trust a lot, that the fabric being so lightweight and thin the jacket itself is fragile. If I were to only use this shell in the rain hiking I'm sure that would be fine, but with skiing (love that helmet compatible hood) I'm worried I'd rip the fabrics quickly
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Thanks for the recommendation. Why do you say it's nearly perf for touring?
m0arpheus
The Realm is a fully waterproof shell that is almost a combination of a hardshell and softshell. It breathes extremely well (doesn't even include pit zips). It borders on ultralight (less than 11 oz), but is built to be more durable and abrasion resistant than say the OR Helium. It compresses small enough so that one could easily throw it in the bottom of a pack. It only has chest pockets, so no hand pockets to get in the way of a waistbelt. For skiing, the Realm would be great for touring. For the resort, i.e. when weight is less of a concern than durability, a true hardshell would probably be a better choice.
Can someone compare/contrast this jacket to Rab's kinetic plus?
Damn it! I just ordered the outdoor research helium. Should I have got this instead?
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Is it? I thought the Helium 2 was 2.5 layer and this is a 3 layer membrane. Plus to my eyes, this looks less crinkly then the Helium. Anyways, might not be worth the extra 60 dollars because as you say, air permeability and wetting out will always be issues with these jackets.
indialogue
If you need lighter weight, and you need a jacket now, go with a 2.5 layer. If you are more interested in longer term durability before washing and raising the DWR with heat or retreating, go with a 3 layer. Technology is progressing well in this area as funds support the R&D. My sense is that it won't be long before someone comes up with a better solution than many DWR's. Rab is well known for quality and support and who know's maybe they have improved DWR. It is always a gamble when you can not return an item due to a failed component of the garment.
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The vendor informed us that the group's order was picked up and is on its way to our warehouse. Based on the tracking provided, the order is scheduled to arrive 4/22.
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Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the Rab Mens Flashpoint Jacket and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
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I don't know if I feel relieved or upset that there are no jackets in my size. Ok, I'm upset. Next time...
ojinsa
Now is the time!
Please do another drop. Seems to be a lot of interest for one
No sizes left. Please do a new drop. Thanks!
Yes please, another drop!
They need to have another drop of this!
Any chance of more Zinc L being added to this drop?
Wish there were more medium :(
Would this be a good shell for skiing? It sure looks like it. Sucks that Large sold out. I spent a lot this week on medical shit (ripped my big toenail off bicycling with flip flops yesterday) so I was waiting a bit to suss out my feelings on this jacket... ugh- FISCAL RESPONSiBILITY SUCKS>
I looked for that too!!!
Ugh large sold out :( was going to pull the trigger
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Me too..
Zinc L is back, just got it
And why no 2XL?
Winter12
Rab is out of XXL @Winter12 . We'll make sure we have a full size run if we drop the Flashpoint again. Thanks!
Such good stuff never come in XS for mens :|
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Sucks to be an asian at times like this. Thanx though.
Yes please. Would love to have more technical clothing options in XS.
I understand Massdrop will ship to an APO address as I asked in the last drop for the RAB Microlight, but how do I select APO as a shipping address, it is not listed in the drop down menu.
kjmfire
@kjmfire - there is a drop down menu on the top right of this page, next to your avatar. Click on the "Help Center" option in this menu and search for APO Address. This will lead you to your answer. Please let me know if you need any other assistance. Thanks! https://helpdesk.massdrop.com/hc/en-us/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=apo+address&commit=%EE%A1%AB
Would this be wearable over the Microlight Alpine Jacket?
Now how does the Flashpoint 7D fabric compare to the newer jackets Pertex shield + material?
Summers
Flashpoint material is superior - it's a true 3L versus 2.5L laminates.
It won't de-laminate like other jackets that use the Silicone-PU "sandwich" method (SPU/nylon or proprietary/SPU). Also having the nylon on the outside should supposedly give higher wear resistance, I've had my Flashpoint for several months including several days a week of cycle-commuting, weekly trail runs, and a few overnight hikes (mostly as an insect shield) and it still performs flawlessly.
I was initially concerned with the comfort of the material vs. the Marmot Essence, but having used it in heavy rain since found it doesn't cling like I thought it would.
Helps that it has a 20k hydrostatic head and a 40k MVTR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moisture_vapor_transmission_rate
Pretty phenomenal numbers for such a light waterproof jacket.
Edit: Strangely, after tinkering around the Rab website for info on the middle of the "sandwich" it appears the inner layer is Pertex Shield+ anyway...not sure if this is due to the SS16 update or whether Rab was forced to update their definition of a "proprietary fabric" to a "proprietary process" involving a nylon/pertex/nylon "sandwich".
Also, Pertex seem to have removed their own testing results from their website, but I remember the original MVTR rating for Shield+ was only 20k - hence why I thought the Flashpoint was better than Shield+. So either the Rab website is wrong, the process somehow doubles the MVTR from 20k to 40k, or the middle "sandwich" fabric is actually **Pertex Shield AP**...
@DannyMilks Will there be sizes for the ladies too?
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Any chance for Koi in medium?
Summers
Sorry @Summers, Rab has no inventory of the Koi in medium.
For someone 6 feet, 175 pounds, with a 34 inch waist and long arms would a medium or Large be more suitable?
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Ah, there are no mediums in Koi, only in Zinc.
Summers
This jacket is not loosely cut and I don't think you would be swimming in a Large, especially if you expect to layer it much. I do have about ten pounds on you but I would not want a Medium except purely as a shell over a base layer. The Flashpoint is the best performing shell I've ever owned. And combined with a merino base, fleece pullover, and Ghost Whisperer puffy it has kept me warm down into the high teens.