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SakeJams
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Nov 27, 2016
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djfrantz
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Nov 27, 2016
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SakeJamsLet me preface this with "I BELIEVE" (I'm still fairly new to the mech keeb world so I may be incorrect.)
the 3 on the left of the spacebar are standard 1.25u, 6.25u spacebar, 1.5u ctrl and 1.5u alt on the right and a 1.75u right shift. *(Figured I should edit this as you said you were still new, a 'standard bottom row' would be 6.25u space bar with 3 1.25u modifers on the left and 4 1.25u modifiers on the right and a 2.75u right shift.) From what I have seen the GMK sets that have been dropping recently will have you covered. They have a lot more keys in the standard kit and generally cover most standard sets, outside of international or something like an ergodox. Also why they are more expensive. GMK Hydro, that Keyclack.com has, https://www.keyclack.com/product/gb-gmk-hydro/, is still available and I think should cover that layout, but it is not cheap. Really, is anything cheap in this hobby? However, if you were looking at an SA set, like Jukebox https://www.massdrop.com/buy/18515 that just shipped, or Godspeed https://www.massdrop.com/buy/25045 that dropped a couple months ago, you would need to make sure to get the Non-standard/Tsangan kits, in addition to the alphas, modifiers/TKL, Numpad... what would fill out a standard 104/108 full size keyboard. GMK Sky Dolch at Originative would also be an option https://www.originativeco.com/products/sky-dolch?variant=21266406533.
That said, I don't believe the Tai Hao sets that show up here every now and again (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tai-hao-purple-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set) will fit it properly. I have the blood red set and it does not have the 1.5u bottom row modifiers or the 1.75u shift that you would need. On the other hand, if you can get an EnjoyPBT/Gateron set, like these from Mechanical Keyboards https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1652, you will be able to fill it out. There is a possibility that this set that is on MD right now could fit it https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set based on the images, BUT as is typical with Massdrop, the photos conflict with the description.
Keyclack is also running a Group Buy for a different profile of keys, the XDA, which are similar to Signature Plastics DSA (Overcast is a recent example) https://www.keyclack.com/product-category/group-buys/xda-milestone/ IF you have never used a DSA set, they are relatively flat in profile with a bit of a dish in the top for your fingertips. Not FLAT like a laptop keyboard, but relatively flat compared to GMK/Cherry or SA. Keyclack also has a spreadsheet on the order page so you can make sure you've ordered all the sets you need to fill your board.
the 3 on the left of the spacebar are standard 1.25u, 6.25u spacebar, 1.5u ctrl and 1.5u alt on the right and a 1.75u right shift. *(Figured I should edit this as you said you were still new, a 'standard bottom row' would be 6.25u space bar with 3 1.25u modifers on the left and 4 1.25u modifiers on the right and a 2.75u right shift.) From what I have seen the GMK sets that have been dropping recently will have you covered. They have a lot more keys in the standard kit and generally cover most standard sets, outside of international or something like an ergodox. Also why they are more expensive. GMK Hydro, that Keyclack.com has, https://www.keyclack.com/product/gb-gmk-hydro/, is still available and I think should cover that layout, but it is not cheap. Really, is anything cheap in this hobby? However, if you were looking at an SA set, like Jukebox https://www.massdrop.com/buy/18515 that just shipped, or Godspeed https://www.massdrop.com/buy/25045 that dropped a couple months ago, you would need to make sure to get the Non-standard/Tsangan kits, in addition to the alphas, modifiers/TKL, Numpad... what would fill out a standard 104/108 full size keyboard. GMK Sky Dolch at Originative would also be an option https://www.originativeco.com/products/sky-dolch?variant=21266406533.
That said, I don't believe the Tai Hao sets that show up here every now and again (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tai-hao-purple-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set) will fit it properly. I have the blood red set and it does not have the 1.5u bottom row modifiers or the 1.75u shift that you would need. On the other hand, if you can get an EnjoyPBT/Gateron set, like these from Mechanical Keyboards https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1652, you will be able to fill it out. There is a possibility that this set that is on MD right now could fit it https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set based on the images, BUT as is typical with Massdrop, the photos conflict with the description.
Keyclack is also running a Group Buy for a different profile of keys, the XDA, which are similar to Signature Plastics DSA (Overcast is a recent example) https://www.keyclack.com/product-category/group-buys/xda-milestone/ IF you have never used a DSA set, they are relatively flat in profile with a bit of a dish in the top for your fingertips. Not FLAT like a laptop keyboard, but relatively flat compared to GMK/Cherry or SA. Keyclack also has a spreadsheet on the order page so you can make sure you've ordered all the sets you need to fill your board.
SakeJams
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Nov 27, 2016
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djfrantzDamn this helped SO much! Thank you! I have definitely had my eyes on a GMK set but you are right, they're pretty expensive. I'm almost glad this wont be shipping for a few months, now I'll have time to save up for a few decent sets haha
Makami
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Nov 27, 2016
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SakeJamsGood morning,
this might help a bit for better understanding, if you've any more questions, just ask.
this might help a bit for better understanding, if you've any more questions, just ask.
jongaynor
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Jan 3, 2017
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djfrantzThanks for this reply. I've been going through 96% keycap hell as well, so to make life easier I KBE'd each of the layouts and added the key sizes. Hopefully these help someone else. Only the 'non-standard' sized keys are annotated with widths, and colors are GMK profile row-specific (R1,R1,R2,R3,R4,R4):
96% 6u space, arrows, winkeyless http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/63ae77167cd9b10ad2ff38c87876d815
96% (Standard) 6.25u space, no arrows http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f26baeeda97e4cc39147241f08eb0497
96% (Standard) 6.25u space, arrows, winkeyless http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/01f37a3c9d9fc4384fcde73acb50c891
96% 7u space, no arrows, winkeyless http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2ca807d6ca5f0ec545f127dbf0bb4a01
96% 7u space, arrows, winkeyless http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/ab3015a776e95997c1a6f3b2967b634c
104 key to compare your existing stock keycaps: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/4496c0c3de990eaad79386ad331b0c0a
96% 6u space, arrows, winkeyless http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/63ae77167cd9b10ad2ff38c87876d815
96% (Standard) 6.25u space, no arrows http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f26baeeda97e4cc39147241f08eb0497
96% (Standard) 6.25u space, arrows, winkeyless http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/01f37a3c9d9fc4384fcde73acb50c891
96% 7u space, no arrows, winkeyless http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/2ca807d6ca5f0ec545f127dbf0bb4a01
96% 7u space, arrows, winkeyless http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/ab3015a776e95997c1a6f3b2967b634c
104 key to compare your existing stock keycaps: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/4496c0c3de990eaad79386ad331b0c0a
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Edit: specifically, what size are these keys: http://imgur.com/BYnTdgq and what to look for in keycap sets to make sure i can get this layout