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nantipaneith
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Jan 24, 2018
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Just the other day we had a beautiful titanium framelock s35vn Kizer dropping on here for 99 bucks... why would I buy this thing at 160 bucks only to resell it at 70 (if I’m lucky) down the line? Rike should focus on making their carnival prize knives and leave the budget market to those who understand how it‘s evolved in the past year.
Jan 24, 2018
bdpf
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Jan 24, 2018
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nantipaneithWell, Rike is significantly better regarded than Kizer, so you are paying basically for the brand name reputation and quality. While I like the knife, I'm always in a tight budget so I'm looking for the best bang for the buck that I can find so yeah, I'd rather get a Kizer Ti/S35VN for $100 than this Rike 154CM/Ti/G10 for $160.
Jan 24, 2018
nantipaneith
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Jan 24, 2018
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bdpfThis same knife exists in its framelock with CF inlay, s35vn iteration for ~$170...
Jan 24, 2018
bdpf
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Jan 24, 2018
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nantipaneithI know exactly the one you are talking about... problem is that I missed the opportunity to buy it when I had the chance and now it's no longer available.
Jan 24, 2018
Audigeorge
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Jan 24, 2018
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nantipaneithAll blade steel and frame materials aside, I’m going to assume you have never owned a knife from Ruike because while they tend to offer knives in what knife snobs consider sub par alloys, although even aus8 and 440c are more then adequate for edc, there fit, finish and action stand way above knives made of whatever super steel flavor of the month is now cool and do it at a fraction of the price. My p801-sf has one of the best actions I’ve ever felt and it was 20$ shipped to my door. I’m glad they are using better steels like 154cm cause if they start using that and otheralike s35vn other companies better watch out.
Jan 24, 2018
nantipaneith
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Jan 24, 2018
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AudigeorgeThat’s a different conversation though; Ruike has serious issues with fit and finish, quality control and consistency. I Don’t agree that 440c et al are enough for edc if you’re a knife guy; we tend to use our knives often and at every chance. I recently bought a new Shirogorov Neon in S90V from Recon1 and the front belly part was dull from what I can assume was “light use” at the Recon1 office (inexcusable, I know, but such is life). Bottom line is, Rike is trying to enter a market segment that’s already saturated by better offerings from more experienced rivals, and their debut strategy Is completely wrong. They should be happy anyone gives a damn, but the only reason I gave a damn was because I expected this knife to be ~$100.
Jan 24, 2018
JKreese
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Jan 25, 2018
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AudigeorgeRuike and Rike are two different companies...
Jan 25, 2018
bdpf
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Jan 25, 2018
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AudigeorgeWong assumption. While I don't have any Ruike, I have 4 Reals Steels and it has been long discussed that it is extremely likely that both those brands are manufacturered by the same factory (same as Sanrenmu). So I do own some of those and one has to experience the action of the roller bearings on the Griffyn to understand how smooth a knife can be! And their 14C28N steel is EXCELLENT for regular EDC. I also EDC regularly a few Ganzos with 440C and I would say that their 440C is adequate for most light EDC task for most people. I would agree that companies like Real Steel, Ruike, Besttech, Steel Will provide some of the best value that can be had in the $30/$60 price range, but that is not what we are talking about here. Again, the point has been missed here, and this is not a slam against 154CM or against the quality of Rike. The steel is more than adequate for most EDC and Rike makes excellent products. As nantipaneith highlighted, Rike is trying to enter a lower price market where there is a boat load of competitors usually offering better values that what is offered here. This knife is not competing with the manufacturers mentioned above, at this price range, this knife is competing with manufacturers like Kizer, WE, Bestech, that, are known to manufacturer quality products and considering materials ALONE, will provide a better value. So again, not talking about reputation, design preferences which is very subjective, or anything else but materials, there were dozens of Kizers TI/S35Vn that could be had here or on Vipon below $100 last year, BladeHQ had the Bestech BT1706 full TI framelock with CF inlays S35VN on sale for $150 a couple of weeks ago, The Reals Steel Megalodon, full TI framelock / M390 steel can be had now for $150, WE has currently the Ignition with the same handle materials and a VG10 blade which is arguably similar to 154cm for $125 regular price, etc, etc.. the list can be very long....
Jan 25, 2018
nantipaneith
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Jan 26, 2018
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bdpfExactly. Btw guys follow me on IG; @todaysgrail_tomorrowsbeater
Jan 26, 2018
Omniseed
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Jan 26, 2018
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AudigeorgeRuike is associated with Sanrenmu and Real Steel, Rike is a different, smaller knife company run by a guy named Richard Wu I think.
They're both great at what they do, but they make fundamentally different products since Ruike exclusively makes high-quality ~$40 knives, while a 'budget' Rike is anything under $250. I've got a Rike-made ZD-006 and it's phenomenal, one of my best knives.
Jan 26, 2018
Omniseed
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Jan 26, 2018
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nantipaneithI've only got one Rike in hand (my second and third are on the way though) but I've had five Kizers and I would bet anything that the build quality and level of fit&finish on this Rike is worth an extra $50 over a Kizer with similar materials.
154CM isn't as good as S35VN, but for the user they are quite similar and the difference between the two is going to be somewhere between modest and insignificant.
If you compare this knife to a regular retail priced Kizer, you're looking at a knife that costs the same or a little bit less with effectively identical materials, a better action, and Rike's nifty design elements.
Kizer offers some awesome knives, and if you can get one for ~$100 you're going to be a happy knife fan, but this Rike looks like a pretty decent buy as well.
I'd rather have this Rike than the Bestech 1706A I have, even with the improved steel on the Bestech and the carbon fiber inlays. I just love the action of my Rike/HX ZD-006, the sound and feel of it is incomparable. I think Rike and WE have a tendency to build stiffer framelocks than Kizer and Bestech, which makes the detent better and makes the lockup feel more secure. It might not be any stronger, but it feels better to my neurotic mind.
Jan 26, 2018
nantipaneith
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Jan 26, 2018
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OmniseedYour Rike ZD is an older Model that goes for around $130 retail (way less secondary); it’s still a better buy today than this “budget“ model.
Jan 26, 2018
Axeguy
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Jan 28, 2018
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OmniseedI Rike their knives a lot. There is a lot to Rike here: and just Rike that, my wallet empties. (THAT I don’t Rike!)
Jan 28, 2018
WoodyBalto
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Jan 29, 2018
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AxeguyRut Roh!
Jan 29, 2018
JKreese
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Feb 2, 2018
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bdpfWhere can I get a Real Steel Megalodon Ti/m390 for $150?
Feb 2, 2018
bdpf
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Feb 2, 2018
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JKreeseBladeHQ Register, add to cart, proceed to checkout and you should see the knife discounted there.
Feb 2, 2018
JKreese
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Feb 2, 2018
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bdpfThanks! That's cheaper than the original Carson Boiling that I've found.
Feb 2, 2018
rob-okray
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May 29, 2018
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bdpfExcept it's not $160.
May 29, 2018
bdpf
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May 29, 2018
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rob-okrayNot when you check 17 weeks after that deal was posted.
May 29, 2018
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