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activator
38
Jul 14, 2017
Um... whom even is this for? Any kit that includes a first aid book AND scalpels is almost certainly asking for trouble. If you need a first aid book, you need a much simpler kit. If you're prepared to treat real trauma using advanced BLS and even some ALS gear/supplies... put your own kit together that conforms to your specific scope of practice. This bag does look like a great place to put it all -- too bad it the kit was obviously assembled by someone without a clue.
Subiesaurus_R3X
137
Jul 14, 2017
activatorTo be fair though. It is better to be prepared for anything. I would certainly not know how to really use a scalpel and would need to consult a first aid book for about anything more severe than a papercut... However my wife a Veterinary nurse is well trained with a scalpel. But you are correct I absolutely don't want somebody working on my injury with a scalpel while reading the manual. Haha.
activator
38
Jul 14, 2017
Subiesaurus_R3XYeah that's a fair point. I stopped my critique there, but honestly lots of red flags. 5 tongue depressors and 8 pairs of what looks like cheap latex gloves? (I could be wrong, but if they're good quality, why not say so?) I mean, it just doesn't seem to be planned out as a trauma kit at all. If I came across an MCI and someone had this kit, I'd use the hell out of it. But it's far from optimal if you're expecting trauma. This is a first aid kit with some inappropriate stuff in it. A trauma kit would find something better to put in the calamine lotion pocket.
Motorrad
2898
Jul 17, 2017
"no vaseline-impegnated meshes to deal with burns.." You don't know what these are for and you're complaining about people that don't know what they are doing? Ugh...
audible
602
Jul 17, 2017
MotorradOuch! So true. Burns? Really? Funny, I have never actually seen petroleum gauze used for burns. not protocol as far as I've seen. Rip open the pack toss the gauze, and make 3-sided burp valve for penetrating chest wounds with the sterile side of the package. What was the gauze for again? Haha.
Motorrad
2898
Jul 17, 2017
audibleYep. Toss the gauze. And tegaderm on a trauma for something other than a catheter dressing? I don't think so.
activator
38
Jul 18, 2017
I'm with those calling BS on vaseline for burns. It's insulating. Maybe long afterward it could be soothing, especially if you were a kid in the fucking 1950s. But if your source for efficacy is a company selling you the bandage, you might want to stop and think about that for a second. Best burn treatment is water. Or Water-Jel-type products, with 2+% lidocaine. http://www.jems.com/articles/print/volume-41/issue-8/departments-columns/case-study/water-jel-provides-alternatives-to-burn-cooling.html
Motorrad
2898
Jul 18, 2017
phht. yes, I bet you have. and I guess you then secured it with tegaderm? hahaha. ok ...but not on my ambulance you won't...and certainly not on a trauma...remember, this is trauma we're talking here. If you roll your trauma Pt into the trauma room with xeroform slapped all over his partial thickness burns, you're gonna get ridiculed. Even in the absence of sterile water and burnsheets it's unacceptable...at least for about the last 35 years (despite what Kendall tells you).
That's cute that you know how to use google(bravo!), I suggest that you use it a bit more and maybe you'll find out that the ONLY reason that xeroform is in your trauma bag is for use as an occlusive dressing and then just the foil wrapper.
I appreciate your enthusiasm, just not your posturing attempts to impersonate someone who actually knows something. ugh.
Motorrad
2898
Jul 20, 2017
I'm sure that was all very informative, but you lost me with "wagging our dicks". I'm telling you the way it is. We're talking about trauma, not treating boo-boos.
m0arpheus
433
Jul 20, 2017
MotorradIt was mostly me being self-deprecating, not me facetiously going after you man. Have a good one.
JohnWE
55
Oct 14, 2017
Please just stop...
warchyld67
Dec 13, 2017
Subiesaurus_R3Xi suppose just lying there bleeding out is preferable to someone TRYING to save you....derpa derpa.
Motorrad
2898
Dec 13, 2017
I see that you are out trolling...or 'policing' as you seem to regard yourself the expert on 'non-experts'...a truly selfless and noble endeavor...like a modern day Don Quixote...bravo! Since you're sooo 'curious', in EMS, 'trauma' means: get them to a trauma center. Here's the protocol provided by one of my local EMS agencies. Enjoyed 'getting real' with you, champ.
http://www.ssvems.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/860.pdf
warchyld67
Dec 14, 2017
Motorradactually TRAUMA as defined in every dictionary/ encyclopedia AND in the medical profession is an injury (such as a wound) to living tissue caused by an extrinsic agent regardless are severity.. any first aid kit is a trauma kit. but then a snarky EXPERT such as yourself obviously knows all those legitimate sources are wrong....but meh...super tactical Rambo know it alls spending thier time on mass drop poo pooing products they never intended to buy.....figures. .. thanks so much but i gotta run..there are windmills that need tilting.
Motorrad
2898
Dec 14, 2017
warchyld67Oh man...you really are my hero right now. Selflessly offering yourself up as an idiot to 'protect the universe from those who poo poo things they aren't going to buy anyway'. Hey, it's a mouthful, but I know you're up to this worthy task. ...you've got that 'looking like an idiot' part down solid.
Subiesaurus_R3X
137
Dec 14, 2017
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warchyld67
Dec 15, 2017
audible
602
Dec 16, 2017
warchyld67As it applies to a "military trauma kit", wouldn't an actual ems medical trauma protocol be more applicable than the dictionary definition?
jaffe
272
Dec 16, 2017
warchyld67according to you then, a TRAUMA CENTER is where 'an injury (such as a wound) to living tissue caused by an extrinsic agent regardless are(sic) severity' is cared for. Is this correct? I'm pretty sure that it is not.
jaffe
272
Dec 16, 2017
War Child, doesn't motorrad just mean motorcycle in german? you've got the name that implies that you are a bad ass. wow, what a weak troll.
audible
602
Dec 16, 2017
oh S#&T! Nailed it. After seeing photos of this lardbody, I see what all his 'derpa derpas' are about. Lord Bradford! omfg.
audible
602
Dec 16, 2017
jaffeyeah he went 'dictionary' in a desperate attempt to seem relevant, but it backfired.
audible
602
Dec 16, 2017
jaffeyet another backfire. what a rube!
jaffe
272
Dec 16, 2017
The answer, Lord Bradford, is that there is a big difference between a trauma center and an ER. A Trauma center is an ER, but an ER is not necessarily a trauma center. There are different levels of trauma center as well. It pretty simple, but apparently the concept is a bit out of reach for you, you phony fat sack of shit.
Motorrad
2898
Dec 16, 2017
jaffeEither all ERs in OK are at least a level 2 trauma center or Lord (derpa derpa) Bradford has no idea what he's talking about.
jaffe
272
Dec 16, 2017
MotorradLOL. well, I'm pretty sure... I'm going to suggest the latter is true. Though, in fairness, ERs are Trauma rated IV-I...but nobody ever calls a IV-III ER a trauma center. It's semantic, and you can bet Lord Derpa Derpa was not aware this was the case.
warchyld67
Dec 17, 2017
promise? YAWN
JohnWE
55
Jan 18, 2018
activatorThe first line in your review sums it up quite well.