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SEEED Grove IoT Commercial Gateway Kit

SEEED Grove IoT Commercial Gateway Kit

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A partnership between Intel and Microsoft, this kit allows for rapid prototyping for commercial gateway scenarios. Using the Intel NUC DE3815TYKE as a gateway, the kit has all the power needed to connect new devices and legacy devices, as well as the ability to perform edge analytics, translate protocols, and filter data Read More

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P1MPBOT5000
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Apr 26, 2017
2017 Winner of expensive unwanted device of the year.
gwideman
4
Apr 24, 2017
OK, I think I've cleared up some of the mystery about how this is supposed to work. First, there's a page here that covers the terrritory: https://github.com/Azure/connectthedots/blob/master/GettingStarted.md . Though in this Massdrop offering, the NUC takes the place of the RPi in that Getting Started page. The key mystery is how the conversation between gateway (NUC/RPi) and Arduino is implemented. Unfortunately, the "Device Setup" link points to a dead page, leaving us none the wiser. Moving on, there's this page: https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/sensor-to-cloud-connecting-intel-nuc-and-arduino-101-to-microsoft-azure-iot-hub , where there's a lot of discussion about using the "Node-RED" application on the NUC to configure the sensor modules. But no explicit info on what to program onto the Arduino. However, in Table 2 "Nodes and their parameters" we see mention of "Platform: Firmata". So I guess the missing information is that you're supposed to program the Firmata (https://www.arduino.cc/en/reference/firmata) library onto the Arduino at some point. (I suppose there's an outside chance that the Azure IoT apparatus programs the Arduino for you? Not clear at all.)
Maita
Apr 29, 2017
gwidemanI'm not expert but I'm fairly certain that a Raspberry Pi can directly communicate with the Arduino shield via it's 40-pin GPIO connector. It's not neat like with an Arduino board, but it still doesn't explain the NUC. I've found a few references to apparent GPIO pins on NUC boards, but even those state a lack of any explanation from anybody about how to use them... so in order to use this kit properly you need either an Arduino board, as you stated, OR lots of cables, soldering equipment, a multimeter, an oscilloscope, and idk what else, to properly map and then utilize pins on the NUC.
I'm fairly certain the point of the NUC is to dynamically feed data to the Arduino sketch, or even update it, based on some other USB input (touchscreen, as interactive sales displays is what I keep seeing these particular NUCs advertised for) but without the Arduino this is till... well why? It seems like an extremely expensive, extremely niche toy kit for anyone who wants to figure out how to make a really cool DIY interactive display, but doesn't need professional quality; Grove is aimed squarely at prototyping and personal use.
gwideman
4
Apr 22, 2017
Could someone explain how all the supplied sensors and actuators connect to the NUC? At least, I assume that's what they are supposed to do -- the linked docs don't seem to explain the "Thing" part of this IoT kit.
gwideman
4
Apr 24, 2017
No condescension inferred by me, nor intended by me! :-). I think we're both just trying to understand what this offering is really all about, and I concur in finding it a bit odd. For me, the discovery of the key info that Firmata is the basis of linking NUC to sensors/actuators at least completes the picture of how this is supposed to work, even if making it puzzling that (a) the Arduino is not included, and (b) the existing Intel and Seeed docs don't exactly join all the dots on how to get this up and running.
Maita
Apr 29, 2017
gwidemanReading your last sentence there, I am now absolutely convinced that this was originally actually a kit of accessories for an Arduino board. Sort of a "you have an Arduino and you want to do basically anything IOT? Here ya go!" I think the name given to it reflects either the stereotypical sales gimmick or a legitimate translation issue, since Seeed is Chinese (pretty sure anyway.)
Dammit I'm not sure any of this discussion has actually helped me understand what it's really about, even though we've come up with what I think is a reasonable explanation for its genesis XD
KloudSociety
166
Apr 22, 2017
Here i am 2 years into a poll with 150 ppl asking for pendleton wool blankets and yet these drops surface without a hint of being sourced from a community poll. Please... show us the poll/ users that requested this or focus on providing goods we want.
Make this happen https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Quality-Wool-Roll-up-Blankets
Maita
Apr 24, 2017
KloudSocietyIt's becoming clear, in my mind, that the polls are no longer the primary driver of what gets dropped. So many drops have discussions chock full of criticism, from low quality and incomplete kits (not everything required included) to obviously non-competitive pricing. Most drops now, at least in tech, seem to be from the same old (often Chinese) suppliers. Seems Massdrop's original concept wasn't nearly as profitable nor sustainable as hoped, to me.
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