runxconeSure it's not the lightest tent, but i think it's a bit pedantic to say it shouldn't be allowed.
If it's not light enough for you, just move on.
I'd still categorise this as a lightweight tent suitable for backpacking. Lighter tents are significantly more expensive.
The previous Sierra design tent that just dropped was only 5lbs lighter for the 2 person, but double the price.
spiznasI agree with both of you. Thing is, I'm going to mostly side with runxcone here just because MassDrop isn't listing this in the Outdoors category, but only the Ultralight category. The idea that this is an ultralight product only is ridiculous. This is also me being crazy because I'm doing the same thing over again - complaining about MD's use of the Ultralight category - and expecting a result, I guess, as otherwise I wouldn't be posting.
Now, a 4lb tent in general is not UL. But given the size of this tent, its pretty darn light for two people who want to share the load. If I was hiking with a buddy and not my wife, yeah, this is the 4lb tent I would get. Its not UL in a classic sense, but it certainly could be used by 3 hikers who wanted to save on shelter weight. I keep thinking, though, why MD doesn't put this stuff in both categories? There's got to be folks looking in the Outdoors category only who might've missed this product and would've bought it. It certainly looks like a good, lightweight and affordable option for couples with enough room for gear.