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Sierra Designs Sweet Suite 2P & 3P Tents
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Sierra Designs Sweet Suite 2P & 3P Tents
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Highly livable and functional, the Sierra Designs Sweet Suite tents are designed to make you feel like you're living in your own outdoor suite. Featuring unique pre-bent Featherlite aluminum poles, both tents provide you with plenty of interior space without compromising the structural rigidity Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downuberjew
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Aug 24, 2018
Anybody know if you have to stake out the single pole? I know the 2 corners you should.
NoTrail
17
Aug 24, 2018
I have always liked Sierra Design...from way, way back, but sometimes their color combos are terrible. This is one of those...the fly, that is....yulghh...
Thor-tron
29
Aug 24, 2018
I agree that this wouldn't be considered "ultralight" by definition but not too many double walled 2p tents are. There are some but they are mostly not for the budget minded. There are many single walled and tarp options for very cheap and even some double wall 1p tents that would be under 3 lbs for affordable prices but I think some are looking to keep the space and comfort that this tent offers. While not "ultralight" I think it's not a bad lightweight option for some who can use the savings and put towards much lighter sleeping bags, pads, or backpacks and still keep base weight at 10lbs or under. That said this is not exactly "cheap" for some either and there are tents (to answer the last comment) that are similar in weight design and specs out there in 100 to 160 price range. Examples: Hyke n Byke, Outdoor vitals, Paria outdoors, Naturehike, Meir Sports. Just be cautious, do your homework. I have experience with Paria Outdoors Bryce 2p tent and I was impressed with it. I haven't found any double walled 2p tents under 3lbs in the 100 range. Anyway thanks for the variety Massdrop and happy hiking all.
RockyMountains
478
Sep 3, 2018
Huh, weird. I did the full circuit a good two decades back now (wow, I am getting old) and we didn't encounter (or hear complaints of) a single rodent encounter. This was a December, so perhaps they are seasonal or weather dependent- it was cold enough that it was snowing at the time.
Vespa
19
Aug 24, 2018
can we get $100 ultralight tents (2 person)? There must be someone who makes such ultralight tents at this price point (China?). I would say it should be less than 1.3kg all in.
Stepbystep
549
Aug 24, 2018
Sure, and I totally get that. Y'know what they say, though: light, cheap, durable, pick two...and that is especially true when it comes to pushing limits with ultralight gear (most of the time). Pick wisely for the requirements. The problem often is that a) people don't know materials, b) translation/product descriptions from the china sellers/resellers are often incorrect for one reason or another, and c) the world of Marketing these days is just ridiculous and worse than it ever has been that I can recall...so the combination of all this leaves a lot of uneducated consumers at the mercy of bullet points and hyped promises, and they often end up with gear that may disappoint. Not even including the reliance these days on "reviews." :) I do find it remarkable that the retail pricing of shelters has more or less stayed about the same over the last 20-25 years, and these days that kind of equates to them being more affordable with better (and usually lighter) materials, and those that want lower pricing can choose from others if they can accept whichever compromises apply. I do wonder if we may see more reduction in the value (low pricing) aspect of china-direct products soon - they already capitalized on perceived value and raised pricing, but if trade wars continue we may see increases in new places.
treal512
435
Aug 24, 2018
StepbystepI hear ya man. I really meant no offense to SD and MD by posting my OP. And to be completely honest, my main concern w/the Lanshan 2 shelter is it's durability and quality out on the trail. To have your first concern about a vital piece of gear to be it's quality is pretty foolish, IMO. And yet here I am, lol. I'm not sure how the market will go forward w/trade politics, but with the quality of gear rising it sure seems like a good time for adventurers like us to be around :)
UnclePecos
15
Aug 24, 2018
Since when is 3 lb ultralight? I think you should put this item in the outdoors section.
mbeeezy
78
Aug 24, 2018
UnclePecosI really think they are trying to appeal to people who are backpackers trying to lighten their load, not bible ultralight folks. I love SD tents, but the only one that comes close to ultralight is the High Route (had it, loved it, just not enough room for me + a dog.) This is definitely for a different market than core ultralighters.
Stepbystep
549
Aug 24, 2018
UnclePecosWhy not? Well under 2lbs per person unless you're using a 2P as a solo tent. Even with the full weight of the 2P it wouldn't be hard to make it fit easily into a 10lb base weight if you aren't going crazy with extras/luxuries/electronics and such. Base weight, not per-item weight.
Stepbystep
549
Aug 24, 2018
daedalus2uThere are extremely few shelters on the market that don't need staking even if just focusing on this one aspect can make them "freestanding" in design. Most are some version of a crossed pole dome or similar (some of the BD designs, Big Sky, etc) but the rest either need full corner/pullout staking and/or at least the vestibule(s) to be staked in order to provide fabric tension or else they are just noodles even if bodies and gear are inside to weight it down. The advantage sometimes is needing fewer stake points, and sometimes you can use a trekking pole extended to fit the corner points on one end and call that good (still not super sturdy and may reduce air flow if a fly can't separate from the inner). Without fabric tension in some way, no shelter can really do its job in anything but the calmest conditions.
BowGal
21
Jun 30, 2018
At 3lbs10oz before footprint, hardly call this ultralight. Maybe for car Campers, but not for anything long distance hiking.
Stepbystep
549
Aug 24, 2018
BowGalWhy not? Works out to 29oz per person which is equivalent to quite a lot of solo trekking pole shelters on the market now. Can't make that fit into a 10lb base weight? Or are you using a 2P tent as a solo shelter?
jari.perho
81
May 22, 2018
I hate it when the fly zipper is placed in the center of the entrance. MSR's Hubba NX for example has the fly zipper on the side. It makes so much more sense. No more awkward leaning in from inside the tent and getting your back wet.
I also wonder if Sierra Designs is still aiming to ditch the vestibule? I think the awning makes sense if designed well enough.
I also wonder if Sierra Designs is still aiming to ditch the vestibule? I think the awning makes sense if designed well enough.
jari.perho
81
May 23, 2018
I get your point about the versatility of a center zip but think you can fix that in a side zipper design simply by making the vestibules asymmetrical. MSR's newest 2018 Elixir tents also have the fly zipper on the side, but I don't get why they and most other tent designers insist using symmetrical vestibules.
Stepbystep
549
May 23, 2018
jari.perhoSure, lots of ways to skin a cat! I think doors are usually symmetric like that because people like to sleep with heads on the same end, so that way both people get the door by their faces, plus so many tents taper in width from head to foot, so asymmetric wouldn't work so well there.
spiznas
93
May 20, 2018
Anyone have any links to some good reviews on this tent? Struggling to find any..
spiznas
93
May 22, 2018
Backcountry edge makes some great videos - for showcasing product features and giving a close look. But their goal is to convince you to buy a product (hopefully through their store). I don't think I've seen them say a negative thing on their videos. Theyre not trying to scrutinise products and test them to expose weaknesses etc.
The fly may be low enough to stop rain from being blown in, but it doesn't look like it'll do anything to stop the wind from getting in.
I also have concerns of water dripping through the fly and onto the mesh, thus getting into the tent.
The fly may be low enough to stop rain from being blown in, but it doesn't look like it'll do anything to stop the wind from getting in.
I also have concerns of water dripping through the fly and onto the mesh, thus getting into the tent.
NoTrail
17
Aug 24, 2018
Backcountry Edge does not review gear, just highlight features. They never give a real opinion.
metastart
2
May 20, 2018
Hi, for this tent and all your other tents, do they have flame retardants applied? Also, is a DWR applied? If so, does it have PFCs?
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