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Sierra Designs Sweet Suite 2P & 3P Tents
Vespa
19
Aug 24, 2018
can we get $100 ultralight tents (2 person)? There must be someone who makes such ultralight tents at this price point (China?). I would say it should be less than 1.3kg all in.
Tbrad425
122
Aug 24, 2018
VespaLanshan 2 , $100 at 2#8 oz. Double wall two person tent . Ali Express.
treal512
435
Aug 24, 2018
VespaNot to hijack this drop (sorry MD), but here is the Lanshan 2. Only the tent is on the scale (@2.396 lbs).
NoTrail
17
Aug 24, 2018
treal512No poles...some people don't hike with the ski pole required. I bought a similarly designed Six Moon Designs tent and sent it right back...hated it.
treal512
435
Aug 24, 2018
NoTrailYes, the Lanshan 2 requires hiking poles for setup. I'm fairly tall and prefer to use them as it keeps my upper half more upright. Double duty gear ftw.
Stepbystep
549
Aug 24, 2018
treal512It took awhile to get some good field feedback but I've now seen two of these with ripped fabric and seam failure. I know these have been all the rage but frankly the fabric is fairly low quality even though it looks and feels nice and overall they are pretty well constructed (well enough anyway). Best to keep them fully guyed and choose the most protected sites you can if there may be any strong storms or high winds and try to limit UV exposure. This is actually kind of a facebook hijack thing to do on a drop...and nobody should walk away with the impression that the quality of materials between this and the SD shelters is the same, imho.
treal512
435
Aug 24, 2018
StepbystepI don't think anyone believes a <$100 tent is better quality than what SD or any other competent outdoor manufacturer provides day in and day out. SD has uncontested top-notch quality, but people all over the entire world are interested in affordable lightweight tents that don't make people cry a little inside at the price/weight ratio. It's as simple as that. If the envelope has to be pushed by a small Chinese group, then that is the reality of the situation.
Stepbystep
549
Aug 24, 2018
treal512Sure, and I totally get that. Y'know what they say, though: light, cheap, durable, pick two...and that is especially true when it comes to pushing limits with ultralight gear (most of the time). Pick wisely for the requirements. The problem often is that a) people don't know materials, b) translation/product descriptions from the china sellers/resellers are often incorrect for one reason or another, and c) the world of Marketing these days is just ridiculous and worse than it ever has been that I can recall...so the combination of all this leaves a lot of uneducated consumers at the mercy of bullet points and hyped promises, and they often end up with gear that may disappoint. Not even including the reliance these days on "reviews." :) I do find it remarkable that the retail pricing of shelters has more or less stayed about the same over the last 20-25 years, and these days that kind of equates to them being more affordable with better (and usually lighter) materials, and those that want lower pricing can choose from others if they can accept whichever compromises apply. I do wonder if we may see more reduction in the value (low pricing) aspect of china-direct products soon - they already capitalized on perceived value and raised pricing, but if trade wars continue we may see increases in new places.
treal512
435
Aug 24, 2018
StepbystepI hear ya man. I really meant no offense to SD and MD by posting my OP. And to be completely honest, my main concern w/the Lanshan 2 shelter is it's durability and quality out on the trail. To have your first concern about a vital piece of gear to be it's quality is pretty foolish, IMO. And yet here I am, lol. I'm not sure how the market will go forward w/trade politics, but with the quality of gear rising it sure seems like a good time for adventurers like us to be around :)
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