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holygoat
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Sep 19, 2017
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So this is a large 1-person bivy that weighs 53oz? For that weight I could take an OR Helium Bivy (18oz) _and_ a Tarptent Protrail (26oz) and have weight to spare. I'm not sure how this counts as ultralight.
I'm pretty sure the current Tarptents have 3000mm HH fabrics, which is pretty close to this, too.
Sep 19, 2017
warriorscot
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Sep 19, 2017
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holygoatIt's half designed for modestly extreme environments(both heat and cold) where a bivvy doesn't cut it and typical UK climates where in winter it's just too wet to bivvy and too windy for the majority of tarp tents. It's a bit of a halfway house, and it is on the heavy side, you don't need to add a lot of weight to get a decent tent rather than this essentially very roomy framed bivvy. If you live in a very wet area, or one that has prolific bug issues this is a good choice though if you want something a bit more on the bivvy side.
Sep 19, 2017
DannyMilks
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Sep 20, 2017
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holygoatI've flagged this to our team as being too heavy to be Ultralight, and next time around it would be listed under the general Outdoor Community. Thanks for posting. And you're right - TarpTents have 3000mm fabric and I think they're working on 5000mm fabric!
Sep 20, 2017
ibex-doc
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Jan 9, 2018
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holygoatat this weight I would also expect something free standing, sounds like the tank of all ultralight bivys
Jan 9, 2018
Jwalche
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Jan 9, 2018
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ibex-docFree standing and it should accommodate 3 people at this weight.
Jan 9, 2018
EverythingIsBetterOutdoors
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Jan 9, 2018
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ibex-docPretty close, actually. SnugPack specializes in military gear. From experience I can tell that from a *military gear* perspective this is so light it could have an existential crisis but I'm also extremely vocal about not hiking in military gear unless you plan on abusing the crap out of your gear and your body.
Jan 9, 2018
U-Turn
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Jan 10, 2018
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warriorscotTarptents are tents although they sound like they'd be tarps if that clears it up a little. They are great lightweight tents, and there are tarps too. Check them out! The UK does well with Tarptents and Lightheart Gear tents too.
Jan 10, 2018
U-Turn
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Jan 10, 2018
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EverythingIsBetterOutdoorsSnugpak jungle bags are pretty good at 2 pounds, for light summer-fall bags that are super cheap ($55). They have a built in headnet for cowboy camping.
Jan 10, 2018
warriorscot
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Jan 10, 2018
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U-TurnParts of the UK do well with tarp tents, I've yet to have good success with one in the Highlands unless the weather cooperates. When the rain turns sideways that's when you see the difference between gear designed for drier and calmer climates that have more concerns with temperature variation.
Really if your going light it's better just to do it whole hog and bivvy out, adding a tarp can make admin easier and give a bit of shelter, but it's kind of surplus as you still need the bivvy.
Jan 10, 2018
U-Turn
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Jan 10, 2018
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warriorscotTarptents is a brand name of a tent company. Tarptents.com - Are you saying that no tents work in the UK but only bivy's? I've stayed drier in tents personally.
Jan 10, 2018
warriorscot
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Jan 10, 2018
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U-TurnIt wasn't clear in your comment what you were referring to, Tarptents is a brand, but Tarp Tents are thing that aren't exclusively Tarptents. But Tarptents are mostly tarp tents, so have the advantages and disadvantages and if you include the neccesary kit to bring it up to the same standard of weather resistance it's not as clear a delineation.
Jan 10, 2018
Ortep
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Jan 10, 2018
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EverythingIsBetterOutdoors> abusing the crap out of your gear and your body.
That pretty much sums up my military experience right there.
Jan 10, 2018
EverythingIsBetterOutdoors
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Jan 10, 2018
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OrtepYep, BTDT. There's a reason it's called "grunt".
Jan 10, 2018
Ortep
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Jan 11, 2018
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EverythingIsBetterOutdoorsI didn't go backpacking/camping for about 25 years after I was no longer subject to reveille.
Jan 11, 2018
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