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tzurlis
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Jul 28, 2016
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as been told, it doesn't fit all conditions and sometimes gas or alcohol stoves r better. did not liked it on over 5 days hard hikes. used it during a few 3-5 days more calm hikes, one of them with a group of 8 and this was one of our 3 cooking devices. my country is having high summer temps, mid to high humidity conditions, and even in desert conditions i found lots of dead dry wood bits around. it's cons fit most wood stoves but for my opinion it's kind of a mid- way product. for my opinion, bushbuddy is a better alternative for a long hike. and this pot is heavy. i use a titanium one. *pros: very good wind protection with the built -in "crown" \ pot holder: high heat output: wood burned well - only ashes remains in the bottom: very low risk for fire starting around in dry forest or bush around + very strong wind - no burning bits flaying around (with some common sense- do not make a campfire inside...). boiled water quite well, yet more then 10 min. can fit a 18" pan or pot - we used up to 26", yet in this size, will take its time heating it. stove parts does not rust or corrosive after 2 years of occasional use. and, your burning twigs are all around so no fuel carrying. *cons: in a light hiking point of view, for 255 grams u can get a bushbuudy, a light gas stove+ 7-12 days gas can, or alcohol stove + it's one-week-fuel. as many other wood stoves, it needs small up to little finger thickness twigs, all broke into about the same length. using fire does make both cooking pot and stove crown \ body black from soot or ash, so u want a good cover to carry them. that means more weight, hence for a really long hike u need something more massive then a big zip-lock. fire is hard to control in heat output manner, so if u make something more complex then boiling water or soup - say rice or so - it might burn up. and u need to stay on it all the time keep on feeding stove with twigs and small stuff, all u should ready in advance next to it. so lots of messing around with the device, no put-and-forget, not very nice when your cold and tired. u also have to start the fire inside every time, which is a bit of a mess hence its deep and a bit narrow, so prepare your firstarters kit (when wet, i used cotton bolls with lip wax : and bike tube chips) and be well with fire starting skill. so more mess, more weight, more Hussel. all by all - not bad, not great. bushbuddy is better but cost about 3 times more, so do your consideration.
Jul 28, 2016
Eric.n.whalen
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Jul 28, 2016
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tzurlisSorry this may be off-topic, but what the heck is a bike tube chip?
Jul 28, 2016
Icarusdiedquick
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Aug 2, 2016
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tzurlisI have a bushbuddy. Its crazy how much this Massdrop solo stove looks like it, at less than half the cost of a bb. One thing I noticed on mune is the soot that gets all over any pot you cook on. I usually use oak twigs from trees around here. I use dryer lint or an occassional pine lighter stick to start mine. The amazing thing with these stoves is the efficiency with which they burn twigs and how hot you can get the fire with so little biomass. The combustion is total, and there is never anything but a light ash left after your cooking is done.
Aug 2, 2016
Eric.n.whalen
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Oct 3, 2016
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IcarusdiedquickYeah, there is some bad blood between fans of the Bush Buddy and fans of the Solo Stove over this. It's my understanding that although Bush Buddy preceded the Solo Stove, Bush Buddy doesn't have any controlling patents or rights over similarly designed stoves. When I was researching the Solo Stove before I purchased it, this bad blood and online arguing was noticeable. Here's what I learned from my research: Bush Buddy is lighter, manufactured in North America by a cottage gear-maker in smaller batches, comes with some nice packaging/box, and is quite a bit more expensive. Solo Stove is manufactured oversees (in China) in larger batches by a company/owner in the US, is a bit heavier, the company behind the stove is obviously better at marketing, and it's substantially cheaper. Despite the larger scale, overseas manufacturing, I haven't heard or seen any quality problems with Solo Stoves. Of course, it's up to any individual to weigh those factors in deciding which stove to purchase - I ended up buying a Solo Stove because, at the time, I was really strapped for cash yet needed a wood-burner. The Solo Stove is an excellent device, although I've only ever heard good things about the Bush Buddy, and shaving an ounce of two is usually good as well. All this fwiw...
Oct 3, 2016
KNRDIII
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Apr 2, 2017
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Eric.n.whalenI truly hope that Fritz Handel, the guy who designed the original Bushbuddy stove, gets royalties from Solo stove. He developed the design all by himself, and this burner is identical to his designs.
Apr 2, 2017
Eric.n.whalen
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Apr 3, 2017
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KNRDIIIFunny, because I feel like I've seen similar designs that pre-dated the Bushbuddy... I know that I've seen stove designs pre-dating the Bushbuddy that included multiple burning stages; so do you think Fritz ought to pay out to those folks? I doubt Fritz came up with the idea of a multi-stage wood-burning stove, and if you're trying to design a wood-burner it makes sense that a good design would hone in on similar design elements. At some point IP rights expire, and it's time to let more people have access to an idea - and not treat ideas like property to owned by one person alone.
I'm sure Fritz is great, and I hope he's done well (financially) on his design, but I don't think he deserves to own everything somewhat similar forever - especially at the premium price and limited distribution he's been able to put forth.
(edit: oh, and let's not forget that the Bushbuddy is a bit lighter and more expensive. Anyone seeking to shave ounces can still go buy it - and it may be a slightly better product - so maybe anyone who's concerned about this bad blood between companies should put their money where their mouth is. That would be A LOT more productive than complaining about another great product - the solo stove - which is being offered at a lower price, better distribution, and albeit it a similar design. This isn't intended to sound harsh - Please read it with a positive tone as intended! Happy trails!)
Apr 3, 2017
DannyMilks
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Apr 3, 2017
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Eric.n.whalenAFAIK, Fritz doesn't make the Bush Buddy, or at least didn't for a long while, but instead has some sort of agreement with Steve at Nomadic Stove Company to make and sell them. I tried for more than a year to work directly with Nomadic, but they never had stock and pricing was an issue. I just did a quick search and it looks like Bushbuddy is making the stoves again now? @KNRDIII @tzurlis @Icarusdiedquick
Apr 3, 2017
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