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thx1137
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Mar 18, 2017
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I had an A7 ever since it was launched and really enjoyed it in he beginning. The newfound image quality, resolution, and versatility was unmatched, despite some flaws. I was all set to uprade to the A7R2, but soon realized that it would cost me a lot of money for no improvement to the artistic merits of my photography. At around the same time, I borrowed a Fuji XT1 and have been extremely happy since. Yes, the Fuji is not full frame, and yes, it has more noise in the files in low light (before post-processing). However, the analogue controls and beautiful, accurate white balance and pleasing tones offered by Fuji is unmatched. Since then, i bought an XT2 and 3 prime lenses, all for less than the price of the A7R2 body alone. Now, my Sony collects dust as it is worth nothing due to Sony's aggressive product refreshes. The perceived image quality from my XT2 also beats my original A7. No, it does not do razor thin bokeh like the Sony. I am a professional portrait and fashion photographer and I think about gear a lot too. Consider for a minute, many of the best photos found in art galleries do not have extremely shallow bokeh. In many ways, people get too caught up in that concept. In my eyes, it is merely an effect of photography and mostly just shows how much you spent on your lenses, with zero relationship to your creative eye or credentials as a photographer. Food for thought.
Halenstone
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Apr 21, 2017
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thx1137I'll buy your A7 for $500. That's far more than nothing and you can buy another quality lens. Let me know how you wanna arrange the deal.
thx1137
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Jun 3, 2017
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primalThank you! Glad you appreciate my insights. I'm not on here as much these days, but message me anytime with your questions on photography and I'll do my best to give you my insights. Since there is no IM feature here, find me on Instagram: visualpoetryjourney
thx1137
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Jun 3, 2017
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HalenstoneI'll think about it. $500 won't even buy a crop sensor mirrorless, which is why I've kept it around as a spare to use with legacy lenses for the odd project. Anyway, feel free to message me on instagram! See my other post in this thread.
bbisset
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Jul 19, 2017
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thx1137You make some great points... but... the full frame (any FF) gives you the option of using an 85mm f/1.4 at f/2.0 for an incredibley sharp photo with nice bokeh to spare. I'm not saying every photo should be that way, but to not have the option would hurt more.
thx1137
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Jul 19, 2017
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bbissetHaving the option to use a shallower depth of field is good, and yes the effect is enhanced on a full frame vs. crop sensor- it's just physics. But consider this - 10 years from now, will you remember a good photo because of how much bokeh you can wring out of it, or how razor sharp it is? Most definitely not. Today, cameras have gotten to the point that almost any one you buy will enable you to take excellent photos. There are advantages to having the latest tech in helping to ease a workflow that was not possible before, but the fact is that people buying the most expensive equipment are not dedicated photographers in search of creating meaning through the photographic medium. Most are wealthy hobbyists or highly particular gadget lovers. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, because it helps grow the photography industry to make it better for everyone.
I believe that a true photographic journey is not one that is defined by how sharp or bokeh-worthy one's photos are, because any other photographer with such equipment will be able to do the same. In other words, there is no personality or personal signature imprinted onto our photos simply from the reliance on technology alone. A camera for a photographer is like a pen for a poet. Everyone's style will differ, but great works of art in any medium will always be defined by the imagination of the artist and their success in conveying their version of beauty to the world.
I believe that a true photographic journey is not one that is defined by how sharp or bokeh-worthy one's photos are, because any other photographer with such equipment will be able to do the same. In other words, there is no personality or personal signature imprinted onto our photos simply from the reliance on technology alone. A camera for a photographer is like a pen for a poet. Everyone's style will differ, but great works of art in any medium will always be defined by the imagination of the artist and their success in conveying their version of beauty to the world.
bbisset
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Jul 19, 2017
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thx1137You and I are singing from the same songsheet. I want the flexibility to be able to make that decision on the fly. In the photo I attached, hindsight tells me I should have shot more at f/2.8 or even 4.0 but it was a very casual shoot and while I have done a lot of portraiture, I hadn't in many years so a bit rusty. I no longer shoot professionally... I am one of those high-end enthusiasts we speak of. Mine engineering makes the money, photography obsession spends it, lol. But, when you see what a truly great sensor can produce in terms of dynamic range... you understand why the a7Rii is a wonderful camera at any price. And when you get to my age, and your friends start falling off the perch... you realise that you'd better live for today - because there's no telling what the morrow might bring.
lastzero
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Jul 22, 2017
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thx1137You forget one other key point, the reach. A crop body has a crop factor larger than 1x (by definition) . My 400/2.8 becomes an 600/4. This reach is not accounted for by many since they, as you say feel FF is good. However, for birding and sports, having the extra crop reach is very nice and allows me to carry say a 1200/8 (2x TC), which is sometimes needed for the reach. I won't deny that it's worth having an FF, to have an option to remove the reach, but it's not always needed.
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