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SoundMAGIC PL50 IEMs

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What's going on, when is the March 16 order shipping?
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finally sent! :)
mieszek
Hooray! :D
Anyone knows how these compare to the Mee Pinnacle PX, Brainwavz B100 and other IEMs? Curious if it is worth its discounted 30USD compared to the newer competition.
gemmoglock
I have the Pinnacle PX. Overall they are better for sure. They give you more immersion (except for acoustic small scale recordings - see below), more detail, and an impressive sound-stage. However, if you want something that doesn't grab your attention so much, and is a bit easier on the ear, smaller and very easy to insert, these could be nice. Furthermore, the mids here are very good, quite forward and perhaps more appealing to some than the PX mids which are very detailed but sit somewhat in the back of the mix. The PL50 is mid-centric. The PX has plenty of things to offer, forward-mids not being one of them.
Another past PL50 owner here, around 2010 when they first came out. Not going to cover much new here - brief review as I remember these. Tiny flat, light iems, comfortable, and in my ears, stays good in place. Very good indeed for listening hours in bed. Paired with comply t-100 foams, without hooks = super comfortable. Sony hybrids also works well. They do deserve better ear tips from the included ones. Soundwise, they did too sound to me dull and 'meh', I couldn't agree much of the description. But I cannot rule out perhaps these didn't mixed well together with my slight cold sourced Cowon DAPs, and they need a warmer or right source to shine. Even eq'ed, I personally never ended up loved the sound of these. Build quality - you likely to find better. I did experience back then the shells to suddenly open and separate, but they can be glued back together. The cable however lasted me surprising a good while and abuse, before it eventually failed, and my pair end scrapped as sleeping plugs. I would buy these mainly for their ability to provide great comfort. Small ears would definitely love'em too.
How much does it cost the send to Mexico?
Merca86
Click "Join drop", add your address, check it by yourself.
Got them long time ago, initially got very dissapointed because they sounded dull, kinda "canned", and lacked extension on both ends from my cheap DAC/amp (Hifime Sabre 9018). I was used to a bright bassy sound, coming from ATH-M50x. After lying around in a drawer for a few months, and me getting used to a much more balanced sound (HD6XX), I decided to give them a second try listening from my smartphone. For my surprise, those things surprised me in a great way with, and now I use them as my daily night buds.
They're super flat, very light and tiny, you barely notice you wear them. You can lie on your side in bed/couch without major issues (I've owned 20-30 IEMs, those are the smallest, and the only ones with whom I can lie on my side). I discovered they sound dull when plugged to higher output impedance amps (like my Sabre 9018 or laptop's headphone out) due to their impedance curve, but when using low impedance sources (smartphone, for instance) they sound really well balanced and have decent extension, a nice natural and relaxed sound. They're great for watching series/movies because mids are very well presented, so dialogs are crystal clear, not like some V-shaped headphones that sound great with EDM/hip-hop music but voices sound distant and artificial.
Overall, they're good, worth the money (if you know what you're buying and you have a proper source for them). On the negative side, the included foam tips are complete trash and even removing them can be troublesome, I suggest buying some Comply (T-100 are supposed to fit well) or use silicone tips (seal with silicone can be challenging due to their shape, YMMV).
Eli35
Thanks for making the time to write a review with this detail. I have a purpose for these that I would not had thought about addressing via this route otherwise.
I urge everyone not to buy these. Go on AliExpress and buy some brand new 2018 multiple/hybrid driver IEMs for half the price.
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CamoGeko
The PL50 are great if you know what you're getting: a balanced sounding IEMs that needs low impedance sources to sound good. If you plug these to some motherboards with somewhat high output impedance (15-20 ohm) they'll sound dull and lack extension, if you expect a v-shaped sound with deep bass and bright treble you'll be dissapointed. They're not "the best IEMs" because there's no "best IEMs", everyone's tastes are different. Initially I disliked them so much but now I love them, read my mini-review above if you wanna know my opinion.
First of all, hybrids aren't better than dynamics-only, it's just a different technology with some pros and cons. Second, as a budget chi-fi IEM fan who has owned 20-30 different renowned models, I'll list you a few models that I liked the most: - bass-focused: Rock Zircon. - v-shaped sound: KZ ZS5 v1 (with foam tips), Memt X5, Tennmak Dulcimer, TFZ Exclusive 5 (expensive!). - balanced sound: SoundMAGIC PL50, Tin Audio T515, Tin Audio T2, KZ ATR. - treble-focused: Seahf AWK-009, Boarseman KR25D.
Best price performance, probably goes for the ATR if you like a balanced sound or Memt X5 for a v-shaped sound. Rock Zircon are also great, but the bass is a bit overemphatised and they lack some highs and specially mids (for my taste), so they're not good "all-rounders" like other models and only sound good with some bassy genres. KZ ZS5 v1 is almost impossible to find right now, since the model being sold now is the v2, a real treble cannon that will pierce your ears for sure. But if you can find a 2nd hand KZ ZS5 v1, and plug some memory foam tips, they have an absurd price-performance ratio, real flagship killers. If you can afford them, TFZ Exclusive 5 are a step above the rest and have THE BEST bass I've ever heard while mids are still present and treble is bright & detailed but not sibilant, also build quality and comfort are 10/10.
Super excited by this drop. I was just looking for a pair of these the other day, but couldn't find them, and assumed that they had been discontinued. My Son (literally) ate one of the earphones on my original set when he was younger. Chewed it right off. I replaced them with PL30's. Been meaning to get some PL50's ever since because I loved them so much.
Didn't buy it on Massdrop. I have mine since years but I love them - very comfortable (during excercises, gym, running, bike) once well set in the ears (remember having some difficulties when trying to install them right in the ear at first but got used to it). I don't know what the price was on Massdrop but if I remember right I got mine for 60 USD-ish. Quality of sound - for the price - good. If you are active, do excercise - even the best crystal-clear-sound earphones will be a waste IMHO as you won't get much out of them when sweating your ... in the gym. So PL50's are good compromise. Surely upgrade if you are using some cheap stock earbuds. Stock foams are ok - I believe examples below are just separate cases, I've seen nothing like that with mines. Now using Comply foams and they do what they suppose to. Cable is strong and durable - never had an issue with.
Pros: Sound quality - definition, clarity throughout all ranges, separation of instruments - is absolutely great and as expected.
Cons: The provided tips are absolute trash, which will make getting the fit you need for sound quality either a dice roll, or something you have to figure out on your own at extra cost. The foam tips ones that are pre-installed were damaged on arrival before removal from the package (great QC there, see image).
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The rubber liner for the rest of the foam tips was dry rotted out of the package and falling apart, which is both gross and generally unacceptable. Not one of the silicone tips fits my ears at all. I ordered two pairs of these, both arrived with the tips in various status of being unusably damaged, despite the packages being sealed and in good shape. This is a quality control issue, plain and simple.
Like, look: I'm just going to put Complys on these and call it a day, but FFS I shouldn't have to.
This adds to last comment. I checked further and now find the left channel fails intermittently. These are total garbage!
Total crap. Fell apart right out of the package!!! A 100% waste of money. So many complaints and yet MASSDROP has taken no action---very disappointing! These are defective out of the package and should not be offered for sale.
I bought these and it said they'll ship in a month. I use some Phillips ear buds now and I got these because I just wanted some that are better than average. I'm not really an audiophile. Are they at least good? I've seen a lot of negative reviews. Thanks.
This_is_a_pretty_long_username
they are bad.
I've seen a lot of conflicting information on these, and wan't to give my perspective: The sound quality depends entirely on the fit, if the eartips make a good seal with the stem, ie need at least a day to reform to the stem once put on, and they fit your ears properly, the sound is detailed, neutral with little but still noticeable bass. I'd recomend you try them on with the tips on them already, and if they fit fine, DO NOT take them off. my input so far on the sound was with the standard size foam tips preinstalled. After I fiddled round with some of the other tips, I found only those ones fit, and putting them back on again meant they fit very loosely on the stem, and gave a tinny unpleasent sound which is probably worse than even the cheapest phone earbuds.
Because of that, I simply put them in the case and left them for a few days, when I though to have another listen, I found the foam had made a good tight fit with the stem, and the sound, was back to the sound I initially heard, and frankly, very impressive, although there wasn't much bass, the neutral and detailed sound made them enjoyable at very very low volumes, because of so much detail, I mean at 20-25% from a phone.
Simply put, if the tips fit your ears, and do not get completely destroyed by taking them off or anything else, they sound great, but if the tips don't fit the stem of the iem's properly, you will get a very tinny cardboard sound.
1k.m.p1
would it be possible to get around this problem by using comply or other aftermarket earphone tips?
lemonlimit
I'd assume yes, others have said that they fit Shure olives, which I've heard are the best. But I've also seen a picture of the pl50's with small shure tips, and it looked very similar to the size of the soundmagic medium ones, so I'm not sure which ones I would get
I have owned a pair of these and I can't rate them. Reasonably poor durability of both the cable and tips.
Received mine a coupe of days ago and indeed sound was completely bass-free, resulting in a cardboard-box sound. Obviously I had an issue with isolation so fiddled with the eartips for a while. Mine were so bad that they effectively turned into sticky rubber powder when trying to replace. Like these are an ancient batch that has sat in storage for years?
So will indeed shop for some tips. Good there are already some tips-for-tips below (this joke doesn't work in my native Finnish...). I do like their tiny size which would allow using them in winter time under a hat or a bicycle helmet + buff. I have NuForce wireless bluetooth ones and HiFiMan RE100 buds and those stick out of my ear a bit too much.
Just a quick thank you to the folks in the thread who mentioned that: 1. These were small enough to let you lay on your side with them in 2. They work with the Klipsch oval tips
I agree with the reviews stating that the included tips are mediocre. I can't say that these are (anywhere near) the best IEMs I have, but they do fit the particular use case I wanted them for, and with the Klipsch tips they sound better than the $30 paid.
Note: Not suggesting you should fall asleep with these in your ears unless you have a sleep timer to shut off the sound. Leaving earbuds playing overnight is a bad idea even at low volume.
je toujours pas reçu mon produit ? pourquoi est-ce si long ?
Just received these from the previous drop and figured I'd do quick impression.
- I have never used good iems, so take my perspective on these mid/low tier iems with a grain of salt.
BUILD: Unfortunately the foam originally installed literally falled apart when I removed it from the ear bud, I had to swap for the smaller pair of foam tips . This is disappointing as it means the pair I remove to replace or clean likely will break in the process. Other than that the quality feels nice and the included case and behind the ear attachments are well made and make them quite comfortable.
COMFORT: I have been wearing them all morning and only fell out once or twice, probably the most comfortable Barbuds I've used. I have never used foam tips so again take this with a grain of salt.
SOUND: I have a few random earbuds on hand, my HTC vive included one's are cosidered decent, and the Samsung s8 included "akg" headphones for comparison. The akg pair are unbearable, just a mess compared to the pl50s the HTC pair is run of the mill... not terrible but not great, the difference being I literally can't use the samsung/akg pair they are so bad and the sound magic pl50 is a lot gentler on the hearing end, more detail and separation vs my cheaper buds. of course they are not close to my full sized headphones, but they don't muck up the sound so much I feel like I need to blast the volume to enjoy my music, particularly in the high end, I appreciate how little sharpness there is even if it makes it boring. Overall pretty impressive for a little ear bud and will be my at work headphones for the foreseeable future. These obviously don't make amazing sound, however I can actually use them where I would rather not listen to music at all with my other ear buds.
Just received today. First impression: these are terrible! Why is it so distorted? Second impression: the sound is clear, but where are the Highs?
I remember reading reviews before I decided to purchase these; most were positive. After actually listening for around an hour sampling different types of music, I wondered, why the hell do I bother reading reviews from know-nothing hacks? The sound is actually clear, mind you, but detailing is so weak you can't expect decent sounds from the bass or the highs. Garbage memory foam tips. Replacements do the job okay. Case is nice; likely use for other iem that deserve it.
It's hard to believe they have a lower end version of these. If these come up again and you happened to enjoy how music sounds generated by IEMs/headphones/speakers then skip these. If you don't care at all, stick with the dollar store variety. Just skip this drop.
youngki
My thoughts exactly, Nice case, OK sound but not what i would call impressive. Centainly no better than the ones that came with my Iphone or $200 music player.
I just received mine today (9/27/17) They’re bad. In every way bad. I wish I could get my $30 back. The ear tips that come with them are garbage, one of the foam ones ripped apart from its inner plastic piece that attaches to the headphone itself rendering that tip useless and the rubber ones are too thin to get any type of seal. As for sound quality, they distort on bass punches and if you like to listen to rock or metal core or anything of the type...good luck hahah there are 0 highs which is weird cause they’re advertised as “clear sound” you literally cannot hear any symbols from the drums. so without highs and lows these headphones are left with Mids only. They’re bad sounding. Don’t buy them
Amusante94
I have to agree completely. Really disappointed in these. They are worse than my $20 skullcandys lol.
Have not received it:(
Mine came broken out of the box. Right piece won't work. Horrible quality control plus stock eartips are garbage, left black sticky residue on my fingers, cannot think what would have happened to my ears were they working in 1st place. SHAME ON YOU SOUNDMAGIC. NEVER BUYING AGAIN.
These headphones should be used by forensic scientists that are trying to hear recorded conversations in nightclubs. God help you if you listen to music with a wind instrument in it. If you want to know what your favourite tune would sound like through one of the first ever music players get these headphones. Had to switch back to my 10$ Panasonic's about 2 blocks from my house. Also i'm assuming they took the product picture with a microscope , they are TINY.
As someone that supported a Drop of these, I sadly cannot recommend them. Upon receiving them, I tried ALL of the different silicone and foam eartip options and they were all either too big or too small. This resulted in NEVER having a good, comfortable seal, and thus, sound quality was really bad... I really wanted to like these, but you're better off saving your $30 for a better pair of IEMs or headphones.
miendude
Il faut utiliser utiliser les embouts Earsonics , le son devient aussi bon que des Etymotic
miendude
You can just buy aftermarket ear tips (and probably should anyway)
i received my pl50 IEM, they are good , they are close to my bose sie2i. will try adding different ear buds for the bass sound. i am happy wit the purchase. Thanks for this Massdrop, but i couldn't find the clip inside the box. i tried to pull off the ear bud it got damaged. Then i kind of pulled it by rotating, it worked.
I have to say, these things just suck. My backup no name cheapies from a dept. store beat them in every possible way. I can't even give these dogs away, tried to pawn them off on my teenagers. They both took a listen and said no way. Not worth the money.
I just received my PL50, I removed the bits to put gray biflange Earsonics. I found the bass , the sound is excellent. http://www.earpad.fr/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=3&products_id=59&PHPSESSID=11c4cad9bf7b1797b7465901604c4cce
i have alot of sets, some that cost several times what i paid for these this time, or more.... i forgot how much i like these though, using oval klipsch/ety compatible tips they are comfortable, with hybrid clones(sony hybrid real ones hard to find..) they are easy to forget you have in, they EQ amazing, and driven directly from my note3 they still sound excellent, no problem driving them at all...my hf5's are more detailed but, i think these have better bass impact(though, since they are BA they arent gonna have the bass of dynamic...dont expect that)
the pl50 was my first "Audiophile" purchase, and, i never regretted it even once, they lasted me 5 or so years before one ear stopped working...
i just wish they made a version with a metal(aluminum?) shell, longer cord and headset option (mic/vol cont) would make them perfect for my on the go needs...as it is, i will be using these in bed alot... cant tell you how many times i have fallen asleep in pl50's to waken and not even realize they where still in... :)
Bought them during the last drop in may, very detailed and precise mids, blew me away honestly for the price I paid. They took a few days of getting used to, mainly because the bass is a bit weak which gives it a bit of a tin can sound, but after that they're great.
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It does sound a lot better if you get a good seal but that's exactly my problem, getting a good seal. I put the biggest silicone tips that came with them and they still feel pretty loose in my ears. Left ear is fine usually unless I tug on it. It's mostly my right ear that is unusual I think because when I push it in, it starts sliding back out as soon as I let go which lets outside air seep in fucking up the sound. It makes the whole thing unbalanced with my left ear. It's not that big of a deal, but getting higher quality tips is definitely on my list because I absolutely love them.
oxysoft
the stock tips(the sil ones at least) are..shite for most people, honestly recommend http://www.ebay.com/itm/12pcs-S-M-L-Hybrid-Replacement-Set-Ear-Tips-Earbuds-for-Sony-XBA-MDR-DR-Series-/322576184619?epid=1222923090&hash=item4b1b09f52b:g:TUkAAMXQCgpRoVf-
as an example, you can find them cheaper and clones/knockoffs if you dig around ebay a bit, another option my buddy highly recommends is
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161171521702
im actually using tips like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/152498116492 i like the small ones they seem to work really well with these even better then the hybrids!!!
hope this can help, also you could try the foamies lostearbuds(the ebayseller for the last 2 items) as his stuff in my exp tends to be good quality(hes got a long standing rep as a great seller google his name, hes well known on headfi, anythingbutipod, and other audiophile centric forums ;)
47 purchases says a lot about this item...hmmm
bsastor
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