Click to view our Accessibility Statement or contact us with accessibility-related questions
Showing 1 of 96 conversations about:
OSUgrad1992
31
May 13, 2018
bookmark_border
Spyderco S30V sucks. I have been accused of being a fanboy (I own twice as many Spydies as all other knive brands combined) and I still say this. The S30V that my Osborne 940 is made with is great so I know it can be done, but I have 5 Spyderco S30V blades (including the PM2) and they just don’t perform anywhere even close to others in XHP, S110V, or HAP40. Yes I know those are all premium steel compared to S30V, my point is they are worth the extra money IMO. The only other Spyderco steel I really don’t like is BD1, will never give it and S30V a chance.
Ap717
32
May 13, 2018
bookmark_border
OSUgrad1992Yes you sound like a fanboy lol either that or Spyderco must hate you lol no problems with any of spydercos s30v...yet my BM griptilian s30v edge chipped after EDC-ing it for 6 months so explain that. The worse I've had was ZT Elmax... Chipped from first usage trying to open an Amazon box lol
ChristopherCashell
145
May 13, 2018
bookmark_border
OSUgrad1992I've had different experiences. I'm also a bit of a Spyderco fanboy. It's odd, because Spyderco knives are rarely the prettiest, rarely the cheapest, and frequently don't match exactly what I want at any given time, but I own more Spyderco knives than anything else, and I have a Spyderco knife in my pocket more often than anything except my Victorinox SAK Classic.
That said, I've had quite a few Spydercos with S30V, and so far I've been quite happy with them. They've all performed in line with my other S30V knives, and right in-line with what I would expect with S30V (a high-end, premium steel that is better than most, if not quite the "best" anymore).
That said, I've had quite a few Spydercos with S30V, and so far I've been quite happy with them. They've all performed in line with my other S30V knives, and right in-line with what I would expect with S30V (a high-end, premium steel that is better than most, if not quite the "best" anymore).
OSUgrad1992
31
May 13, 2018
bookmark_border
Ap717Hmm, chipped a BM but without telling how and chipped Elmax cutting paper tape, nothing fishy about those stories. ZT had hardness /tempering issues with their first attempts with Elmax but I seriously doubt any chipped cutting tape on a box.
But your point is totally logically valid...you had issues with a single Benchmade and a completely unrelated brand knife in a totally different steel and no issues with some unknown number of Spyderco knives in S30V = Spyderco S30V is awesome. I completely bow to your obviously superior logic and debate skils and admit that Spyderco S30V is the greatest value is knife steels available today.
Not ;-p
By the way, S30V was developed with input from Chris Reeve, but after actually using it for a while he went back and requested changed, hence the existence of S35vn, another vastly superior steel.
But your point is totally logically valid...you had issues with a single Benchmade and a completely unrelated brand knife in a totally different steel and no issues with some unknown number of Spyderco knives in S30V = Spyderco S30V is awesome. I completely bow to your obviously superior logic and debate skils and admit that Spyderco S30V is the greatest value is knife steels available today.
Not ;-p
By the way, S30V was developed with input from Chris Reeve, but after actually using it for a while he went back and requested changed, hence the existence of S35vn, another vastly superior steel.
OSUgrad1992
31
May 13, 2018
bookmark_border
ChristopherCashellI am glad you are happy with your knives in S30V, I truly am. I however paid the extra for S110V in my Para3 and wish I had upgraded for my Para2. It is just my opinion that S30V is a joke at its price point. For instance I have to different Al Mar knives I carry more often than any of my S30V Spidies. One is in AUS8 the other is sandwiched ZDP-189 and I prefer them for different reasons. The AUS8 dulls quickly compared to S30V but can be stropped back to a mirror edge in just a couple minutes and the ZDP holds an edge forever in comparison to S30V but requires diamond hones to sharpen if it gets truly dull. Both are better values in my opinion.
What neither of them do is have micro-chipping when I put a razor edge on them. Maybe I am just not good with shaprening S30V, but I have no issues with 440c, AUS8, 154CM, M390, Elmax, HAP40, XHP, 1095, A2, S35vn, D2, Sleipner, VG10, orZDP-189, so I have to say it might be the steel.
What neither of them do is have micro-chipping when I put a razor edge on them. Maybe I am just not good with shaprening S30V, but I have no issues with 440c, AUS8, 154CM, M390, Elmax, HAP40, XHP, 1095, A2, S35vn, D2, Sleipner, VG10, orZDP-189, so I have to say it might be the steel.
Ap717
32
May 14, 2018
bookmark_border
OSUgrad1992I guess I need to explain. I work in an office so everyday usage isn't that hard. Often opening letters open cardboard boxes. Sometimes zip ties and hard plastic packaging . Don't get me wrong it's more of a nick than anything on the Grip but it still happened while my other 5 spyderco knives with s30v has no nicks or chips.
The ZT chipped on a hard plastic packaging... Packaging often holding electronics. It was my first ZT so I was deeply disappointed. After research I did hear ZT had heat treatment issues as you have mentioned. Still since then I don't have much love ZT (as you do with spyderco lol).
By far my favorite metal is bhoeler m390 or however you spell it for everyday usage. (also have the Doug Ritter mini grip)
And yes I knew Chris reeves made s30v. I just got an s35vn (massdrop gent knife) knife so I'll be testing how much superior it is. :)
The ZT chipped on a hard plastic packaging... Packaging often holding electronics. It was my first ZT so I was deeply disappointed. After research I did hear ZT had heat treatment issues as you have mentioned. Still since then I don't have much love ZT (as you do with spyderco lol).
By far my favorite metal is bhoeler m390 or however you spell it for everyday usage. (also have the Doug Ritter mini grip)
And yes I knew Chris reeves made s30v. I just got an s35vn (massdrop gent knife) knife so I'll be testing how much superior it is. :)
rob-okray
185
Jun 18, 2018
bookmark_border
OSUgrad1992Wonder how folks with plain old steel got by for so many hundreds of years what with wars and having to butcher meat and such?
OSUgrad1992
31
Jun 18, 2018
bookmark_border
rob-okrayIf you want to get snarky we can go there, but for the record you are showing your ignorance. First off butchers didn’t use stainless steel and and they didn’t want knives hardened to Rockwell 55+. They used carbon steel that was fairly mild. They had large sharpening stones and even wheels or paid for sharpening services. During the day they would pause often to strop their knives and they usually had more than one of each type of knife they used with each type being used for specific purposes.
For battle purposes you don’t want super steels either as most soldiers can’t put a proper edge on a bayonet or knife. Most edged weapons in war are used to poke holes with the pointy end or chop through brush while on the move. Even today machete are make with milder steel than a pocket knife as trying to sharpen a blade that long in a super steel would take far too long as well as cost too much for most people to justify the beating they would take.
For battle purposes you don’t want super steels either as most soldiers can’t put a proper edge on a bayonet or knife. Most edged weapons in war are used to poke holes with the pointy end or chop through brush while on the move. Even today machete are make with milder steel than a pocket knife as trying to sharpen a blade that long in a super steel would take far too long as well as cost too much for most people to justify the beating they would take.
rob-okray
185
Jun 18, 2018
bookmark_border
OSUgrad1992Wow, talk about missing the point. You must be obtuse to the point of opacity. The point is, you are whining about either a QC issue or the difference between weather 99 or 100 Angels can fit on the head of a pin. Neither of which is Germain to the day to day requirements of steel. While Super Steel is a convenience, it is hardly a necessity. To put it in terms you can comprehend, since you wanted to go there: You WANT it, but you don't NEED it. You might want to consult a dictionary for clarity.
OSUgrad1992
31
Jun 18, 2018
bookmark_border
rob-okrayOh I got your point, but it was juvenile at such a level that I chose to respond to the literal remarks of your plebeian comment instead.
Super steels have their place, I love not having to sharpen knives EDC knives all the time, that said my primary knife when I am hiking/camping will almost always be in plain old 1095 carbon steel (TOPS or ESEE) as I can easily touch it up in the field if nick or roll the edge. I also EDC a Rexford RUT as I don’t like wasting expensive steel breaking down boxes. I have an Al Mar in AUS8 that I carry often as well, awesome knife regardless of the steel.
If S30v makes you happy then buy all means buy it and love it, you are entitled to, but don’t get all but hurt and snipe at others who don’t agree with you.
Super steels have their place, I love not having to sharpen knives EDC knives all the time, that said my primary knife when I am hiking/camping will almost always be in plain old 1095 carbon steel (TOPS or ESEE) as I can easily touch it up in the field if nick or roll the edge. I also EDC a Rexford RUT as I don’t like wasting expensive steel breaking down boxes. I have an Al Mar in AUS8 that I carry often as well, awesome knife regardless of the steel.
If S30v makes you happy then buy all means buy it and love it, you are entitled to, but don’t get all but hurt and snipe at others who don’t agree with you.
Drop Refurbished
Like-new products you can trustDrop Rewards
Get $5 for every 500 points you earn! Learn more
Drop Keyboard Club
Become a member and expand your keycap collectionCollaborate With Us
For Brands & DesignersFollow Drop