If the Fuck combustion community it's anything to go by, I don't think ppl are worried about it as beta testing. I just think 7 th floor made a product for no one. There are already excellent balloon vapes and the ssv and dbv were top rated whip vapes. Arizer is the Jack of ago trades for ppl that want affordable. I think the fc community was really hoping for a portable lsv for their next product instead of trying to play catchup with other high end vapes..