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TuxKey
456
Sep 6, 2017
hi Guys i downloaded the manual trying to find out if programming this board is as easy as the input club boards or HASU controllers. in the manual it says go to url; http://123.57.250.164:3000/tada68 what follows is an error because i don't have Flash installed " To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 11.1.0 or greater is installed. "
I don't want to install Flash on my system thank you very much , i like a cool running system with a minimum of back-doors viruses and other crap i associate with Flash.
Does anyone know if this board is programmable using a different solution that doesn't involve Bloody Flash ?
G3orge
54
Sep 6, 2017
TuxKeyConfiguration through flash and application posted on some IP address sounds very bad. Probably soon will be unavailable.
I think I will wait for zealios drop to test them with K-Type and K-Type should be soon - 63 days till deadline, I hope there will be no delays.
dankulus
2
Sep 6, 2017
TuxKeyBump. I also want to know.
pwxn
3
Sep 6, 2017
TuxKeyI have this board, I programmed mine with qmk.
arda
239
Sep 6, 2017
pwxnHey there, can you please elaborate more ? I'm new to this, and Googling brought me that qmk is an open-source firmware: http://qmk.fm/
So do I have to follow this, and overwrite default firmware ? https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/tada68
And while overwriting, I need to edit the C code, right? https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/keyboards/tada68/keymaps/default/keymap.c#L12
Also, is there any way to revert back if something fails ?
Thanks in advance,
banana_bread
153
Sep 6, 2017
pwxnCould you please provide some information on how you got your KB to work with QMK, specifically how difficult it is for someone (like myself) with little to no programming experience?
I've looked into getting QMK for my keyboard but it seemed like such a daunting task.
Any input would be appreciated.
Amnesia1187
544
Sep 8, 2017
banana_breadBuilding QMK is mildly complex, but if you are on Win10 creators or Linux, it's still quite easy to do. The hardest part is just getting used to doing the key layout in a text editor IMO. But basics for win10 are you install a Linux subsystem. You clone the git repo (just run 1 command to copy the source to your machine). Then you setup your keymaps. Then you run the right bat file and it just builds it for you and creates the firmware file to copy to the Tada.
Tthe actual process to install QMK is extremely easy with the Tada. Most boards you have to get into DFU mode and flash em directly. With the Tada, you press the button on the underside and the board will mount as a drive. There is only 1 file there which is the firmware you delete the old one, copy over a new one and then hit esc (DO NOT eject the keyboard drive or you will have a bad day).
banana_bread
153
Sep 8, 2017
Amnesia1187Thank you so much for this. Appreciate the explanation.
Amnesia1187
544
Sep 8, 2017
banana_breadI was bored so i decided to take some screenshots. So to start you will copy the default folder and make your own. I'm sure you can guess which is mine:
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Once you have your own directory to work in, you will edit the keymap.c file to whatever layout you want. It's not hard, just a bit time consuming (mine is a bit more complex as some of those keycodes like FN_HLa/b are custom codes I added below this, but those ARE NOT necessary).
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Once you have your keymap ready, then you just launch the Ubuntu command line and navigate to the directory to run "make flashbin"
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If you are successful you should see a result like the following. The output will go to the root folder of the QMK folder as shown below. The specific file that you copy to the keyboard is just the FLASH.bin
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After that you just mount the board, delete the old flash.bin (you must delete and add, you cannot just copy over cause of limited memory) add the new one and hit esc. TADA! QMK Tada68.
arda
239
Sep 8, 2017
Amnesia1187Wow, thank you for the detailed explanation, it's highly appreciated!
banana_bread
153
Sep 9, 2017
Amnesia1187Dude thanks so much for taking the time to do this. I'm definitely going to try this out. Hopefully I can figure it out but your explanation and screens are more than any tutorial I've seen.
banana_bread
153
Sep 9, 2017
Amnesia1187This is a noob question, but can you clarify 2 things: The Keymap.c file, can you tell me what application you are using to edit it? Also are you in windows editing that file? Would a simple text editor work or do you recommend something like visual studio code?
Can you clarify how you are running the ubuntu prompt. Is that a virtual machine running ubuntu? (I have very little experience w/ anything outside of windows).
Thanks!
Amnesia1187
544
Sep 9, 2017
banana_breadThe ubuntu thing is part of the Linux Subsystem for Windows which is why the creators update is important. The instructions for it are here:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide
The window in my screenshot is Visual Studio Code, I just like the color coding, any editor would work realistically. And yes everything was done in windows. Only the actual compile uses the the linux subsystem.
I also forgot to mention after you get the linux system installed and clone the repo with git, you also need to run the init script in the linux shell to make it install the build tools it needs.
The full instructions are here: https://docs.qmk.fm/getting_started_build_tools.html
It also looks like they are now recommending MSYS2 instead of the ubuntu command line like I'm using. It seems simple enough but I haven't done it that way yet.
banana_bread
153
Sep 9, 2017
Amnesia1187THOUSAND thanks for this clear explanation. Seriously. I've scoured the internet for a basic QMK tutorial and yours is the best so far.
If i can get this working I will likely do a proper write up and will be sure to give you credit for the assistance. Thanks again.
TuxKey
456
Sep 9, 2017
Amnesia1187i’m on mac most of the time and on Linux the rest no windows for me. Building your Layout on Text Editor that’s old school.. i’m using a TMK Keymap Editor for my TMK Alt controller for FC660C from Hasu.
i like that it has visual klik layout and that i can download the file and simply flash it on. i believe there is an option to do it with a file and have way way more options. Just search for “hasu controller fc660c” and follow the GeekHack link it wil point you to what i’m using (for reference or if your curios)
Qmk sounds a bit complexer but doable i think i would need to spend more time but would get there eventually it’s not like setting up a samba server using kerberos hahaha (even that is not that difficult after practice) I do like a board that is able to use different firmware / software to program leaves options in case something goes away.. but i decided to wait for the WhiteFox to come to EU and then buy one if it has the Vanilla layout. only thing missing is that it does not have backlighting and that's something i started to like even if my current two FC660C/M boards do not have it. If it wasn't for the customs fees of 33% and the fact that i have the K-type coming i would go for this one .. finally a good deal from Massdrop..
TuxKey
456
Sep 9, 2017
Amnesia1187good job.. Massdrop should save this Howto nice going mate.. i don't use QMK now but who knows in the near future ;-) Thanks for sharing..
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