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TEAC CR-H101 CD Receiver

TEAC CR-H101 CD Receiver

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So it was delivered last September, when I unboxed it and hooked it up. Paradigm Atom v3 pair that had been reconed by Paradigm after the foam surround rotted.
I've got a Peachtree audio sending signal to a pair of Paradigm Shift A2s so I haven't really listened to this unit. I did so last night and it seems the left channel is down some measure of volume.
I thought it was the drivers I sent in so I took them apart and checked the crossovers and connections, then switched speaker cables, aux cable, played a CD, listened to white noise and mono recordings, the radio, did a factory reset, and compared the balance against the little Lepai A2020+.
The Lepai was rock solid with everything, and going through the same troubleshooting steps didn't change anything.
Best of luck to anyone who gets this unit on a drop. It feels and look solid but something is wrong somewhere and no amp that I've owned or installed or even listened to, integrated or not has had this level/bias/balance issue.
UPDATE 17SEP2018: I sent it in to Precision Sound Service in Santa Monica after calling and speaking to JR. There was a level issue with the amp, and there was no bias control or adjustment on the board. Onkyo owns TEAC now (as of August apparently) and they didn't have the parts to fix it, so Precision sent my unit back to them and they shipped out a new one to them, which they then shipped on to me. It was brand new (not a refurbished unit) and everything works properly. I've tested it extensively on every input and it's performing beautifully.
Scoff if you must at the compact disc format, but I personally find it the perfect medium. Much more durable, portable, and lower maintenance than vinyl. Less ephemeral than high-res digital, and given the staggering variety of music on CD, significantly more opportunities for exploration, discovery, and learning about music of all kinds. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has spent years lovingly building a CD collection that will continue to please his ears for hopefully many years to come.
That said, I bought this TEAC CD receiver a year ago at the full price of $500. It was pretty much everything I needed - CD player, line in, sub pre-out, 4 ohm speaker output, headphone output, and a compact footprint for the small space where I planned to set it up. The unit I ordered turned out to be defective. With the "loudness" mode turned on, clicks, squeaks, and snaps riddled the sound. After literally MONTHS of arguing with TEAC while they diddled around with the defective receiver in their shop, waiting for parts to arrive from Japan, I finally convinced them to send me a replacement unit at no cost. The new one works fine. I wouldn't call it outstanding - four out of five stars, maybe - but it is reliable and delivers clean, detailed sound. It's not a pleasure to operate - the controls and display more utilitarion than sexy or smooth - but it's not too irritating either. Matched with Onkyo bookshelf speakers and a Polk Audio 10" sub, the sound is plenty powerful for my taste and the small bedroom where I use it.
This is an excellant product . It drives my Allison speakers with no clipping.
I can't speak to this particular product, but as a buyer of the TEAC AI-101da, TEAC's quality is pretty bad and their support is non-existent. For the ai-101da, myself and seemingly over half the buyers had issues with the volume knob within the first month completely ruining the product. It would randomly jump to full volume for no apparent reason and blow you away, possibly ruining your audio equipment. I emailed their support and they simply ignored me. I then called them and had someone say they'd call me back. Never heard from them again.
CDs? I'm holding out for the 8-Track version.
I wrote about this in my subthread below, but just so it isn't missed - the DAC portion here, at least via USB, does in fact support 32kHz playback, but only if your software is set to play back at 24-bit. If you send it a 16-bit, 32kHz stream, it'll choke and distort. This won't matter to most people, I suppose - even if you have 32kHz content, you could easily resample it on the fly in real time in foobar2000 with SoX plugin, and I'm sure there is similar software on other platforms - but it's nice to know what exactly your hardware is capable of.
bilditup1
Alternatively: using ASIO drivers and the ASIO-compatible software (I'm using the output plugin for foobar2000), it works without any distortion, as long as you're using TEAC's native drivers, not ASIO4ALL. That said, I've run into some random problems with ASIO where 'the buffer couldn't be created' or something and nothing would play. I'm not sure what could cause this (perhaps different software taking control of the device temporarily?) but this could be another option.
This is only usable in a very small space. As has been said many times before, the power output is puny so you either need a small space or extremely sensitive speakers to get any decent volume.
That being said, it's a nice compact all-in-one unit as long as everything works. I've looked at some Yamaha and Onkyo alternatives and they don't provide the same price/features/compactness. Just got mine from the last drop and the CD player doesn't detect discs ... gonna see if Massdrop will take it back.
I would so buy this if supported SACD . Sigh.
does anyone else get a kick out of how the cd drive blocks the vent holes on the top?
I really wanted this but it's just 10 watts a channel into an 8 ohm load. I am a speaker designer and have nothing that I can drive with this!
Wow, this thing really misses the boat for me. Here's what I want: USB out. That's a must so I can rip CDs. Secondly, a phono preamp so I can rip vinyl. I don't know what Teac was thinking when they came up with this one. Count me out.
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BigCabDaddy
Wow, this thing really misses the boat for me. Here's what I want: a red skidoo with pontoons so I can use it both in the summer on the lake, and winter on the snow. I don't know what Teac was thinking when they came up with this one. Count me out.
SquidProQuo
Well, you know, it's hi rez and has a remote so it has to be awesome.
Interesting package but not quite the right mix for me. I think I need 2 optical inputs (TV and Chromecast Audio) and at least 40W into 8 ohms per side. Leaning towards an Onkyo 8140 for my entertainment room.
This is a nice, quality unit, but for less you can have a true high-end bargain integrated amp (tube hybrid too) with twice the power. Check out Musical Paradise, specifically their incredible MP-303 integrated amplifier! No, I don't work for them. I'm just an audio enthusiast and audiophile always on the lookout for 'best bang per buck' equipment. Cheers!
HamRadioANDAudioNut
The MP-303 does not have a CD player
I got this on the last drop and it sounds amazing with my Vintage Canton Quinto 510 speakers (4-8 ohms). However, I can't get the driver to work for it on my PC. The installation went smoothly but no signal. Any suggestions?
Very much looking forward to the arrival of this one. With space being at a bit of a premium at the moment, I’m considering pairing this up with some KEF Q150 bookshelf speakers. Does that sound like a good choice in the under $500/pair category? It’s been a while since I’ve been in the speaker market. Is there anything else out there that will deliver similar sound quality for less money when listening to classic/alt rock?
what's a "CD" ?
I like this receiver, I like Teacher equipment, but I purchased 2 of Harman Kardon HK3490 receivers 120 watts per channel, high current amp, $299 each. What a buy.
I want to add a cd receiver to my desk setup and this one looks pretty good but first can anyone recommend some good alternatives? I heard Marantz has a pretty good one so I want to cover all my bases before I decide.
I was looking at this as a possible solution for a small footprint living room sound system.
However, I'm a bit concerned about the power rating. This Teac is rated at 26 watts at 4 ohms, while my AR-215PS speakers recommend 20-100 watts at 8 ohms. (https://www.crutchfield.com/S-BqZCi97dOA3/p_058AR215B/Acoustic-Research-AR-215PS.html) Will this be an issue? As I understand it, this isn't particularly harmful, but the sound level will be lower, and raising the volume to compensate will result in diminished quality. Is that correct?
mgeoffriau
Those speakers have 89dB efficiency which means that at just ONE watt they will EACH be as loud as a gas-powered lawn mower. I have the TEAC AI-101DA which appears to have the same amplifier in it, and I run Polk Audio Monitor 60 tower speakers (https://www.crutchfield.com/S-3rhwm0d9aZV/p_107MON60B/Polk-Audio-Monitor-60-Black.html) with no trouble at all. This amp is capable of running those speakers at volume levels that are way above what's comfortable and safe for our ears. My speakers are very slightly more efficient than your AR-215PS, but only slightly: 90dB vs. 89dB. The Polks are also rated for 20-200 watts which is way above what these TEAC amplifiers can produce and yet I have had no problems at all.
Now to the question of sound quality when pushing the volume up close to the amp's full capacity; I think because these are "class D" type amps, there isn't any degradation of the sound quality as it approaches its limits. I may be wrong, but from what I have heard, this type of amp is just as clear and distortion-free at its peak capacity as it is at low power. So I think concerns about diminishing sound quality that does occur in tube and traditional transistor amplifiers do not apply to this type of design. I don't know everything about class D amps, so someone who thinks I'm wrong about that should feel free to correct me on that point.
I think this looks like a really sweet system and I'll envy you if you get it. I think it would be an excellent match for your reasonably efficient speakers.
Annndy
I read up on class D amps and I feel it is important to post this update to my previous response with two brief points. First, class D amps can indeed distort just like other amps as they are pushed to produce more power. So if you are looking for very high volumes this and other relatively low-powered class D amps would become distorted at close to full power. Second, this receiver appears to use the same amplifier module as their bottom of the line integrated amp the AI101DA. That amp is not particularly low distortion so I have to say it's probably not up to "audiophile" standards for full size speaker use above low, safe listening levels. I have the AI101DA and I find it perfectly wonderful for driving large speakers, but I use it at relatively low levels. That small amp also does, I feel, a very good job in the role of headphone amp. But if you want to crank out the jams on less than super efficient speakers and you are looking for distortion-free power, this isn't the right model.
High-performance class-D amplifier delivers 26 watts + 26 watts.....
As vague as it gets!
Besides the CD player on this one, how does this compare to the TEAC AI-301DA?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/teac-ai-301da-integrated-amplifier-with-usb-dac
I purchased one of those during the last drop, and just hooked it up to my TV stereo system. After about 20 minutes of use, it still sounds a little wooly and shouty. But I expect that to settle out after a little use. I also notice that there's a little latency with the TV image when taking a signal through the optical input and DAC. This is with the AI-301DA.
The AI-301DA uses an IcePower class D amplifier. The CR-H101 uses a TPA-3118 class D amplifier chip.
Any opinions on which sounds nicer?
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Hey, thanks for your reply, Annndy. Really helpful.
You know, I also have the AI-101DA. I didn't know it uses the same chip as this one.
I gave the 101 a try in different system I have and, honestly, wasn't impressed. I found it sounded stiff and somewhat devoid of emotional expression. It didn't breathe, and the music didn't ebb and flow.
I actually packed it up after a few weeks and it's been sitting in its box ever since.
Maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance, but I just didn't warm up to what I was hearing. I swapped it out for a SMSL Q5 Pro, and think that sounds much more musical than the 101 in this system (Amazon Echo Dot into the 3.5mm analog input, driving CEntance Master Class speakers).
Now, I'm using the 301 in a different system, one amplifying my TVs digital output, driving a pair of Klipsch F20 speakers. It's a different system, but I like it much better that what the 101 was giving me.
So maybe I'm not missing anything by sticking with the 301. I should give the 101 another shake, though, in case it was a system matching issue.
Thanks for your input!
K.T.N
I must revise my original assessment of the 301 and 101 - the AI-101DA is not particularly good compared to the AI-301DA . I turned the 101 up and noticed it is really quite distorted and nowhere near as nice sounding as the 301. I use the smaller AI-101DA as a desktop amp and when I use it to run a pair of NHT Superones at relatively low volumes it is perfectly fine. But when I turn it up, even to loud but relatively short-term safe levels, I can really hear the distortion.
This looks like it belongs in my truck dash!
Rack ears and a front USB would have sold this to me.
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Indeed it is - love the photo - but this little guy isn't quite wide enough, right? The brackets you'd need to get it in the rack would take up more visual space than the unit itself. It seems like it would look inelegant in there.
bilditup1
Yes, it would likely look strange.
I got in on this drop the last time, and have been using it for about a month. It is pretty compelling as an all-in-one unit. Great for when e.g. you're doing OS upgrades and such, like I was earlier this week - just pop in a CD and go. Honestly, when was the last time you even did that? It's a strangely great feeling. Even the noisiness of the loading is comforting, in some way. I was previously using an Audioengine D22 as my desktop amp. That's a class AB amp with better ratings - those they give here are for 4 ohm speakers, which is far less efficient than most you're most likely going to be using, and at 1% THD, which I don't find terribly honest - and should sound less harsh. If you're buying speakers for use with this unit, get efficient ones. Regardless though, it is probably 'powerful enough' before distorting for normal people not trying to intentionally damage their hearing, so more potentially concerning is the potential harshness. I didn't A/B these with the N22 but I don't think it's that much harsher? unless I use the onboard DAC (which I've tried via the CD function only) and even then I'm not 100% sure. (For computer audio, I'm using an ODAC revB from HeadnHifi Walter). I have found that a CD will sound louder compared to an external 2.1Vrms DAC, fwiw. In any case, I still think the unit is pretty usable, but hopefully will make the time to AB with the N22 soon. Even if it turns out that I prefer the N22 consistently though, I don't think I'd count this as a bad buy at $300 shipped (though not at MSRP; MSRP is absolutely ludicrous). This is a far more versatile, if much more expensive, unit, and can be deployed in many situations in a pinch, thanks to the presence of the CD player, FM radio (we laugh, but it can come in handy), Optical (great with say a bedroom TV + discrete speakers, or a Chromecast Audio, which I plan on trying soon), Bluetooth (3.0, but it has AptX, so I don' think this really matters), and especially the remote. It might be a good fit for, say, our family room, where critical listening is less important than my desktop, but compactness is and ease of use is paramount. As for the other functions - I tried the radio for kicks, too. It works, I guess, but I don't have a proper antenna setup for FM radio anymore, so reception was very poor. Honestly I would have preferred their including some kind of basic tone control, or even better, a DLNA client. I doubt anybody getting in on this drop is interested in listening to the radio, which mostly broadcasts 192kbps MP3s these days anyway. I suppose for the occasional news segment (and then last I checked the only option nowadays for news on FM is NPR or maybe Pacifica, and obviously neither of those are for everyone). I have not tried the headphone output yet, though I'm glad it's there - though that said, I think I would have preferred a line-level output, so the CD and a DAC could potentially be used as part of a larger system. I suppose using an adapter and pushing the volume near max can work, but that is obviously inelegant and probably won't sound very good. The remote is a stunted little thing - it works, but I wish it was a bit bigger. Don't lose it, as some functions, like muting, changing display info, etc, can only be accessed by remote, as far as I can tell. Seeking is accomplished by holding down the forward and back buttons - there is a bit of a delay before this registered, more than I'm used to nowadays, but perhaps this how things used to be. I've found the Bluetooth connection to be stable, but didn't really try to put it through its paces - the unit doesn't have an external antenna, so it probably doesn't have great range, but hopefully it's adequate. This unit has a clock function, complete with sleep and wake-on (alarm?) functionality, which is a nice touch, though it's kind of difficult to set. The screen is nice, but unfortunately on my desktop, where it's ~1 ft away from my face, it appears a bit washed out from above. Viewed straight on it's much more contrasty, but I'd have to move back a few feet to be able to experience that. There is a dimmer, but I find that anything less than max is not legible at normal desktop distance. Other than that...I don't know. I kind of wish the front handle-bars were removable - it's not like they're large enough to grip. I guess it makes the front look less boring, but it's kind of tacky, especially when viewed from above, instead of head-on. As is that stupid Hi-Res Audio sticker that comes on everything these days, which everyone should rip off straight away. I like the grille on top and being able to see into the case , and it should provide for marginally better ventilation. There's a bit a delay of about a second or two when turning this on , comparable to a large AV receiver, which I find annoying compared to something with a simple knob or switch, like the N22. Oh, speaking of AV receivers, according to the spec sheet at least, this doesn't support 32kHz input. In my experience, most AV receivers still do, surprisingly enough. Really though, this won't matter unless you're listening to old long-play DATs, or like. An SNES modded to have an SPDIF output. Hmm. This turned into a bit of a ramble. I guess I needed to get that out. In any case, I'm glad that this is still being dropped here. It is a sleek little thing with tons of functionality, with nothing else really comparable at this size and price point - even if it isn't perfect. If you don't think you need all the functionality here, or want more power for your money, then you have many other, better options. But if you need an all-in-one machine that's loud enough for most and stylish to boot, well, you've found it.
bilditup1
Quick follow-up here. I didn't find the internal DAC+Amp on this to be much different than the ODAC or O2 (using a K7XX, 1x gain, and my regular speakers). 50% on the volume pot on the O2 is equivalent to about...25? on the CR-H101? I'll have to try it again to make sure. Also, I found that the ODAC does in fact support unresampled 32kHz data, which is not really a documented feature. The DAC of the CR-H101 does recognize 32kHz signals but doesn't play them back properly - there's a lot of distortion and clipping.
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bilditup1
Quick follow-up! I just tried it again, and if you set the output of foobar2000 to 24-bit, 32kHz plays back perfectly. If you set the output to 16-bit, it'll be full of distortion. As I'm pretty sure? that all that happens when you play back 16-bit streams at 24-bit is that that they're padded with a bunch of zeros, and I'm pretty sure most people will just leave this setting at 24-bit all the time, I think we can say that 32kHz play back is more or less supported!
Why the funky USB input? Is that like a friggin' printer cable USB?
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If the connection is only used to connect to a computer/device, it doesn't really need to be all that robust since, like a printer, you plug it in once and forget about it. This is short-sighted kit, which ever plug you put on the back.
MF_Suspect
OK. Shit happens though, and generally micro USB is more annoying to connect. Of all things to nitpick, and I did a fair bit of that in my rambling review above, this is probably the least relevant. It even comes with a USB cable in the box...
I'd like to see the PD-501HR at some point.
Such good specs, barring the Bluetooth 3.0 implementation. Just why are most of Teac's products stuck at 3.0?
Also, I have quite a number of CDs; would have been sold if this had a changer. At least a 3 CD changer would have been great.
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Oh range definitely is a variant with protocol version @bilditup1. In fact, one of the major revisions of BT5 over BT4 is range!
I agree with you on the power front on the transmitter, since it'd be hooked to AC. However, for BT4.0 LE, both the receiver and transmitter must be capable as well (though I have mostly seen sensors to use LE). Since the TEAC's transmitter is only 3.0, it would neither be Low Energy compliant, not have the transmission bit rate (24Mbps) advantage. However, this is irrelevant if LE is not used for audio devices, but yes, protocol revisions do bring about range enhancements.
hoodafukisalice
Hmm. Re range, that means it must be a hardware level change. In any case BT3.0's should be adequate within the same room. Regardless, I can just try it and report back (not home atm though). Right, I didn't mention LE as I didn't think it was relevant. Max bitrate is the same between 3.0 and 4.0, but regardless nobody is making use of it in the audio domain.
As if people still use cd’s.....Balderdash!
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Tragique
Depending on your taste in music, streaming doesn't cut it all the time for the esoteric stuff. So I say Poppycock to you! What foolery you speak! Prattle on with your marlarkey, but we know better.
Cloaca
Foolery you say? Tom, is that you?
Just received the shipping notice for this drop. A couple of weeks ahead of schedule! This is awesome as I bought it as a housewarming gift for our daughter. She'll get it along with a mint vintage Dual turntable, an NAD phono preamp with USB A/D, and a pair of KEF Uni-Q bookshelf speakers--all stuff I have been secretly gathering for her first real hi-fil system. Hope this Teac sounds half-decent.
Superdad
Your user handle checks out.
I don't get the use for USB and cd player in the same product. If conect to youre computer you have a cd player for youre hifi system
lucpaquet123
I have a tablet attached to mine - no CD player. Same thing with a phone. For that matter, none of my PCs have one either (I share a portable between them). And neither do our cars. Man, I'm old.