junkieguruJust a heads up this is not a very good turntable, I would recommend an Audio Technica AT-LP60 or Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB They are both great options for beginners.
Just do your self a favor and don't buy this :)
junkieguruRega RP1 - the extra cash is well worth it - night & day in terms of build quality - separate phono preamp required though. I wouldn't risk my vinyl with the shite cartridges they put on these. A Rega will last you for years or until you get the upgrade bug. If you can't afford a Rega, then wait until you can as this will likely be a bad experiment for anyone getting in to/back in to vinyl. Not sure who votes for these turntables, but man have the last few been bad choices.
junkieguruAT120 and U-Turn are generally the 2 recommended NEW entry level TTs (AT60 is notoriously garbage) U-Turn is made in MURICA and has excellent customer service. Reviews always bring upgradeability into the mix and the AT120 probably beats the UTurn in that regard, it's essentially a replica of the Technics 1200. But they can both accept pretty well regarded cartridges. I personally feel its unnecessary info for an entry level TT because you're never going to put a Ferrari engine in a Ford Festiva. And it also depends on what equipment you have already, like speaker, receiver, etc. Sure, a Rega RP1 is great but if you're playing into $100 speakers...that's backwards to me. For some reason the vinyl community is the exact opposite of all consumer goods. You rarely hear someone ask the opinion of say..a $120 Blu-Ray player and get 100 responses telling you to get a $600 blu ray player.
The vinyl community is always recommending something double the price of what you want to spend so it's difficult to get a legit answer.
BeerCanChickenI assume you mean the U-Turn Basic, at $179?
https://store.uturnaudio.com/
I'm also in the market for an entry-level turntable, and I've read the low-end Teac turntables will destroy your records (or just aren't considered to be good at all). I've read that the Pro-Ject Essential II is also a good starter TT, but the price point is higher than any of the options that've been discussed thus far, and it has no USB out to boot unless you go even higher in price ($400).
The AT120 and the U-Turn Basic seem like good options. Very interested in continuing this line of discussion, so if there's any vinyl diehards reading, please chime in. Your feedback is greatly appreciated.
kazamaYeah, the U-Turn Basic. Pretty much any message board you ask will tell you that or the AT-LP120 or vintage. I've been in the same boat as you and had a UTurn, I liked it and they look good but I ended up with better components so it became my systems "weak link"
Pro-next Essential is better than both and everyone will recommend it over the previous 2 but like you mentioned..at a cost. Same for Rega and maybe a couple others like Music Hall.
My opinion: if you already know you want in vinyl and are going to stick with it, go Pro-ject or Rega. If you're just testing the waters... the U-turn or AT120. But again, if you have a really nice system, you may want a Pro-ject or Rega, if you dont have that already, a U-Turn or AT-LP120 may be best
BeerCanChickenThanks for the info! Sounds like the AT120 might be the way to go. It's slightly more expensive than the U-Turn, but it sounds like it is worth it if you end up acquiring better components in the future.
kazamaI'd personally say AT120, they can handle better cartridges down the road. I primarily picked the U-Turn for aesthetics, the AT isn't the prettiest...
kazamaI run a u turn basic to an outlaw receiver which powers a pair of older 4 driver Polk towers. For about a grand total this rig has a decent amount of musical flexibility and sounds really great whether I'm listening to Simon and Garfunkel or the new Foo Fighters EP. Plus it's aesthetic doesn't piss off my wife ;)
chris.ebenerAwesome setup, thanks for sharing! Still a little torn as to whether I want the U-Turn or the AT120, but I'm leaning toward AT for long-term flexibility... love all the feedback from the Massdrop community here.
ptseI do value clean records but if you get a good turntable and treat you records really good until you can afford a cleaner. Buy the turntable and records and use a microfiber cloth and some water for cleaning until you get the better cleaner. (NEVER USE LIGHTER FLUID OR ALCOHOL TO CLEAN)
ptseAs a general rule, I wouldn't recommend a turntable with only phono out as an entry level device. I don't think novices are as interested in experimenting with pairings or getting one of the few amps that support phono these days.
sf_robEntry level turntable need a entry level phono preamp, nothing more. ART DJPRE II Phono Preamp is only selling $49 in Amazon. U-turn is selling there own on there web store too.
BeerCanChickenIt's very bare bones but in a good way (headache free). The sound is very clean but offers some very simple tuning options that bring just enough flexibility and with enough power to play anything I throw at it well. It pairs really well with a hungry set of towers but has a dedicated sub output as well if something less intrusive is desired.
Massdrop should reach out to Outlaw, its a great product.
QQQwinnerIf you use water, use distilled. I prefer manual record cleaning systems like Discwasher (but haven't ever used an automatic one). They are inexpensive and so is re-buying the fluid. Whether you buy new and/or used records, or have some that haven't been cleaned ever, or in a while, they should be cleaned lightly each time before you play them. New records often have some mold release compound on them. Some surface residue is more difficult to remove, and mysterious microscopic dusty and sticky stuff is floating around in your room, unless you live in a bubble. You should get a stylus cleaner too (take extreme care using it).
ptseAs a company, U-Turn has been an absolute pleasure to interface with in the 2 years I've had my TT (for upgrades and initial purchase, no issues so far).