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penguinairlines
92
May 22, 2018
I'd jump for the cheaper, fullsize version.
With a trackpoint onboard, anything under 18" W is fine, as that can fit just fine on a rack shelf or almost any keyboard tray.
Seriously though, at $260 I was expecting to see Topre when I scrolled down. Many custom Cherry keyboards costing less than 1/2 of this, most with more switches on board. I'm open to hearing why this custom kit costs an extra $150.
smallbit
1328
May 24, 2018
penguinairlinesI think the nub is the justification for the price difference and it is also a non-standard layout. Not sure if the pcb is all one piece or the three bottom buttons are on a tethered pcb to the mainboard... The company is known for quality too.
But if I could nub my IBM clicky, it would have been done did. The nub is golden. So maybe I settle for this in a 65 or 75g resistance instead but I am trying to resist. Still have a purple switch minibus kit with some chocolatiers that I haven't put together. It is tempting though.
penguinairlines
92
May 25, 2018
smallbitIf I wanted to pay $260 for custom keyboard that takes up less desk space I would get the ergodox and a more functional trackball, but there's a customer for every product so these are only my opinions. I'm sure it's a high quality product, I just don't understand the need for it to be. I'm thinking a Chinese manufacturer could reproduce this product for a lot cheaper, and I'm surprised not to see exactly that given Massdrop's history over in the headphone section.
Anyways, my comment was intended to recommend changes to the manufacturer to open up their customer base, not to stick thorns in someone's side. I think this product could be a lot more viable with a few changes so I hope the developer will consider. The opportunity cost to have a nub and 3 mouse buttons for $150~200 more than an equivalent keyboard just doesn't make sense to me. In-fact, the places where I use TKL keyboards have been satisfied by $35 mechanical keyboards with Outemu/Kailh switches, but I'd consider this added functionality and quality cherry for as much as $120.
itchy
69
May 25, 2018
penguinairlinesThis IS a chinese manufacturer.
chewgl
24
May 27, 2018
penguinairlinesHaving the trackpoint right there (vs a trackball) does make a difference. Absolutely no moving your hands from home-row if you need to move your mouse. This is especially for Thinkpad fans (which I'm an example of; the only reason why I haven't moved to a Mac OS is because of Thinkpads and their trackpoint/keyboard). The Ergodox is it's own thing, as it's a split ortholinear and would require some adaptation from someone who might split time with using a laptop.
I echo smallbit's point that Tex makes a great keyboard: the aluminum low-pro case is amazingly built, and feels super stable. The plate is screwed to the case, rather than to the PCB, which adds to the really solid feel of the keyboard. This is compared to a few other enthusiast boards I have (e.g. the Anne Pro, a custom DZ60). Even the whitefox doesn't feel as premium.
There are Unicomp Enduropros full-size keyboards with trackpoint, but I don't think it's a programmable board, nor is the trackpoint really good. I can vouch for the Tex Yoda's trackpoint (latest iteration; the previous iteration broke on me) as being equivalent, of not better than a real Thinkpad's trackpoint.
josh_b
267
Aug 30, 2018
chewglGlad to hear that the Yoda's trackpoint is comparable to a Thinkpad's.
I have an EnduraPro. Decent keyboard but the trackpoint is useless. My understanding is that they worked fine for older, low-resolution monitors. But on modern monitors, you're asking for RSI if you need to navigate to anything smaller than a browser tab. Also, no middle mouse button on the EnduraPro, and the L/R buttons are about as responsive as a couple of bricks.
XTaran
361
Sep 1, 2018
itchyNo, it's a taiwanese manufacturer.
itchy
69
Sep 1, 2018
XTaranAh. That would explain the high pricing.
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