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Lunatique
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Dec 19, 2015
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I'm very tempted by the White Fox, but in order to justify it when I already have the Leopold FC660 (which I love), I'll need to make sure the programmable aspect is indeed able to do what I need.
I posted this question at the input.club forum, but it's very slow there, so I'll ask here too:
I use TouchCursor for programming navigation onto the home row so when I’m writing, I can quickly navigate without leaving the home row. I’m contemplating whether to get the White Fox, and I think it’s only worth it if I can program it to do the same with the configurator firmware. So I’d like to know how I would go about doing these macros with the online configurator (I looked at it and read the forum threads, but still cant’ figure it out).
The simple stuff is easy, such as programming I, K, J, L to become the arrow keys when an activation key is held down. But there doesn’t seem to be a way do combo keys macro, such as programming the M key to perform CTRL+LeftArrow, and the , key to perform CTRL+RightArrow. Basically any macro combos with two or more keys doesn’t seem possible, or it isn’t clear how to do it with the online configurator.
Also, if I want to designate a key to be the fn key, what am I supposed to do? And once I make it the fn key, does that mean its original function is now lost? So let's say I make the right-control key the fn key, does it then become just the fn key and can no longer perform the control function?
What if I want to use a key as the fn/activation key only when I hold it down (such as how it works in TouchCursor, where I can hold down the spacebar and it becomes the activation/fn key only when held down, but if I simply tap it, it behaves like a normal spacebar)?
Dec 19, 2015
flipjsio
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Dec 19, 2015
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LunatiqueI have the Infinity keyboard which uses the same firmware as the WhiteFox. The keyboard is very configurable and can do so much more than the TouchCursor can give. I know because I also use TouchCursor at work because I cant bring in my own personal keyboard due to security reason. The firmware can do SpaceFn (fn key when held down, or space when tap), or activate a layer and stays on similar to capslock, etc. The best thing is, the configuration is saved on your keyboard and not through software like touchcursor or sharpkeys. You can use it on any computer or any OS like linux, mac or windows, you have the same keybindings.
You can have a look at one of my keyboards configuration to get an idea:
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f4b17e88b90f39f2b84d
This is my 40% keyboard and have like 5 layers on it. You see this is a very compact keyboard and It can do everything I need. I am a programmer and I use Vim too.
The online configurator is very limiting though, so combo keys you mentioned might not be possible there. Just download the firmware and edit the configuration file yourself. I have planck, infinity, hhkb with mod controller, and my own custom-designed 40%, and I use this firmware (and also TMK firmware).
Dec 19, 2015
Lunatique
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Dec 21, 2015
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flipjsioThank you for the reply. If it can do everything TouchCursor can do, then I'm sold. I'm not a programmer so whenever I had to do any kind of scripting in the past it always took forever to learn through trial and error and asking question on the web. Is the configurator very easy to learn and with ample tutorial and resources on the web? The input.club forum doesn't seem to have information on how to create custom macros.
Dec 21, 2015
matt3o
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Dec 21, 2015
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Lunatiquethe configurator is very basic at the moment, but we have plenty of time to implement all the features that the firmware supports.
What is not supported by the configurator can be edited by hand, it's a simple text file, so it's not that you need to be a developer.
Tutorial will be published in the coming weeks, I'm already working on it.
Dec 21, 2015
flipjsio
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Dec 21, 2015
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LunatiqueI usually skipped the docs and look for configuration examples, and combine stuff that I like. It could take hours to figure out everything and sometimes you have to ask the community on things you dont understand. The good thing is, there is a big community on mechanical keyboards and lots of people have keyboards that use the same firmware. Once WhiteFox is out, you can just join the community to figure everything out, and I tell you its an enjoyable experience. Now I use a 40% and its my daily driver. This WhiteFox will be my backup, and probably sell some of my keyboards. Have fun! :)
Dec 21, 2015
wsjones1981
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Dec 21, 2015
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flipjsioFlipjsio, I've been on the lookout for a 40% mechanical keyboard & haven't come across one yet. I'm new to 40% keyboards & the usuals like mechanicalkeyboards.com, newegg, etc don't have them. I even did a google search to no avail. Can you or anyone else refer me to sites that carry 40% boards?
Dec 21, 2015
flipjsio
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Dec 21, 2015
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wsjones1981EDIT: Sorry we are offtopic here.
OLKB offers 2 kinds of 40%, the planck which is popular, and the quark (handwired only). I own a planck, but I can't get used to it, due to me using a staggered keyboard at work. So I designed my own and ordered a custom plate from OLKB and handwire it myself.
There are only few 40% keyboards. Mostly its DIY. Other notables are JD40, Atreus, Mobik, and of course the planck. There is also JD45 in the works, which is 45%, but it still small. They're not easily available though, except for the planck. Here's the OLKB site:
http://ortholinearkeyboards.com/
Or try designing one yourself here:
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f4b17e88b90f39f2b84d
and order a custom plate for it. It was my first time to handwire a keyboard, and everything went fine. No desoldering and resoldering whatsoever, all the switches work the first time. Not sure if I posted it here, but here's my 40% anyway.
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If you want to know more about the planck, or maybe discuss more about 40%, head on to MD planck group buy discussion here: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/planck-mechanical-keyboard/talk
Dec 21, 2015
wsjones1981
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Dec 22, 2015
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flipjsioMy apologies to everyone for being off topic & thanks for your assistance, Flipjsio.
Dec 22, 2015
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