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Topping D20 DAC

Topping D20 DAC

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Awaiting confirmation! We are still in contact with the vendor and just awaiting updated shipment estimates from them. We have a call scheduled first thing tomorrow morning and should get a bit more visibility in regards to when we can expect these in our warehouse.

Expect another update from us on 11/9 or sooner if something comes up.

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Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the Topping D20 DAC and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.

As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them. The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 11/17.

We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 11/2.

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FYI, I use a DAC to receive an optical input from an AIRPORT express (Apple) so I can wirelessly WIFI stream from my phone to the AIRPORT device in wireless digital signal, then to TOPPING DAC, which creates a nice clean analog signal, which is then amplified by a seperate amp, then the amplified signal goes to the speakers.
Pardon my ignorance here but can you by pass the amp to go directly to a tube amp?
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blepage
As macmike put it, there is no amp in this, so yes the outputs on this could go directly into a tube amp. This was made to do exactly that.
blepage
Thanks guys. I meant to post it on another drop which was and headphone/dac. Sorry for the mix up.
I'm interested in this but would prefer the D30. :)
macmike
Yes, the D30 is only a few bucks more but have a much better DAC chipset. Will be great to have a drop.
heraldo_jones
Yes. I want to be able to take advantage of DSD files.
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Just about there! We've been in touch with the vendor regarding the group's order and they've let us know that they are still working to gather and pack the group's order for shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey. We will continue to check in with them throughout the fulfillment process and update the group again as soon as everything is en route to us!

Expect another update from us on 10/4 or sooner if something comes up.

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Awaiting confirmation! We are still in contact with the vendor and just awaiting updated shipment estimates from them. We have a call scheduled first thing tomorrow morning and should get a bit more visibility in regards to when we can expect these in our warehouse.

Expect another update from us on 9/27 or sooner if something comes up.

If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (https://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the Topping D20 DAC and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.

As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them. The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 10/4.

We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 9/20.

If you have any questions, please visit our Help Center (http://massdrop.com/helpcenter).
how does this thing compare to the Schiit Modi 2 non-uber?
TheOmegaCarrot
From a technical point of view:

Modi 2 only has USB input, no optical or coax inputs.
Modi 2 takes it's power from the USB connection, not an external power pack (external power is probably the superior option).
Modi 2 has much better capabilities over USB (up to 24-bit/192kHz and supports asynchronous data transfer).
Modi 2 probably has better warranty/support (at least for buyers in the US anyway).
Sure you can avoid the USB limitation by simply not using the USB input, but then you're left with only an optical/coax DAC that can handle 24bit/96kHz. So the technical capabilities are nothing to get excited about for the price.

The question then becomes - does the D20 offer something special in terms of audio quality to make it a good deal for the price? I'm not entirely convinced that it does just on the basis of one review.

And it would annoy me to own a DAC with a USB input that was so limited compared with what the DAC itself is capable of. If a DAC has a USB input, I want to be able to use it without having to worry about it's particular limitations.

BTW, I'm fairly skeptical of a lot of the audiophile nonsense that goes around, and I'm not convinced there's any benefit to higher than 16-bit/44kHz when it comes to playback. But given issues like digital volume control, use of software EQ and real-time mixing of multiple sources that tend to occur with computer based playback, I'd prefer not to have everything re-sampled back down to 16-bit just because of a USB input limitation.
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Steve, that's a wise approach. If you'd like to ping me directly, you can at joementor@comcast.net. If you email me now, I'll delete this post for privacy reasons. Joe.
Great read, thanks for the time and effort you put into this.
IMO, this could be a fantastic deal if you approach it correctly. Avoid using USB, if you can. COMPUTERS ARE NOISE FACTORIES and USB power is a noise gateway for music. If you take advantage of the Topping D20 DAC's optical input, you avoid both problems. An optical cable will not pick up electrical interference (it can't because it transmit light pulses rather than electrical signals).

Here are two options:
1. For Mac: The headphone style audio output is actually two outputs in one, either an analog headphone output or an optical digital output (S/PDIF: Sony/Philips Digital Interface Format). To take advantage of this, get a Toslink mini to Toslink cable. I recommend the AudioQuest Forest OptiLink, but if that's too rich you can pick one up at MonoPrice or Amazon for less than $10. Avoid the adaptor at Monoprice ($0.89 / sku #2671) due to high failure rate. This WILL get you 24/96, plus big benefits in terms the elimination of noise in the audio signal or picked up by the cable.

2. No optical output? Check out the USB Disruptor. They have different versions depending on the type of USB output your computer has. This won't get you 24/96 from the D20, but why spend money on an expensive DAC if you haven't tackled the noise issue outlined above. It matters a heck of a lot more than the higher 24/96 resolution because you can't hear resolution masked by noise. If you can't go optical, you'll have to decide if the D20 DAC is for you. Do you have 24-bit music? Unless you buy your music from a company like HDtracks you probably don't. Once again, remember you won't hear resolution if you don't cure the noise problem. At www.USBDisruptor.com you can learn a lot more on why.

For $69.99, me thinks the Toppings D20 DAC is an outstanding deal (especially if hooked up right).

Joe (aka Audiomaven)
joementor
ah great advice ty. I didn't know they made toslink cables with a 3.5mm headphone jack end on them.
endasc2
Thank you endasc2.