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Topping DX7s Balanced DAC/Amp

Topping DX7s Balanced DAC/Amp

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Great DAC, nothing to complain about. The remote must be purchased separately which is a bummer but it's very sturdy.
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i just got this today. An hour after plugging it in, it already stopped working. no sound whatsoever coming out of the quarter inch jack when connected via usb. I haven't tried the other inputs since i don't have an optical cable worked ok for the time i had it working though.
DiscoMuffin
Out of curiosity, what fw version is yours running? There were reported issues with USB connection failing that have supposedly been resolved in the latest fw. http://en.tpdz.net/wdzn_detail/newsId=82.html
chucktdriscoll
the usb connection isn't failing. it's still detected by my pc and its showing the bitrate on the display so the usb might not be the problem. I don't know what firmware version its running though
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Pleasantly surprised! Obviously I did my research, but without listening to it, or have a trustworthy friends recommendation; I took a chance. Unit sounds wonderful, and could only get better after initial break in period. I’m also happy a read so many reviews and it didn’t surprise me when the unit didn’t work out of the box! Power selector was set to 220V by the manufacturer “Default” …smart btw! It’s a great DAC far superior to my Work PC sound card, and all the input types I require for testing and utilizing my auxiliary devices. Not to neglect build and quality is beyond reproach.      Excellent Pairing with Sennheiser HD650 or HD6XX, also tried a various other pairs I use for work and all sounded great, but this combo will be my go to work system.
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Absolutely wonderful DAC/AMP combo. I use an LCX as an amp for this and the sound is absolutely stellar. The built-in amp gets the job done but it is definitely the weak link. The DAC section here is incredible and worth the asking price alone.
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I just got my DX7s yesterday so it's nowhere near close to being broken in but I wanted to give my initial impressions. My system consists of: 1. CD - MCIntosh MCD205 2. DVD/BluRay/SACD/DVD-A - Oppo BDP-105D 3. Comcast Set Top Box 4. WD 4TB NAS 5. Intel Skull Canyon NUC 6. Sonore microRendu powered by HDPlex 300W LPS 7. Wyred4Sound Recovery USB Reclocker (RUR) powered by HDPlex 300W LPS 8. HQPlayer controlled by Roon 9. Sennheiser HD650 1/4" plug - wanting to try balanced cable All cables are Kimber Cable or PS Audio 10.McIntosh C2200 preamplifier 11. McIntosh MC402 amplifier 12. Martin Logan Aeoni speakers 13. Music sources 44.1kHz FLAC, 48kHz, FLAC, 96kHzFLAC, 192kHz FLAC, DXD, MQA, and DSD up to 256mHz I compared this against my iFI iDSD Black Label in my system and the first thing I noticed was the clarity and ability to better locate instruments within the soundstage. The sound is currently a little lean as compared to the BL, but I think with more breaking in that will improve. I also sensed better timing and rhythm to the music as it just seems to flow from my speakers. The BL seems a little reserved in comparison. The BL is a great DAC for the price, but I always felt that it was a little slow and thick, which seemed to throw off leading and trailing edges of notes. I notice much more of a sense of attack and decay with the DX7s with a wide soundstage. The soundstage depth and height are somewhat lacking now but that could be a result of not being fully broken in yet. I have been listening to DSD512 and PCM up to 768kHz and have been really impressed with both formats, though i prefer DSD, which seems more nuanced with better timbral accuracy in my system. That's about it for now. I have my CD player on repeat downstairs to break the DX7s in. I will report back in when it has a chance to settle in to see if my initial impressions have changed. Hi all, I have been living with the DX7s for about a month now and i wanted ro report back on my findings. The sound of the DX7s has definitely bloomed to more fully flesh out vocalists as well as to present instruments in a more cohesive manner. The pace of performances has also tightened up and music is more of a fabric now. I don't feel like anything is highlighted. It just sounds like music. The soundstage has opened up and decay in large spaces seems to go on forever. There is no sense of exaggeration, just the natural decay of instruments or voices, where that is in the recording. Last night I tried HQPlayer with the DX7s and it is awesome! I am really impressed with this DAC. As another note to my comments, I tried the preamp feature of this DAC and was very impressed. It is not as transparent and resolving as running it as a standalone DAC into my McIntosh C2200, but it is really good.
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anroj
Any issues plugging the rca line out directly to an av amp? I am thinking of using the rca out to feed my B&K avr 507 and possible try the balanced outputs in my Krell kav 300i. Dont want to fry anything?
Hi Toshu, I need to update my review score. When I added the follow-up comments, I meant to update the rating.
Verified Purchaser
This is my first Massdrop review. I would keep it precise and short. I received my Topping DX7S (silver) last week and have been using it many hours every day. Here are a few things I would like to share: The built is solid and pleasant to the eyes (a “silver crown” added on top of my Harman Kardon system--see photos) as most members agree here so I won’t go on that. But here is what impresses me about this beautiful magic box. Compared to my previous 2 office setups: ( Set up 1: CD -> Harman Kardon or Onkyo CD player -> Harman Kardon AV ->HIfiman HE-400i / Hifiman HE-560 / Monoprice 1060-Mod) or (Set up 2: Music Wav files-1411 kbps -> Pioneer SC Elite -> HIfiman HE-400i / Hifiman HE-560 / Monoprice 1060-Mod); This is my new setup for this Topping DX7S: Harman Kardon CD Player ->Topping Coax in Computer with Music Wav files-1411 kbps and DSD -> Topping USB in Samsung 4K multi-media player (with Wav files-1411 kbps and/or music streaming) -> Topping optical in All three connections from Topping sounds great. I also connect each of my headphones with its own balanced cable ($100 or more for each cable..ouch). Here are my comments based on my own listening ability and sessions. Please remember that I am not trying to claim this as general outcome. Only to my own ears! 1: Balanced output is an obvious improvement in clarity and sound stage, even compared to Topping DX7S’s own ¼ unbalanced output. Especially the highs are crystal clear and I can hear lots of details I never heard before. So the “balance” feature itself and the additional cost to upgrade balanced cables for my headphones are totally worth the investment. 2: The balanced output from Topping DX7S makes all my 3 planar headphones and my dynamic headphones (such as Schennheiser 650) sound more open, clearer, and more musically pleasant. YES, Toppings DX7S has enough juice to push all of these headphones, especially the hard-to-drive Hifiman HE560 & Schennheiser 650. My Hifiman HE560 used to require so much power from my Harman-Kardon and Pioneer Elite SC, it shorted the fuses in Harman Kardon often. Now this Topping DX7S can easily drive Hifiman HE560 at -43db, Hifiman HE-400i at -49db and Monoprice 1060 at -52db. Obviously Topping DX7S has more than enough fresh juice to power. 3: I also tested the XLR outputs on the back and balanced-connected my JBL monitors and Rokit monitors to Topping DX7S. Both sets of monitors sound great with clean high, mid, and low as well.
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Overall, I rate this Topping a 9.5 out of 10 because I have to purchase its remote separately. I highly recommend Topping DX7S. Don’t miss its next drop here. It’s an excellent unit that will improve your music appreciation in many areas.
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Horseknight
Not warranty not purchase. They can keep them all.
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Using Audeze LCD-2 and Sennheiser HD598 with balanced cables (Senn is modded). Sounds crispy, revealing, and with great PRAT. Using a DSD and it sounds wonderful. Still comparing it to my tube-based xDuoo TA-10, but so far, I think this might edge it out.
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Great balanced DAC/Amp combo. You better have really good source material to play along with. Regular PCM 16bit/44khz input won't be suddenly awesome with this. Although the lack of distortion will be evident if your previous player/pc is bad.
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People at audiosciencereview had some good results with a decent USB cable. But, I am not sure if it really matters with the new firmware update that's supposed to fix USB relay noise issues.
ylkamalesh1
Thank you for your reply. I really appreciate it. I will check out that review :-)
Verified Purchaser
I don't know what to say that others haven't said already.
Pros: Great DAC/amp for the price, with DSD support. Balanced headphone out and balanced DAC. Sounds great to me with a paid of HD650s.
Cons: I wish the gain was a little higher. I find that I run at around -35 to -30 db, with classical music generally requiring the higher volume. No included remote, but that's not a deal breaker to me.
Overall, I think it's worth the money. Topping has less smoke and mirrors (and poor customer service) going on than Schiit does - and I was considering the Jotunheim until I saw the DX7S.
Note: My unit shipped set to 230VAC mode. I didn't realize this, and thought I had a dud unit until I finally remembered to look for the switch.
rampantandroid
Hi! I was told to use a different USB cable. But before I actually purchase a USB cable, I wonder if you think I should and any recommendations?
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This is currently the best (in price-performance) full balanced headphone amp. For DAC, it's decent but there are other options. Works best with Focal Clear.
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Thank you.
Why do you say its only worthy of use with headphones? I was going to play with it first with headphones...but then plug it into my main system amps....a B&K avr 507 and a Krell kav 300i which has balanced inputs
Verified Purchaser
Anything I could say about this DAC/Amp, from a technical/sound quality perspective, is better covered over at Audio Science Review: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-dx7s-dac-and-headphone-amp.2378/ (Be sure to check related threads for other Topping products like the D10, D30, and D50, since there's a lot of crossover discussion.)
tl;dr: this (as well as the predecessor, the DX7) is one of the forum's gold-standard DACs, especially at this price point. It uses a pair of the current (as of mid-2018) flagship ESS dual-channel DAC chipset (ES9038Q2M) in what seems to be a well-implemented device, and the amp has plenty of power for most headphones (and can easily pair with an external amp if you need more).
Ergonomically, the unit is built exceptionally well: it's much smaller than I expected given what it's capable of, doesn't get nearly as hot as my Schiit Jotunheim, it doesn't have that "cheap hobby electronics project box" look that seems to be in fashion with some companies, and the information screen is far more useful than I originally thought it would be (ensuring that the software I'm using is, in fact, outputting what I think it is, other general debugging of the rest of the system).
"Something something INCREDIBLY FLUID SOUND ahem cough EXPANSIVE SOUNDSTAGE mumble mumble AUDIOPHILE SHINY WHATSITS" Ugh, I hate audio reviews so much. It sounds good and I like it. I've paired a few different headphones with it at this point (HD-6xx, E-MU Teaks, Focal Clear, bunch of random others), and it has done it's job exactly as I'd hoped.
Random tidbits for people who buy this:
Since Google seems to hate Topping's website, and I can never remember it off the top of my head: it's http://en.tpdz.net/ . There is a firmware update there for this device (and most of their other DACs); you should probably make sure you're up-to-date when you get it (USB problems have been reported with older firmware).
Something I wish someone had told me when I first started using this is that of the three output modes (Headphones-only, DAC-only, and HP+DAC), DAC-only does not have volume control. If you want to be able to control the volume via the knob on the front of the unit, the headphone output needs to be active. Not a big deal, but was annoying until I figured out what was going on. :)
You should also know that there is an optional remote for the DX7s that wasn't released when the unit originally shipped; it's a well-made, hefty little thing, and can be a useful addition depending on where you've mounted the unit. I picked mine up from Aliexpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Remote-control-for-TOPPING-DX7s-DAC-Headphone-amplifier/32891839661.html
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logic
how does this unit compare to the jotunheim
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As luck would have it, I own both a DX7s, and a Jot with the multibit DAC. Functionally, the Jot is a very simple device from the user's perspective; the two DACs (or phono input) are simple add-on boards with fixed filter configurations, there's only simple input/gain/volume control, an on/off switch, and no visualization at all. It's a fairly beefy headphone amp that happens to have a DAC in it. Gets kinda hot when it's on, but basically plug-and-go. The DX7s has quite a bit more going on; there's an interactive display so you can see what's coming into the device at any given moment, you have control over the ESS filters, output switching is saner (to me), it has a real standby mode, etc. It's a well-featured DAC that happens to have a middle of the road headphone amp attached to it. More to tweak. :) For me, the DX7s quickly became my daily driver, and the Jot lives in another room for occasional use (with higher-impedence cans). I'm planning on mating the THX AAA headphone amp to the DX7s once mine ships, and I suspect my desk setup will be "finished" at that point. It might be worth reading reviews (and discussion) of both, to get a sense of what's important to you (click through the threads, you'll find more charts; in particular, the DX7s is a very old review, so you end up having to go much further in the thread to find things like SINAD): Jotunheim: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-schiit-jotunheim-and-ifi-idsd-black-label-dacs-and-headphone-amps.3717/ DX7s: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-dx7s-dac-and-headphone-amp.2378/ There's also a bunch of threads on head-fi.org and superbestaudiofriends.org about both of them, I'd suggest spending some time with those as well.
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