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Good Day... Just acquired this NX4DSD. so far is solid item. Easy connectivity (plug and play) from Note 8, PC win10, iOS (with additional data lighting cable). Compare to fiio e12a, this NX4 is brighter, low freq is less detail, mid a bit recessed , & high is more spicy. In short, make E12A feels warm compare to NX4...
Question, how to connect this NX4DSD to fiio X5 3rd Gen... ? I already quick google, but no good solutions....
edit : the issued is solved in on discussion below for fiio x5iii bug for streaming apps cant digital out put through USB... only to analog jack output....
additional info, NX4DSD shine when driving high impedance Headphone (DT990Pro 250ohm), but not for high sensitivity low impedance IEM, either play low volume to get the detail or use ifi ebuddy to crank it up
I'm sorry, but right now I'm a bit curious as to what happens if i operate this as an output dac from my pc, say outputting 16bit 44.1khz. Does this device convert my pcm 16bit 44.1khz stream to DSD, or does the dac then operate at this 16bit 44.1khz rate and convert that to analog? If so does anyone have any measurements on how this product performs at various sample formats? I'm sure the specs are quoted for an ideal DSD implementation, right? Thank ya.
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Nope, going to have to google and see what you find or ask that one guy at that review site, he seems like he responds to people questions.
The nx4 goes all the way up to 768 khz and 512 dsd. At least it can do it. Other portable or even desktop dacs don't even go past 192 khz or 384 khz and 256 dsd. Making the nx4 a better for future proof.
I don't think the higher sample rates could be converted all that bad. But then again I don't even test dsd or anything higher than 192 or 96 khz.
I have not played with dsd but heard there are ways to upsample into dsd. I have tried upsampling using windows playback devices and that makes the music sound weird and it's actually better to leave it on 44.1 or 48 khz. Foobar with asio and set output to asio (device your using) you will get bit perfect with no conversion and it sound best this way because upsampling makes it sound weird and I don't care/like it.
Z0d1Ac
"Nope, going to have to google and see what you find or ask that one guy at that review site, he seems like he responds to people questions."
i already did "google", i dnot know why you would assume what i should have to do son., I'm asking here now, thats the recommended procedure.. I dont know why your drawing assertions of what i'll have to do, i just posted this recently, there could be more replies yet to come in.., It's fine to ask if anyone else has seen and findings and start a conversatino about known findings., thats how google result can get made, and links. =)
"I don't think the higher sample rates could be converted all that bad. But then again I don't even test dsd or anything higher than 192 or 96 khz. "
ohhkay, i was looking for someone who might definitively know.., not offer a suspicion and conjecture presented as fact.., I could have been misled by such incorrect presentations Zod1ac..
"I have not played with dsd but heard there are ways to up-sample into dsd. "
Im not just looking for up-sampling, but also "crossampling" and even "downsampling" or just dsd handling of pcm stream decimation having the device in a DSD mode, maybe at a floating DSD depending on if i'm outputting 16bit @44.1 or 24bit@96 or DSD. Like does the device have input sensing and actively adjust based on input format, or is it all passive, and if it's all passive can i set to to a DSD mode, to handle all samples into a DSD stream? Like what happens if i output to the device 16bit@44.1, then 24bit@96, then a few minutes later output DSD, then a few minutes later 88.2khz, is it always operating passively directly what i feed it or can it adjust samples into a format. Is anyone sure it's unable to do that, and that the only way to have it operate DSD is to send it only DSD but that it cant handle PCM streams into DSD? Or does anyone have more information on the operating modes, passive or active. I'm asking here on the community product page in the event someone might have intimate experience or in-depth knowledge about the device.., Afterall this is a place to chat about it. ;-)
"Foobar with asio and set output to asio (device your using) you will get bit perfect with no conversion and it sound best this way because up-sampling makes it sound weird and I don't care/like it."
lol. in your opinion maybe foobar is the "right way", but i suggest that not necessarily the case, or an implementation which would work as intended for many use cases. gooslette your making so many assumptions.., please reconsider your methods for science, =). Cheers.
What sort of We'll, im having trouble deciding, what im doing, this shopping is so complicated. This NX4 (not the DSD NX4s?, awwee) is MORE EXPENSIVE right now, than creative new creative AE-5 or G6 which claims to have "130db" dynamic range(greater than this) and is a full portable dsp soundcard, but Creative they don't say much about it, whether that's for the AMP, DAC, amp/dac, but thats a Full DSP, which would offer hardware acceleration, whichmakes that a hugely, larger bang for the buck, pending ahrdware accelrestion interfaces were supported even, when microsoft removed supports like, back in viasta, and just reintroduced ahrdware aelerated audio with windows 10, but there is steam audio, but i sk creative, do your crds work with steam audio, and theyre silent, they won't response, it's the same sort of processing., but a dsp is waay more than a dac-amp just looking at the electronics involved. Neither of these products seem to have many rmaa measurements, certainly not enough to give me an idea of a performance comparison. Lik ei cant even find who's got the lowest snr or crosstalk, from intdependant soruce, all the recent ocmmrecial reviews talk about how great they feel it sounds at the moment.,, I've seen amir's Nx4s, but the thing is, his recview of the NX4s shows a SINAD of 104 at some voltage, and i have no idea how that compares with the Creative G6 since it's so new and there are no independent measures that i found for it's SINAD, never-mind it's signal to noise ratio. And you know what, im not saying i dont trust the audioscience forum, but all the measurements are at different voltages, so it's hard to get a baseline understanding of how items stack up against one another, unlike other common review situations which literally use the same figures to meaure dacs. Lik e it's ahrd to see on that forum, how a magni3 compares to an nx4s, sinc the test voltage for the baseline figures are inconsistent., Not saying this is anyone fault or choice? I cant figure out, within this short time before the sale end which dac-amp, or amps, or dsp's come out favorable above one another, he's showing under 100 SINAD for the magni, yet the magni cliams to have a SNR of 108... So i dunno. His bjective 2 sinad measurement is higher than the magni 3, but at a different voltage., i bet if the test settings wer the same, that the magni would come out on top., but heck, i dont know., I'm just stuck in a situation right now, where i have to shop, because my x-fi titnaium has around a 32ohm output impedance, and creative never told me this was going to be a compromising issue for my audio quality with headphones when i bought the thing, not even sure if they knew about the lack of damping back then or not, and if they did, i say; they decieved us, by the thousands if not hundreds of thousands, with pictures of headphone setups which in reality would lead typical people to think any old headphone; "should work well", you know? Which is not the case. So now I' got this isssue. i just wanted to be happy,. Then I don't want to buy an amp which would compromise my x-fi output,m or even a future dac's output very much, so im stuck having to buy some low power high performance amps. Not only this, but even i ix-nay the whole creative factor, and my difficultly getting good comparisons, (back in the x-fi days, numerous reviewers actually ran rmaa on cards and dacs), but forgetting about that, guys, this thing has a "non-user-replaceable" battery. I dont know if you read around the topping or fiio sites, but if you treat batteries unwell, they could die with you only using the device a few times; then theyre good as trash, if your not careful, since you cant simply swap-in a new battery, As a good man, or a man who aims to be responsible, to a degree, i simply cant in good conscious bring myself, personally, to buy a device a device with a non-user replaceable battery. Think of the enviroment, funding e-trash especially to such a severe degree, is nt just the disposal costs, but the manufcature costs, and the work into production, it's against my.. morals, ethics, something for sure., religon? I dont know, but to buy a device like this, with a non-user replaceable battery, and to fund such a device, and pay people fo it, is partly immoral, and anti-pro-consumerism at least as far as im concerned. Consumerism is our most powerful weapon and tool i'd say in shaping the world. Theres no excuse why there shouldnt be a jst plug there to acept a new battery, and some batteries we could buy from third parties, or the first party, as far as im concerend common or proprietary, ti doesnt matter, so long as it's not a rip off, and is prices like a battery..,. The old fiio's i think some models had replaceable batteries, i asked on amazon, and im pretty sure he nx4 and nx4s are unmarked batteries, soldered leads, i couldnt be responsible when buying such a device, at least in the enviromental sense, like, enviromental responsibility, you know? Like geeze. I dont want to spent 100 bones USD on a magni, when i coudl buy a dac-amp like this, which allegedly has a much better sinad? i guess? it's hard to tell.. like, if this was 100 dolalrs and just the amp, with a repalceable common battery, i'd buy it, you hear me? i'd buy it! nevermind i could get a new creative AE-5 for a few dollars more than the price of the magni, basically with the creative fall sale., and that a HUGE difference in electronics, a full dsp to that caliber./ BUT i would probably buy the ae-5 BUTTTT lol the bastards at creative won't support xp, so that mean, for hardware acceleration, i think, unless alchemy runs on these cards, i think it runs on the cpu (creative won't answer my on this, i aske them mutliple times, "with the ae5 does alchemy EAX processing now happen on the card, or my computer cpu" they say call us amnd we can chat,. but anyhow if that processing is not done on the card then it's practically useless as a dsp forget that. but as a dac amp, it's nto gonna die without a battery, like that nx4s or a fiio could... So anyways all my xp gaming would get cut off, since they refuse to publish an xp driver, i say sir, because thyre being coercive, i cant in good conscious give them money for that, to screw my xp ssytem, and screw my fellow man. I cant do that. All they had to do was flip a switch,. basically] to release an xp driver, really, all the work for it was done long ago..,. They clearly ar making marked efforts to control what we can do with our stuff,.., Nevrmind that company also refuses to publish a linux driver(but finally full community support has been made for AE5 by volunteers).. Always something. allnight i thought this as the nx4s.. Also, TOPPING hides thier output impedances, i been to thier amazon store, i been to the shenzenaudio store, i been to the actual homepage, theyre always witholding those pertininent figures, someones measured this products output-impedane at 1ohm (audioscience forum), so it's okay, to be used as an amp for general headphones, even like 16ohm iem's i'd say, BUUUTT i found thier nice nx3s amp product, which is nicely priced and your not buying a dac-amp reliant on a battery, but are buying into a separates scheme whr only one item then lives and dies on a battery (like buying a car with no replaceable battery, what kinda person could do that, think of the environment, if we all did that, i know the magnitude is diferent, but still, the principal i say is very well the same, think of the enviroment, these companies should probably be punished for it.. it would be very easy, to sell a battery, or mark it, thyre just being coercive, im certain, and probably to rip us off to get new sales in a few years, samsung and apple do similar things with !some products) and it's also unlisted, AND NO ONE that i found has provided independant meaurements of this nx3s device performance to substantiate or unsubstantiate toppings performance claims, all i have fed is these impressive figures, but finally i got a response from an ebay seller and the output impedance of the nx3s is a bit high, for m as a system implementer, with many computers and headphones, Now.. it could work appliction specific.. with little compromise, and it's about half the price as the nx4.,, but then were just cutting out sytem implementations,. if it had that 1 ohm, like the nx4s and the new creative products, i say it would be recommendable., and this sale ends in a few hours.,. and i still need to get breakfast. Wish Topping sold an amp version of the nx4/nx4s. thought the nx3s might be it, but no. Also looking at some balanced armatures, like this 16ohm massdrop EDC3, don't get me starte o the 2pin interface, please.., nightmare after nigthmare.. im trying to have a good time here, 1ohm 5 ohm, dac, amp dsp, no windows xp, discardable battery, performance specs all over the place and inconsistent a person can get seasick, lol. it's the twilight zone of shopping. im telling you. Probably end up with the new creative card for 110, and an NX3s to use with only csome headphone with my titnaium, for when i xp-game. xp gaming is a thing, i say, it's a very important thing, and these awful companies trying to kill it, and don't get my started on valve-proton-yet-fully turning-thier-back-on-having-paid-xp-customers, customers, who sometimes have hundreds of games, steam' just deciding to not support, of alleged reasons which i say are unncessary. Valve, for steam, is bsically turning off the computer, computer which worked fine for people on a daily basis, every day, where people have sometimes hundreds of softwares pruchased through steam, and spend thousands of hours enjoyment, steam is just shutting down all those installations and systems, and those customers, can do anything about it, but "change your system" well i say, if it was working before, they should be able to count on it continuing to work fine. it's all a lie. it would be like buying a hat, which disintegrates whenever the seller wants, then you have to buy a new hat, becaue it's winter and it's cost, for no other reason then they like to put you into a pisiton where you have to buy a new hat., thats it, is not sensible. the concerted effort to entrap consumers is ridiculous, it's like puting in an expensive device into a simple hat, just the delete the aht and make he buyer buy a new hat or something at some inflated price..,!!! i know its off topic. but all these issues are related, and it's a shopping nightmare complicated trying a responsible choice., and creative just has to be a stikc in the mudd too. if these computers work, leave them people be, don't disservice and marginalize them, they been happy for 10+ yers, let them people live.., topping doesnt list output impedance.., you know who said manufactures should, benchmark did, not me, benchmark and nuwavguy this is entirely a topping thing and topping's choice, to complicate shopping.,. then i think i should get an o2, then i think it would be like ripping myself off, big time inlight of an ae-5 even just in SINAD.. or a G6, and on youtube, the guy says the g6 usb is "better" than the AE5, but i just don't believe it. i also sen him lying through his teeth im pretty sure.., wont even talk about modern hardware accelerated audio, like steamd audio, or anyone reason anyone should actually want a soundcard, over say a dac-amp., but anyways, g6is the same price as this, actually a bit less, is a dsp + dac-amp portable made by creative, which claims to have higher perfomance specs, i think? to some degree? who knows. i dont , when trying to figure out what i want.. i'll be back ina bit to see to any conversation.., here one thing i like is that i could amp, or actually, i think theoretically, i could DSD even my hardware accelerated audio., by digitally lining my soundcards dsp output, of ingame effects processing, say from Steam Audio,( if they utilize my present dsp hardware..,) back to my computer, then asio or directly line that digital input, to my dsd usb output.. running that pcm sampled game audio to dsd at my computer, which i understand should be a minut processing,. and listen to my cd 16bit non dsp audio directly to that virtual channel as well, but like i says, havgng trouble getting past tht non-user serviceable battery.., all they had to do is crimp some leads, usbe a tab or jst plug interface, and mark the battery, selling one, or using a common battery.,, then i'd buy it, it would change the chole characteristic of the device for system implementation and purchasing for the better, and wuld probably amke !some money with then sale of extra batteries, good grief, but i think it clear they want to make a "disposable device"/"expiry device"evn at cost to themselves and compaltly irrespective of the consumers responsibility in a bid for later resales. and a a responsible man, and pro-consumer, i feel like i just cant support hem in that,. otherwise i'd love to give them some money for it., but i wont support an e-trash industry., what a shame. i know evyrthing's gonna need replacment eventually, but throwing a non-replaceable battery into the design is a surely critical issue, especially with amazon reports. I think batteries must be swappable in a device like this for my dollar. sorry. look at the o2,. theres a billlion+ lol, common cellphone batteries they coulda used or they could have just marked th batery inside and sold them a replacemeent, and simply crimped the leads for a common connection or done a jst plug(common practice) on the pcb instead of soldering the leads there... instead they want the device to die more? and they want me to pay them for that in exchange for some nice performance measures? grief.., :P
Caiz
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Caiz
tldr?
Can Massdrop clarify the iOS lightning connector issue? I see from the comments on Amazon that that version includes a lightning to micro-USB cable and I thought the Massdrop version would be the same. Does it include it or not? And if not, what cable is recommended? Thanks.
I cancelled my drop because of the ship date. Maybe other people did not notice the Nov.21th ship date.
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Almost always it ships early unless there is an error, in which they let you know that it will be later. Most of my drops ship weeks early
weasel210
Yes it is quite late huh? maybe it;'s being made to order, like as an assembly batch. Do you think? =)
So no lighting connector, am I reading that correct? The amazon version seems to have but higher price.
spinguy
I just recently bought one on Amazon and it doesn't have a lightning cable either fyi
So far I'm liking the Topping NX4 DSD got them in Amazon due to the drop ended when I purchased them on Amazon, overall it powers everything I throw at them from AKG K7XX, Philips SHP-9500, V-Moda M100's, OneOdio Studio Pro, 1More Triple/Multiple Driver Over the Ear and some IEM's. For me NX4 DSD being my first Dac/Amp is superb, I'm enjoying in listening to all genres of music, and media content (Youtube/Movies) all over again
Has anyone compared the OPPO Ha-2/Ha-2SE to this device?
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I was making the comparison short. I never said the ifi had recessed vocals. In fact in my review for it I said the vocals are slightly forward and highs are slightly bright, but it's the closest to neutral for me.
I have not tested higher output impedance amps. But if you have easy to run iems/headphones you may want to look into ifi audio's ieMatch. It will help in terms of lowering the volume which means you can get less channel imbalance, hiss, and it even improves dynamic range. May be what your looking for and is ideal for some of these portable amps I have tested which have too much power at the start of the volume nob.
SNR and SINAD are two different things. SINAD is signal over the power of distortion+noise. SNR by definition is signal over noise alone. In that regard, SINAD ratings are more useful than SNR.
Also, SINAD is the same as THD+N. It is just stated in db versus %. The db number and hence SINAD are useful when evaluating fidelity because we can for example compare them to distortion free range we need for CD (16 bit data). Hard to do that with a percentage.
As to sampling rate, it is always at the bottom of the dashboard measurements in green. And there, unless there is a reason, the sample rate is 44.1 kHz. Other tests like Jitter use 48 kHz.
I plan to do a video tutorial on all my measurements at some point.
I am new to this so forgive me for this question. How is this better than the schiit fulla?
What should I be looking for in. Dac/amp combo?
antseverywhere
Well I think this is definitely more for those who need a portable setup, as you can charge it and take it on the go.
bryan.bell
But still, i think he means how does it compare as a dac/amp to another. I mean maybe the op doesn't want to buy numerous DAC-AMPS if the portable is preferable. You asking in regards to the "audio-quality", right ants? =) I mean if the performance here is superior, it might not matter if ones portable or not, if the power suplly supersedes the need without compromise. Also, the NX4 is a mobile, not just a portable, so it's greatest extent for support might be for those who want a mobile setup..
hd6xx
I have both an iFi xDSD and Hidizs DH1000. Both have balanced output, but probably overkill for what I drive portably. Would the NX4 DSD add anything to that lineup (other than $140, of course :-) )?
The Topping NX4 DSD is one of my favourites when it comes to portable DAC+amps. It's small and portable, it is well built and it has enough power to drive most headphones. You can read my review, if you wish, for further thoughts and analysis: https://www.soundphilereview.com/reviews/topping-nx4-dsd-review-1798/
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Yes. I’m using the 6XX with it.
Slater91
I appreciate this review, it answered a lot of questions I had. I was also looking at the iFi Nano iDSD Black which you also happened to review. I'm looking for a mobile Amp because I like to take my Senn 6XX (these are the only difficult to drive headphones I have) onto the back porch sometimes and I feel pretty silly hauling my LCX desktop amp and extension cords back and forth. I'm glad you mentioned possible problems with sensitive IEMs but I don't plan on using this device for those, my FiiO x1 treats them well enough on it's own. I'll pick the NX4 over the iFi device since it's a bit cheaper and seem very comparable.
There's a NX3s drop going right now for $55 and I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to pony up for an NX4 at $150. Do you have any insights for me?
$135.99 right now on AliExpress.
equity
$118 with coupons
LeoNeo
what coupons? Where can I find them? specific to this purchase?
Can someone in the community please assist? I am having a problem using this with a Samsung S9+. Right out of the box they made beautiful music together. On the second day of use, the Neutron app asked if I wanted to enable Hi-Res, and I accepted. That was the last time I heard from the S9 + through the NX4. The problem is not just with Neutron, I also tried Player Pro and HiBy- The NX4 is functional - it works with my LG V20 (I took care not to enable Hi-Res on that phone) and the NX4 installed on my Windows 10 Pro PC without any drivers or other help from me. As part of my troubleshooting, I reversed the Hi-Res settings in the Neutron app, tried switching cables, power cycled the phone several times, all to no avail. I would like to avoid a full reset of the phone - too time consuming and there is no guarantee that it will fix the problem. If anyone has a solution to this one I would appreciate it. As my primary use case for the NX4 was to get the sound quality of the V20 with S9+, I now do not have that much need for it. I have other DAC/Amps. The phone is the unlocked Samsung Model running Oreo 8.0.0. The NX4 is from the latest drop. Thanks.
Jazzguitarfan
In Neutron, try toggling your "Generic Driver" under Setings/Audio Hardware. Or go within that generic driver and look as what is toggled on or off. I have all of mine set to high rez, and am NOT using custom format. I think i killed my sound once by messing with "generic driver" BTW, use the generic driver--it will give you the most options on frequency, etc.
On S9+ look at your sound quality and effects seetings
PorchSong
Thank for this. I found an online solution for the S8 that also worked for my phone under Developer Options - Toggle on "Prevent USB Audio Routing." Not sure why that worked, but it did. Using Poweramp for the moment and getting fine sound from the NX4. I am going to uninstall and reinstall Neutron when I get the chance.
Just a quick little blurb...
But mine arrived and it's a nice unit. It has a good soundstage, does the ESS Sabre thing with good detail and present treble, has a very slight warm tilt from the amp, and has a ton of power on tap. Fiio does a better bass boost, as this one seems to bleed into the mids a bit, but it's not bad at all. It looks really good and is very, very solid. It's the perfect size and shape to attach to a Samsung Galaxy S8/9 for example and really is a nice portable dac/amp as far as design and function goes.
EJK23
I'm thinking of getting the NX4 as my first dac/amp combo, can the NX4 power/drive a AKG 7XX and I can use the NX4 as well in my MSI gaming laptop Thanks for your input
Ernie824
Yeah man, I have a set of red k7xx's and ghe NX4DSD can drive them just fine. I think low gain towards the upper rotation of the volume pot or high gain at about 50% tends to be where I would keep it set to. No worries and give it a go, it's a nice device for sure.
If you are looking for the Lightning to MicroUSB DAC cable to allow the Topping NX4 DSD to work with iPhones, here is that information. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-hifiman-he4xx-planar-magnetic-headphones/talk/2169561
Looking forward to receiving my first Chi-fi product. Was going back and forth between this and the IFI Nano BL . Decided to save the $60 bucks. Hoping that future iterations of this or the Nano BL will include BT connectivity to a smartphone. Any thoughts on a high quality interconnect to the phone? Thanks to all the community members for the helpful comments.
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You will for sure tell the difference between this and wired.
darwin
Do you own an ES100?
Edited a few minutes later. Yo, Darwin. Why don’t you Troll somewhere else. I looked you up and all of your Massdrop comments are either negative or condescending.
Massdrop should have included an iOS cable, even if it was more $. It’s a PITA to find one, and impossible to find L versions.
Darn, just got this delivered from China 4 days ago. I should have waited and saved $20. Oh well. But I get to let those interested know how good this is. My FiiO Q1 Mark2 is no longer being used. It’s in its box and it‘s going to be sold. The Topping NX4 DSD runs circles around it even with it only being single ended. The NX4 has extremely good output, enough to drive my HD650’s and HE4xx’s to ear bleeding levels. For general listening no gain increase is needed, but when you want to Rock just flick the switch and it kicks butt. Supposedly in high gain it starts to have higher distortion levels above 80% volume, but even if that is so at 80% it pushes both headphones to serious levels. Bass boost is nice, not overwhelming at all. I use it about 90% of the time. As for form factor it’s a little thicker than the FiiO Q1 mk2 but length and width wise it sits nicely behind my FiiO X7 Mk2 DAP. the NX4 also works well with my pc Where the Q1 didn’t. So what are you waiting for just pull the trigger.
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Yes, I agree with you, bummer. FiiO really screwed up by not letting steamed music be output through the digital output microUSB port. If I would have known I would have never purchased the X7 Mk2.
hsdrggr
I used my X5 iii for spotify only. Even My flac collection is less than 32 Gb... not to eager for to much
it seems my X5 iii only be pair with my fiio E12a...
This is old stock? Save 20 USD? New model has ES9038Q2M chip . Please correct me if i'm wrong
Nifty8
Don't think so.
All NX4s being sold should have the new chip.
Massdrop might've just overlooked updating the info.
Does anyone know how to contact support for the NX4 DSD? My DAC/AMP was working perfectly for little over a month, but now it fails to connect to any device. I have tried to connect the NX4 DSD to an Android, Windows PC and Macbook with no success.
search
The device still powers on and can be charged, just cannot connect to any input device
Any help would be appreciated, Thanks Edit: I have also tried multiple cables (see response to Martino_xl1978)
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Ados200102
Go to the Topping website and get the email address. They were very responsive to me when I had a lightening to micro USB cable issue with my NX4.
mindhead1
I asked Massdrop because I couldn't find their website originally. I just searched a little harder and found them, Thanks
How does it do with, high sensitivity low impedance devies?
Like wired hd1's or ATH-AD2000X.
THe NX4 DSD did really well in my review and measurements: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-nx4-dsd-dac-and-portable-headphone-amplifier.3507/
It was unexpected to see such clean performance in such a small and portable package. It is a great value at full retail and even better at $139 on massdrop.
amirm
Amir - I have both an iFi xDSD and Hidizs DH1000. Would the NX4 DSD add anything to that lineup (other than $140, of course :-) )?
A while back, I wrote on this discussion that I needed to get more information on the dac, and a bit more. Even without knowing anything about Topping, I joined the drop. My experience is that the NX4 is a very capable device. It may not be exceptional in any particular category, but overall, it is better than I expected. For $139.99, it is certainly "worth it". On top of sound and functionality, it has been unfailingly reliable.
NX4/DSD is really good. I bought it two month ago. I’m very satisfied with this stuff. DAC provides Large stage and Amp is good enough to drive my hd600 and hd6xx. There are two dissatisfaction. hot and build quality. However, considering the price and performance, they are trivial things.
kuuhaku
wow, that was honestly a awful, terribly done clip of moving pictures. I can't even call it a video. Poor guy. I hope he keeps practicing. Off of youtube.
WILLxLOVE
They are actual video clips, just a lot of video stabilization.
Can the DAC portion of the gadget be used alone? Lets say I plan to purchase a bookshelf speaker with another matching amp, can i use it for that?
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Blackautumns
If you plan on leaving this plugged in 24/7 I'd suggest getting a DAC without a battery. Leaving it plugged in continually stresses the battery and will it start having issues in the not too distant future.
Blackautumns
I sometimes(rarely) connect cellphone(usb audio pro)-nx4dsd-old amp-tall speaker. Line out works well and no big issue.
But, if you will use permanent connection, d30 will be better or d50 will be superb.
Fiio Q1 Mark II vs Topping NX4 DSD?
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Very informative I'm getting the AKG 7XX red edition by the end of August and I'm looking to powered them with the NX4 so it might be sometime until the NX4 goes back on active drop again. I might end up getting the NX4 on Amazon
Ernie824
Dropping now
I'm looking for something not to expensive, but portable to power the Audeze LCD-XC's I have coming. Wondering if this will do the trick. Anyone have any idea or experience with these? For home use i have the Schiit Asgard 2, and also a Vali2 so I should be ok on that front. I just need something portable that won't break the bank, like the cans already have.
YaBoyRob
Yes, if you are fine with something that doesn't have a balanced output and for casual music enjoyment, NX4 DSD will do the trick. This can generally drive any headphones on the market. For a general idea, for the 300ohms headphones (HD650) I have, putting the volume knob to halfway on high-gain is already extremely loud and anything more than that would just be damaging to my ears.
kuuhaku
Thank you this will probably do. I'm not to worried about balanced for on the go listening. Thanks for your reply!!
Fantastic DAC/amp for laptops and smartphone. Do take note charging takes about 4 hours. I found that the battery life is around 7.5h to 8h.
In terms of sound I feel that its pretty neutral. Mojo is slightly warmer compared to this. Has great power and specs for its price and size. Can drive 300 ohms easily. It's able to drive 600 ohms but I don't think its suited for that.