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RayF
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Dumb. A cat is not a dog, a spoon is not a fork (no matter how badly you want to sell us either).
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guvnor
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RayFSuch designs have been around and used since long before you were around to critique them
https://patents.google.com/patent/US147119
May 3, 2018
RayF
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guvnorSo have Marriage, Malaria, and Morphine; what’s your point?
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guvnor
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RayFThat your opinion is useless.
May 3, 2018
RayF
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guvnorDon’t recall asking for yours, but since you’ve offered it (useless as it is) it’s the lamest defense of the lamest MD drop I’ve come across in some time. If they were useful, we‘d all have one by now. But you may need another one—I suggest you put it up on the shelf with your collection of Football Bats.
May 3, 2018
guvnor
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RayFHard to discern whether you are talking about this specific product or the concept of sporks; your initial comment would suggest you think the entire concept is dumb, despite the fact that the concept itself has already been proven to be popular, as evidenced by the test of time.
This specific execution on that concept, is obviously flawed and misguided.
May 3, 2018
RayF
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guvnorNo, you are correct—my point was ALL sporks are dumb (meaning: of limmited utility). We live in an age of plenty- everyone can afford a real fork and spoon.
May 3, 2018
guvnor
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RayFThen like I said, your opinion is clearly useless considering it's existed at least since 1874 and will continue to exist.
Sporks are commonly used in any field of work or hobby where a long trek/hike is involved and saving every little bit of weight and space helps. Cost is rarely a factor.
You talk about "lame" and your reasoning to why sporks are dumb is because "We live in an age of plenty- everyone can afford a real fork and spoon"?
And "limited utility"? It literally does the job of two utensils in one.
Maybe you should consider laying off the syringes.
May 3, 2018
RayF
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guvnorOh—oh! “Sorry Sir Edmund Percival Hillary, the sherpas just can’t possibly carry another ounce—you’ll have to choose; will it be your fork, or your spoon? One of them MUST remain here at base camp—we cannot take them both to the summit !!!
May 3, 2018
guvnor
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RayFExactly the typical response from someone who's never done much hiking/trekking. Your depth is really showing through.
May 3, 2018
RayF
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May 4, 2018
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guvnorTrekking across the street is enough to let anyone know a $65 spork is stupid on stilts. This $3 set will let you eat with both hands and hike as far as you want--without looking like an idiot come dinner-time.
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May 4, 2018
guvnor
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RayFI thought we were talking about sporks in general, now you switch to the TOPS example specifically in order to serve a point.
I already agreed the TOPS design is flawed in numerous ways, including the price - when I say price isn't a factor I'm not justifying this specific product's price, but stating that the price is considered after things like weight, space savings, and durability. It's why titanium products are also popular for campers/hikers/climbers etc.
Certainly the plastic utensils you referenced are just fine, aside from it'd only be 2 pieces if it was a spork and 1 piece if you simply used a folder or fixed blade that's normally carried on person anyway. Who actually finds one of those plastic knives to be of any real use? They are only good for spreading warm butter at best.
You also probably won't understand why someone might buy Ti utensils instead of a plastic; cold weather and rough handling, like your pack being thrown/tossed around and sat/slept on, can break a lot of plastic gear inside. Also trying to adjust cooking food over a fire with plastic utensils isn't great.
And I personally would never pay money for plastic utensils because I'd just grab some free ones from a restaurant.
May 4, 2018
RayF
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guvnorYes I bet you would--but the stuff you steal from KFC tends to break when you need them most. Mine last forever.
And sure, you can use your big manly fixed blade Randall ALL PURPOSE FIGHTING KNIFE to slice up your tough-guy dehydrated pork chops (I know I do), but nothing beats that plastic knife of mine for stirring a freshly-made Old Fashioned or spreading a big dollop of Beluga Caviar on a Ritz somewhere above the tree line as I watch the lunar eclipse drift along. You can't do any of that with a spork.
May 4, 2018
guvnor
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RayFI don't see why you couldn't spread caviar with a spork other than a lack of imagination, which you don't appear to lack.
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RayF
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guvnorNot caviar, Beluga--you philistine!
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guvnor
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RayFI personally carry titanium utensils btw; they'd certainly be more fitting for such pretentious occasions than some plastic utensils, which might make you look like an idiot come-dinner time to the gaudy crowd you may be trying to appeal to.
You were also balking at the idea of a $65 spork - I'd say the target demographic would coincide with the market buying overpriced fish eggs very well.
May 4, 2018
RayF
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guvnorSpeaking of fish, you’re starting to remind me of one—who keeps taking the bait.
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guvnor
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RayFKeep off the syringes.
May 4, 2018
Spork13
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RayFHey! I resemble that comment. ;)
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RayF
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guvnorI’m sure there’s a more articulate/coherent way to express the point you’re trying to make here. I can wait until you sober up—no rush.
May 4, 2018
BlueCrowned
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guvnorA beluga is neither a fish, nor an animal that lays eggs.
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guvnor
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BlueCrowned
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guvnorTIL
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RayF
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BlueCrownedYeah--so did @guvnor--you don't think for a minute that Spork-sucking twit knew what that hell I was talking about until he Googled it, do you? And still he missed my point: nobody cares about the fish--it's the eggs (the Caviar that goes for $2k a tin) that I was referring to. Only a Philistine like @guvnor would confuse the container for the product--or use a damn spork to eat it!
May 5, 2018
RayF
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RayF@guvnor Ready to give that better-articulation thing another try (without breaking the Terms of Service and having your reply deleted)?
Or did you want to study them first: https://www.massdrop.com/terms
Or perhaps you'd like to learn more about use and history of the medical syringe? Many Diabetics have strong feelings about syringes (beats dying). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syringe#Standard_U-100_insulin_syringes
Or perhaps you'd like to hook up with some "fast women"? Although frankly, I doubt you could keep up with any of them. https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-marathon/2018/04/16/boston-marathon-2018-winners-list-2
Or maybe you could use a drink? You sure look like you could use one. I'm a Martini man myself--gin of course, always stirred (but never with a spork), and always with both, olives and onions.
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Of course you could just stick to what ever it is you're sucking on in that brown paper bag--each to his own!
May 5, 2018
guvnor
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RayFDid you run out of syringes?
I specifically used the term "overpriced fish eggs" prior.
I only referenced the fish to BlueCrowned due to his comment, to show him that it is in fact a fish that lays eggs.
And I have no shame in admitting that I googled it, any normal person would first think of the whale. Only the most conceited individuals would act haughty because someone didn't know about such needless opulence.
I mean, here you were recommending $3 plastic utensils because a $65 spork was "dumb", then suddenly you're high society getting all excited about caviar.
Seems you're having a hard time making up your mind, just like which women in the street you should creep on with photography as an excuse.
May 5, 2018
guvnor
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guvnorMost diabetics use disposable plastic syringes and don't take glamour shots of them beside their EDC like it's something to be proud of because that's their demented idea of affluence.
May 5, 2018
RayF
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guvnor"Creep on"? Okay, now that we've got your age pegged, I'm more sympathetic to your confusion about whales and caviar--one you swim with, the other you spread on crackers (but never with a spork).
I take it you're neither a fan of my photography or "needless opulence"? Christ, is there any other kind?
You begin to sound like a damn Socialist, and here I thought you were the sort of guy who'd spend $65 on a spork--or at least defend them until your computer ran out of ink (or vocabulary)?
Let's not get lost though--here's the irony: hell yes I'd use a plastic (but not disposable plastic) utensil to spread Caviar on a cracker, as opposed to a $65 spork. Doing the math, a dollar spent on Caviar vs a dollar spent on a sporks, yields a much greater ROI (return on indulgence).
That aside, and getting back to a subject I much prefer "Photography" is a topic I find infinitely more interesting, and I'm always up for discussing! I'm primarily a Landscaper photographer, but you seem more interested in my portraiture and street photography.
In that case. I'd point you to my "Portraits" album:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rayfriedman/albums/72157673818335482
And my "Total Strangers" album:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rayfriedman/albums/72157645413412429
If you have a low threshold for "Creepy" (something I associate with insects and monsters) fear not--some of my best (and most "faved") Flickr work is yours to enjoy.
I assume you have some to show as well?
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RayF
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guvnorYes they do, and mine aren't the least bit disposable (I believe I made my feelings about disposable things obvious above). I'm glad you find my shots glamorous (good to see you're coming around). And let me clear up any misconceptions--I am indeed GOD DAMN PROUD of most of my photographs--especially ANY you can point to that embody anything close to what you'd consider examples of "demented affluence"!
There's a big market for photographs of "demented affluence" and I'm hoping to cash in on the craze ASAP--after all, I've got a Beluga habit to support. BTW: don't try to mainline beluga (with a syringe)--stick to the Ritz crackers--trust me!
May 5, 2018
guvnor
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RayFNo I wouldn't spend $65 on a spork, though I already own a titanium spork.
Attempted glamour doesn't mean glamorous - for example, a glamour shot of a turd doesn't equal being glamorous.
If there was a big market for demented affluence, one certainly wouldn't know it from the number of views on your albums. Seems your artistic vision falls short of rich kids in the Middle East taking selfies.
You're going to need a lot more strangers' ass shots if you want to keep eating fish eggs.
May 5, 2018
RayF
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guvnor I think you're confusing "demented" with "decadence" ? Either way, there's no reason to disparage affluent kids from the Middle East--one cannot help the circumstances one is born to.
PS: I'm not selling "views" to albums, just pointing you to the subject mater you seem to be preoccupied by: women and syringes (although one of those pics has over 10,000 views--but who's counting?)
Stick with the Landscapes--they have a calming effect on people who tend to become preoccupied with rich kids and limited use utensils.
Stare at the puffy white clouds...there, there, feel the calming effect?
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guvnor
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RayFMaybe next time you can try to convince others a lighter is dumb and of limited use because it's not a candle and a match.
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RayF
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guvnorEveryone already knows that.
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