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Mar 11, 2017
Friends, I believe this is the correct style LED.
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Notice the RGB emitters face "down" (relative) toward the PCB. This is the correct orientation to fire "up" through the switch. I've only found them at one company so far. I need to confirm if this is the correct pin-out for these boards but this gives us a good baseline to look for better options.
Manufacturer's site: http://www.brightekeurope.com/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=2039
PDF Spec Sheet: http://www.brightekeurope.com/productcart/pc/catalog/N0M25S71.pdf
These are 3228 PLCC4 package SMD emitters. Manufacturer calls them "top view" -- I was told to look for "reverse" but this seems to fit the bill IF it's the correct pin orientation. It's hard to say without having the PCB in my hands. I'll keep looking.
Props to Xi Kuang @ Massdrop for the lead, and Yanbo for passing it on. <3
Data
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Mar 11, 2017
DataUpdate: These might also work.
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They're the correct orientation, 3228 PLCC4.
Web site: http://www.sunledusa.com/SearchResult.asp?Series=XZxxxxxx45S-9&SubCategoryDescription=Multi-Color%20SMD%20LEDs
Spec Sheet: http://www.sunledusa.com/products/spec/XZMDKCBDDG45S-9.pdf
These might be a little easier to get. I can't find a source for the Brightek.
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Mar 11, 2017
DataSource for the SunLED is Digikey. P/N 1497-1257-1-ND
https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=1497-1257-1-ND
Edit: Don't buy anything yet. I suspect this one doesn't have the correct pinout. 2nd Edit: Scratch that. These are the right part.
Data
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Mar 13, 2017
DataWell I'm still a little fuzzy on how PWM works with a common anode RGB emitter but I'm 85% confident this SunLED will work with these boards. The markings on the PCB are a little confusing. It would be nice if I could get someone to confirm the large trace is the positive leg. Not sure how I'll get that info.
fluxrez
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Mar 14, 2017
DataNice find. Now if only we could buy some...
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Mar 14, 2017
fluxrezYou mean the LEDs? My 3rd post has the link, not sure if I can make it any easier. :)
Buy at your own risk, though. None of this has been validated on a production PCB. It's possible that people who participated in an earlier drop (not me) could get some of these LEDs and try them on their boards. That would be the best confirmation we can get. Short of that, I'm hoping someone from Vortex can tell us if we've got the right part.
fluxrez
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Mar 14, 2017
DataNo. The first led you posted. Not the 2nd. Manufacturers website doesn't sell them. I was an earlier drop. I have this board already.
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Mar 14, 2017
fluxrezAfraid I can't help you there. I checked the recommended list of distributors and none of them seem to carry that part, or simply don't sell to the public. I have to assume it's not available, which led me to the second option. Any reason that one couldn't conceivably work for you? The SunLED part I mean.
MagicSmoke
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Mar 15, 2017
DataNice find! I'm trying the US distributor to see if they have samples available.
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Mar 15, 2017
MagicSmokeCool. Let us know if you're successful. I have an order on the way from DigiKey but I won't have a PCB to test them on until this current drop ships.
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Mar 15, 2017
DataI at least have a contact at the distributor. If I get an hour free at home I'll take apart a Shine 5 and test the pinout.
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Mar 15, 2017
MagicSmokeOK, these things are small. Wow...
Can anyone measure the diameter of the hole in the PCB that was cut/drilled for LEDs? I need a reference.
MagicSmoke
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Mar 20, 2017
DataI finally had a chance to take apart the Shine 5. The LED used with the S5 can not be the same one used in the RGB keyboards with just one PCB. The S5 uses a non-reverse gull wing with its two PCB arrangement. The image attached shows the LED shining up. it is a 3.2 x 2.8 package.
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Data
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Mar 20, 2017
MagicSmokeNice photo. Thanks for checking. Can you tell if the wider trace (I call it the fat one) on the PCB is going to the common anode on the LED? The + under D23A seems to indicate that it is, but it would be swell if you can confirm.
boostdemon
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Mar 29, 2017
DataHas anyone purchased and confirmed these are the solution?
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Mar 29, 2017
boostdemonI have LEDs but no board to put them on (yet). I suspect that the ones I bought are too small, but I have no way to confirm. Mine are the SunLED from Digikey. @MagicSmoke is attempting to source some of the first model I posted. If anyone else is trying they haven't mentioned it.
OfTheWild
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Mar 29, 2017
DataI ordered the ones from ebay... we'll see when they get here. I will post up exact measurements of the LED pads on the board when i get home.
boostdemon
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Mar 29, 2017
OfTheWildHere you go,
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its a 2mm by 6mm on center.
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Mar 29, 2017
boostdemonThanks. Maybe this will work after all. My LEDs are 5.2mm long so they ought to fit.
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Apr 20, 2017
DataReceived my order today and it looks like we're good to go. These LEDs fit... barely. I'll solder one up this weekend and see if they work.
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boostdemon
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Apr 21, 2017
DataThe ones i grabbed off ebay were too small but if you pried open the tabs it fits... unfortunately it didn't light up in any orientation I tried. Did you get those ones from brightekeurope?
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Apr 21, 2017
boostdemonMine are from Digikey. I couldn't locate any of the Brightek product. @MagicSmoke was trying to source them from a US distributor.
MagicSmoke
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Apr 21, 2017
DataI have a few of the Brightek ones and intend to try them out in a few hours now that I have the PCB.
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Apr 23, 2017
DataWell all of my hunches were correct. Here's the final product.
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Full album here: http://imgur.com/a/AnZ1c
If anyone is interested in the full process let me know and I'll make a post in the Talk section.
Jedi
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Apr 23, 2017
DataI think it would be a great idea. If you have the time, please share! Thanks man
ihalatch
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Apr 24, 2017
Datalink to the SMD RGB LEDs please?
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Apr 24, 2017
ihalatchAlready posted it. Scroll up near the top.
boostdemon
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Apr 25, 2017
DataNice. I ordered 25count from digikey. I have a pad to replace/repair on the PCB where my failed attempt lifted it straight off the pcb. oops.
fluxrez
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Apr 25, 2017
DataThanks Data. Order placed. You've made this really easy for us.
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Apr 25, 2017
fluxrezNo problem. Good luck with your build!
fluxrez
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Apr 28, 2017
DataOh Wow Data. these are tiny. Does the darkened corner mark the positive lead?
boostdemon
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Apr 28, 2017
fluxrezI believe that is standard... the dark dot is on the + quadrant. The other 3 should be the - for each color.
fluxrez
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Apr 28, 2017
DataHey thanks DATA, works great. A littler dimmer than I was expected, but still pretty great. I had lots of issues determining what direction they were supposed to go. In the end I just copied you.
*EDIT - nevermind, there is a brightness adjustment =D
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boostdemon
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Apr 28, 2017
fluxrezSo this works with the "dot" at the bottom left position? I still get no light.
fluxrez
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Apr 28, 2017
boostdemonyeah, that worked for me. Match it up with the photos on Data's imgur
boostdemon
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Apr 28, 2017
fluxrezYup, that did the trick. That means the board is printed incorrectly. lol Anyway for anyone else doing this... the notch or dot goes bottom left. Initially only numlock is on... to turn on the LEDs and cycle through the modes you need to hold the top left button (function i guess) and hit 1 to cycle through on, breathe, raindrop, disco modes... and then you can do 2 and 8 which seems like brightness settings... and 3 which does a some forms of splash. Anyways, pretty cool! I really wish the leds were included or at least offered with the PCB we paid extra for though. https://www.instagram.com/p/BTa09GRF8ln/?taken-by=iamofthewild
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Apr 28, 2017
boostdemonYes, the silkscreen is wrong. I covered this in my guide over in the Talk section. :)
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May 11, 2017
DataAppreciate all of the research and info. This is great.
I'm curious why it is necessary to source one's own LEDs, as the kit optionally includes 30 RGB LEDs. Is something wrong with the LEDs available from Massdrop?
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May 12, 2017
emojiHeh, I didn't even realize MD had started a new drop for this. The RGB LEDs weren't an option on previous drops -- there were two prior drops that I'm aware of. So we had to do a bit of leg work. Definitely take advantage of that option if you're the least bit interested as Massdrop is offering the LEDs for a killer add-on price. And good luck with your build!
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May 13, 2017
DataAh okay, I see. Sounds like the research you did has in turn helped Massdrop with future drops. Still trying to decide if I really need another numpad but I'll definitely get the LEDs if I join. Thanks!
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